Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[herb]

I already told them if they can lie once they will do it again. I'm gutting mine for a better chip. lol Im done with cloupor products. Almost want to have the paint on the mod checked for lead. If China can do it to toys then why not e cigs. Guess im just ....... Had to vent.

Wait and let it fail on it's own if it's going to fail , many of us are curious to see how these work out in the long run. Install the real chip if the Clouper breaks down in the future , at least you will be ready and no sense crippling it at this point if it's working.

I would also send it back if you get one thats having issues from the start.

 

[armadillo]

The chip won't make this happen. A broken button would though.

Does it matter? Spontaneous firing is just that... a pretty significant risk IMHO. If people prefer to downplay this, that's fine. We all have choices of acceptable risks.

 

[DFireOnly]

Wait and let it fail on it's own if it's going to fail , many of us are curious to see how these work out in the long run. Install the real chip if the Clouper breaks down in the future , at least you will be ready and no sense crippling it at this point if it's working.

I would also send it back if you get one thats having issues from the start.

The factory told me this is normal. lol It dosnt fully charge and the light on the charge light never turns green. So we will see how long the rest of it last.

So far the charge board is failing but this is normal per the factory lol.

 

[retird]

LOL, the unit probably felt the hating you have been doing towards it since day 1 in here and self desctructed. I had thought you would have replaced it by now. l.

LOL.... you are mistaken about the "hating".... I've only researched, tested, and informed all of my results and my opinion.... I care for fellow vapers and when there are safety concerns I will speak up... I asked several times for anybody to dispute my findings and I would stand corrected.... none disputed .....

It is what it is......thats all.....

 

[alee132]

LOL.... you are mistaken about the "hating".... I've only researched, tested, and informed all of my results and my opinion.... I care for fellow vapers and when there are safety concerns I will speak up... I asked several times for anybody to dispute my findings and I would stand corrected.... none disputed .....

It is what it is......thats all.....

I'm shocked you didn't sick the guard dog on me for even talking to you. You amaze me with your ninja like ways.

 

[entoptic]

June 19, 2014 , 9:55 am
Out for Delivery
BATTLE GROUND, WA 98604
ORDER #2410
Order Date: 19th May 2014
silver
elev8

woohoo!!!
vtc4 s charging!
time mega-slow

 

[entoptic]

I'm nobody, but if it's not too much to ask, can people refer to the vendor they bought from when comparing units(pun intended)?

 

[BlueSnake]

The chip won't make this happen. A broken button would though.

So you're saying the clone is sitting, not being used, mysteriously starts firing and it would be a broken button? The button would break when it's just sitting not be used?

 

[synaptik]

So you're saying the clone is sitting, not being used, mysteriously starts firing and it would be a broken button? The button would break when it's just sitting not be used?

Cloupors answer to that was that wireless signals would interfere with the device so you know dont have a cellphone or anything else in the room with you when you use it *facepalm*

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Cloupors answer to that was that wireless signals would interfere with the device so you know dont have a cellphone or anything else in the room with you when you use it *facepalm*

It's the NSA


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[synaptik]

It's the NSA


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Must be that RFID chip they put in my fillings

 

[munsterrr]

Welp ladies and gents. Have to add my name to the list of failed cana/chana/takeyourpick mods.

Orange
Eciggity
Recieved on the 11th VCT5
1.2ohm single micro coil
~9-10 watts

Was at the bar last Friday and noticed that the screen wasn't turning on when hitting the fire button. It had been working beautifully before this. Stepped outside to listen and noticed it was firing. Went through the steps to see if stealth mode was on and noticed that nothing was showing regardless of button presses. Decided to take a hit and noticed it tasted burned beyond belief. Took the battery out for an hour(thank god for backups when drinking) and tried it again. I am running a clear kayfun(m-tank with clear chimney) and after holding the button for 2 seconds I watched the coil glow brighter than ever then "pop"... coil was toast(again, thank god for backups). Left her alone till I got home and built another coil and same thing....Coil popped instantly.

Eciggity's customer service was spot on though. Wrote them an email explaining what I just wrote and within 5 minutes, they wrote back saying another was on the way with a return label. Being that they are in Hawaii and i'm in D.C. I should have it today or tomorrow.

...... that I have to buy a new wrap though. This time, i'll just wait till after their 30 day return policy runs out to pick up another skin.

 

[Iceclouds]

I'm shocked you didn't sick the guard dog on me for even talking to you. You amaze me with your ninja like ways.

I'm surprised he (Retird) is even here, he said several days ago Goodbye to the Thread that he was moving on....Oh my bad, he found another negative thing to post about this box, that's why he landed back in here.....Is funny there are several members that disappear for days/weeks and as soon as something negative is posted, they come out of the Woodworks....hummmmmm Oh well "It is, what it is"

 

[tepicky]

I sent elev8 an email about this

http://youtu.be/YfKY6y6WH-s

 

[Completely Average]

So you're saying the clone is sitting, not being used, mysteriously starts firing and it would be a broken button? The button would break when it's just sitting not be used?

