Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!
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Ok. I got my multi meter out and started checking out my dead silver cana. Low and behold I have a complete circuit with the thing asleep. My center pin is making contact with the 510 somewhere. I am going to try a few quick fixes, like mentioned above, thanks by the way. Ultimately I'm going to replace the 510 connector. I already jumped and ordered a Evolve dna 30 board. I guess I need to find the right connector and shelv my chip. Thanks to all for their input. It was much appreciated.
Hopefully it's just the 510 as I mentioned. Did you try this- clean the 510 REALLY well with a q-tip dipped in rubbing type alcohol and after that a jeweler's screwdriver with a dab of paper towel underneath it- rub around the perimeter of the center conductor?
http://.........blogspot.com/2014/06/lawyers-get-rich-2-hana-modz-sues-2.html
I guess they are going after guys that are not even using the logo version and that never put hana in the name. I guess they can sue vaportek because they are calling it the zana and that is close enough to sue. Any insight on this?
I guess they are going after guys that are not even using the logo version and that never put hana in the name. I guess they can sue vaportek because they are calling it the zana and that is close enough to sue. Any insight on this?
From Vaportek's facebook site. I hope they beat this case!
"Hi guys! This is John the owner of Vapor Te USA. Here are a few announcements that concern all of your orders!
1. Yes! Hana modz has filed a lawsuit against us for trademark issues. We are not concerned with this and the rest of our Zana mods will be shipped to us this week and next week! This includes ALL rounds of orders and all of the colors! We are not giving you the run around as this is the information Cloupor has given to us
2. The KSD Vamo will not be shipped to us until the end of the month. As we always do we will get this product and we will ship to our customers. Yes the ship date is off our original date but we still will be getting them.
3. Tobeco dna 30s have departed China and should be here before the end of the week or the first of next week.
4. Dhl has lost one of our packages for the remainder of our Stillares and all of our 26650 tobh copper and black. We are in the process of fixing this problem and getting the replacement package. We have no control over this and are taking every measure to fulfill these orders that are outstanding.
We don't feel we have violated any trademark with Hana modz and will not with hold the rest of our shipments. We will continue as normal, hire an attorney, and fight this complaint! It seems Hana is filing lawsuits against every major online vendor that sold the Zana, Chana, banana mod!
We have been dealt some crazy blows by usps, dhl, Hana modz, and China manufacturers the past couple weeks but we will press on. This is the nature of the beast in the pre order world! We are 100% in delivering pre orders regardless of the hurdles that we have to jump.
As always if you feel uncomfortable about your purchase you have the right to cancel and we will ask no questions. If you don't mind waiting you can hang is there with us!
We have a store phone number and we have email for us to be contacted.
I hope this clears somethings up for all you guys!
Vape on!
John Boynton"
"Hi guys! This is John the owner of Vapor Te USA. Here are a few announcements that concern all of your orders!
1. Yes! Hana modz has filed a lawsuit against us for trademark issues. We are not concerned with this and the rest of our Zana mods will be shipped to us this week and next week! This includes ALL rounds of orders and all of the colors! We are not giving you the run around as this is the information Cloupor has given to us
2. The KSD Vamo will not be shipped to us until the end of the month. As we always do we will get this product and we will ship to our customers. Yes the ship date is off our original date but we still will be getting them.
3. Tobeco dna 30s have departed China and should be here before the end of the week or the first of next week.
4. Dhl has lost one of our packages for the remainder of our Stillares and all of our 26650 tobh copper and black. We are in the process of fixing this problem and getting the replacement package. We have no control over this and are taking every measure to fulfill these orders that are outstanding.
We don't feel we have violated any trademark with Hana modz and will not with hold the rest of our shipments. We will continue as normal, hire an attorney, and fight this complaint! It seems Hana is filing lawsuits against every major online vendor that sold the Zana, Chana, banana mod!
We have been dealt some crazy blows by usps, dhl, Hana modz, and China manufacturers the past couple weeks but we will press on. This is the nature of the beast in the pre order world! We are 100% in delivering pre orders regardless of the hurdles that we have to jump.
As always if you feel uncomfortable about your purchase you have the right to cancel and we will ask no questions. If you don't mind waiting you can hang is there with us!
We have a store phone number and we have email for us to be contacted.
I hope this clears somethings up for all you guys!
Vape on!
John Boynton"
To be honest I really haven't done alot with it thus far. I have pulled the red cover, just to see if anything looked finky. Then I went over it with my multi meter tonight. I guess I haven't been in a real hurry, cuz I have and use other mods including another cana. I will definately get at it tomorrow evening.
I have something to add here even though I may have been posted before. I was having to turn out the adjustable 510 screw out quite a bit farther than I felt should be necessary for one of my Taifun GT clones (FT type B) for it to fire. It turned out the base of the TGT wasn't going the whole way into the drip well of the Cana although it felt just as it would when it bottoms out on the 510's crown.
Being just how popular these atties are maybe others are running up against this too. The base is just a fuzz too fat to go all the way down.
Being just how popular these atties are maybe others are running up against this too. The base is just a fuzz too fat to go all the way down.
A little unsolicited advice for Vaportek -- rather than posting your statement on a public forum, predicting the outcome, and then promising to hire an attorney -- consider re-ordering your actions.
I still have a blue clone on order from them as well as the KSD 30 watt "Vamo on Steroids". The blue clone order is about 7 weeks old. They claim DSL lost the order or it would have been shipped last Monday. I'm canceling the blue, I have a red I got two weeks ago. I've been patient.