As opposed to you saying the chip is going to suddenly decide to wake itself up out of sleep mode with absolutely no input, and then begin to fire the mod, again with absolutely no input?


From an electrical engineering point of view it's called a short. And to answer your question, yes, short can "just happen" all the sudden with no outside intervention. How do you think houses have electrical fires after people have lived in them for years? Without getting into the entire mechanics of how one of these buttons is put together, the actual contact is about as thick as foil, and if it was deformed and then some atmospheric event like cooling during the night made it contract and made the connection.... there you have it, it fired all by itself.

It's not rocket science.


Now, how about you explain to me how a microprocessor can suddenly decide to wake up out of sleep mode and fire a mod all by itself with no inputs made. I am a systems administrator with more than 20 years experience with computers and am very familiar with this stuff, so don't worry about your explanation going over my head. I understood the engineers at Raytheon, I'm sure I'll understand you.

 

[munsterrr]

I'm surprised he (Retird) is even here, he said several days ago Goodbye to the Thread that he was moving on....Oh my bad, he found another negative thing to post about this box, that's why he landed back in here.....Is funny there are several members that disappear for days/weeks and as soon as something negative is posted, they come out of the Woodworks....hummmmmm Oh well "It is, what it is"

It's not really that outrageous. "Lets wait together". The waiting for some is done so they no longer need to wait. Nothing wrong with coming back to report on things to give the "waiters" a good heads up on potential issues they face.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

As opposed to you saying the chip is going to suddenly decide to wake itself up out of sleep mode with absolutely no input, and then begin to fire the mod, again with absolutely no input?


From an electrical engineering point of view it's called a short. And to answer your question, yes, short can "just happen" all the sudden with no outside intervention. How do you think houses have electrical fires after people have lived in them for years? Without getting into the entire mechanics of how one of these buttons is put together, the actual contact is about as thick as foil, and if it was deformed and then some atmospheric event like cooling during the night made it contract and made the connection.... there you have it, it fired all by itself.

It's not rocket science.


Now, how about you explain to me how a microprocessor can suddenly decide to wake up out of sleep mode and fire a mod all by itself with no inputs made. I am a systems administrator with more than 20 years experience with computers and am very familiar with this stuff, so don't worry about your explanation going over my head. I understood the engineers at Raytheon, I'm sure I'll understand you.

Thank you


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[Completely Average]

Thank you

Here's my problem with the "It's the chip" theory....

First, it's not an actual failure of the chip. The chip works fine. It's firing the mod so it hasn't failed. It would have to be a software glitch rather than a hardware failure of the chip.

Fine, I work with software glitches all of the time. However, this isn't a single glitch, it requires a minimum of two separate glitches, one happening right after the other in the right order.

Your first glitch would be the chip waking itself up out of sleep mode without any input. The programing on this would be a simple open/closed reading of the circuit from the fire button. If it's open, the chip sleeps, if it closes the chip wakes up. But this glitch would require the chip to wake up despite never getting that closed reading from the circuit.

Then it has to glitch again, this time firing the mod non-stop. This is an entirely different glitch from the first because the chip cannot fire if it is asleep. It has to wake up, read the atomizer and battery, and then fire, again, with the circuit to the fire button being open and no current flowing through it. That would require the chip be physically wired to bypass the fire button. It can't pass voltage from the battery to the atomizer with no current going through the firing button unless the firing button is on an entirely separate circuit and the chip is handling voltage transmission between the two separate circuits.

But, again, this would have to be a software failure, so we are looking at the software making two changes to two different circuits, neither powered, and without any input.

And it would have to only happen to one mod, despite ALL of these mods using the same chips and the same software.



Or it could just be a collapsed contact inside a button.

 

[armadillo]

Well, as I understand it, the chip actually never really "sleeps" (whatever that means). Peeps have reported that their mods drain some 20% over night without any use. So the chip is in some kind of standby mode. This worries me quite a bit, as that could at some point lead to some spontaneous activity (peeps have reported the screen turning on spontaneously) and now apparently firing spontaneously. It is really immaterial whether the chip is at fault or some thermal expansion/contraction causing a physical short. If I had to go to bed with the mod sitting there and doing something makes me quite uneasy. This is important info for both existing and potential users.

 

[BlueSnake]

Well I'm not an electrical engineer, I just figured with all the glue and crappy way these things are put together that something my have shorted out and caused them to fire. If the buttons are that flimsy then these clones are just not safe to use period.

I defer to your expertise.