I received my clone today and I am not impressed with the numbers I am getting from it. The mod is actually really nice looking, black unit from wet vapes. Charge board dimms to red when fully charged and sits at 4.18v as well but not too concerned about this. My issue is that this is being marketed as a 30 watt chip and that is just not true.....with mine at least. Ohm reader is correct which is nice, voltage read out under load on display is correct, voltage measured with my fluke 87 true rms meter tells me its hitting at 25 watts with a 30 watt setting. Tested .8 ohm build at 30 watts and measured 4.45 volts on the meter which is 24.75 watts, dna screen reads its putting out 5v (31watts). Measured 1.4 ohm build at 30 watts is measuring 6v, 25.71 watts on the fluke and the dna screen shows 6.6v (31watts). I have built/used a number of dna30 devices and this hits no where near as good as the authentic, I noticed it right away. On the lower end around 20 watts its out by 2 so I have to bump up to around 22 watts. Don't get me wrong though, for most this chip will totally suffice, if you have the real deal and are hoping for the same vape look elsewhere cause it aint happening here. I am pulling the chip and replacing with an evolv chip, I actually have a some fat daddy 22mm floating 510 just waiting for upcoming projects but I might rob one for this. I think it may need to be threaded with a tap though cause I dont think your going to get the nut on it with all the material on there and it def has to be drilled out which also would be the easiest way to remove the 510 connector too. Might be able to put an old carto or something and use that to try and pull it out in a vice as an alternative.
Yeah, I find it surprising how non-chalant their attitude appears to be. They advertise the clones as follows:
"Zana Modz Clone DNA 30 Chip "No Logo" BLACK ONLY!!"
They apparently do not fully understand how trademark law works. The above text actually admits that this is a clone with no logo of a "Zana Modz" (which technically does not exist). However, the name is close enough and the product looks close enough. That's really enough to be found guilty of infringement.
Appendix: Here's an example of what I mean:
Starbucks v. Starbarks: Trademark Infringement by Doggie Day Care? | The Law
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I wholeheartedly agree with your interpretation. Their post clearly shows they don't know what they're talking about. Hire a lawyer, and I bet that post disappears within 4 hours!
Well this legal talk has me a bit confused. Hana has a trademark, which means that they have protection of appearance. But appearance of what? Now it can't be of a box mod, those have been around long before theirs. It can't be the big H and the word Hana on the mod because the clone doesn't have either.
Is it just the name Hana, and saying Chana, Zana, etc is close enough to Hana?
Basically I guess I'm asking what exactly is the lawsuit alleging happened?
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Is it just the name Hana, and saying Chana, Zana, etc is close enough to Hana?
Basically I guess I'm asking what exactly is the lawsuit alleging happened?
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I'm sure someone less lazy than I am, and who actually cares, has already researched Hana's trademark (yes?).
I'd be interested if so, but not nearly enough to do it myself. Hey, I'm honest...
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I'm in complete agreement with what Hana is doing. They're completely in the right attacking those selling the clones with lawsuits.
I'm also completely disgusted with both how Hana handled their rollout of the v3 and their vendors(the ssVapes presale I was in still irks me), and that they let such obviously subpar mods get out of their building and into the hands of customers. I guess I've been spoiled by the quality devices and quality service I've received from Perseas and GP Paps.
If only they'd put all this money for lawyers and defending their trademark into their facilities building the mods, or spent it on more employees to ramp up production to meet demand, or into a QC department that could ensure the defective units never got into customers hands(they should hire away the Provari QC guy from Phil's video, no wonder every Provari I've ever seen arrives flawless, that guy is dedicated), or to hire a consultant to help them streamline their business from the ground up to be more efficient and manufacture the product at a lower cost so that they could lower their price.
Even though they're completely right with these lawsuits. I'm done with Hana. For the first time since I first began getting into mechs and didn't know any better, I'm happy to own a clone. I can't believe I just said that, or that I actually don't feel bad owning and thoroughly enjoying a clone. I'll buy a several more regulated mods to compliment my army of GP mechs and Provaris, and not one of them will be a Hana Modz.
I'm also completely disgusted with both how Hana handled their rollout of the v3 and their vendors(the ssVapes presale I was in still irks me), and that they let such obviously subpar mods get out of their building and into the hands of customers. I guess I've been spoiled by the quality devices and quality service I've received from Perseas and GP Paps.
If only they'd put all this money for lawyers and defending their trademark into their facilities building the mods, or spent it on more employees to ramp up production to meet demand, or into a QC department that could ensure the defective units never got into customers hands(they should hire away the Provari QC guy from Phil's video, no wonder every Provari I've ever seen arrives flawless, that guy is dedicated), or to hire a consultant to help them streamline their business from the ground up to be more efficient and manufacture the product at a lower cost so that they could lower their price.
Even though they're completely right with these lawsuits. I'm done with Hana. For the first time since I first began getting into mechs and didn't know any better, I'm happy to own a clone. I can't believe I just said that, or that I actually don't feel bad owning and thoroughly enjoying a clone. I'll buy a several more regulated mods to compliment my army of GP mechs and Provaris, and not one of them will be a Hana Modz.
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Mid April when I was looking for authentic Hanna Modz I came across 16 sites that offered a Hanna Modz clone which used Hanna Modz photos to promote their sales, some stated final product would not comes with a logo. But they all still used Hanna Modz photos and trademarks to market their goods.
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