Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

Status
Not open for further replies.

MrPlink

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Mar 7, 2014
1,512
990
Portland, OR / San Francisco CA
I'd like to point a few things out I've learned from over 15 years on all sides of the specialty retail sales and manufacturing industries and it's love affair with china. A lot of people seem to have some misconceptions here. I'll keep it basic, they are variations. Sometimes the process involves more wheeling and dealing.

Players involved:

Retailers, like Elev8 or the shop down the street.

A middleman, like Clouper. They'll select factories, distibute, and help market. They may have another layer of distubuters depending on the country.

Small service electronic assembly factorys. Take your pick, there're 1000's and the competition is fierce. For something like this they'll go to the quantity over quality factories. This means many many different ladies working their fingers to the bone assembling and soldering. soldering and assembling 9-12 hrs a day, 4-6 days a week. This is were things get risky as no one device is 100% exactly the same. The production value goes down as speed is a key and all they'll test is seeing if the devices fire and measures about a 1.9 coil for half a second. Then it's put in a bubble sleeve and tossed in a large box with a few dozen others or more. Clouper provides the indivbidual packaging from another contracted facility.

Most of us get lucky but enough won't to keep a stink going. Higher end retailers, especially B&M's will test theirs oob further and offer some warranties but probably not for free beyond the mnfr limited warranty. Pump and dump retailers like we find on the internet probably aren't taking the time to test everything. Or anything. That's cool. You get what you pay for. Caveat Emptor. I'm happy taking the risk. If you aren't, please just drop it and move along.:D

It took you 15 years to understand how mass production and distribution works? :p
 

MrBeo

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 18, 2012
798
742
Deserts of So California
All good points and for the most part that is over all true and a Positive way to look at things. However to say "please just drop it and move along" at the end is strange? This thread is for Discussion of this device while we wait to get her in our hands so if we stop talking about the negatives that could affect us and our device that we paid for then we may as well just close this thread and stop talking about it at all.
As a customer we want all the info we can on this device and its safety - At least I do. I don't want to turn a blind eye that this may be a problem Device "I" want to be warned of issues along with the good stuff (Don't you?) As a customer I have a right to talk about issues that are out there and inform others and hope they also inform me!
Now if I was a seller, Manufacture or Dealer I would ONLY want to talk about its Positives, but as a PAID customer I want to be fully informed...The good the Bad and the ugly!!!

I'd like to point a few things out I've learned from over 15 years on all sides of the specialty retail sales and manufacturing industries and it's love affair with china. A lot of people seem to have some misconceptions here. I'll keep it basic, they are variations. Sometimes the process involves more wheeling and dealing.

Players involved:

Retailers, like Elev8 or the shop down the street.

A middleman, like Clouper. They'll select factories, distibute, and help market. They may have another layer of distubuters depending on the country.

Small service electronic assembly factorys. Take your pick, there're 1000's and the competition is fierce. For something like this they'll go to the quantity over quality factories. This means many many different ladies working their fingers to the bone assembling and soldering. soldering and assembling 9-12 hrs a day, 4-6 days a week. This is were things get risky as no one device is 100% exactly the same. The production value goes down as speed is a key and all they'll test is seeing if the devices fire and measures about a 1.9 coil for half a second. Then it's put in a bubble sleeve and tossed in a large box with a few dozen others or more. Clouper provides the indivbidual packaging from another contracted facility.

Most of us get lucky but enough won't to keep a stink going. Higher end retailers, especially B&M's will test theirs oob further and offer some warranties but probably not for free beyond the mnfr limited warranty. Pump and dump retailers like we find on the internet probably aren't taking the time to test everything. Or anything. That's cool. You get what you pay for. Caveat Emptor. I'm happy taking the risk. If you aren't, please just drop it and move along.:D
 

Fergie

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 2, 2013
965
808
Toronto, Canada,
Sounds like the HufflePuffVapes guy is a seller and that's his sample. I asked if they were from Cloupor and got my comment deleted.
It's all a huge mystery LOL

His comment as follows:
"This clone needs a few pretty major changes! I am not the only person who has had problems. The fire button fell inside mine and then started on fire and it looks like at least one other person had a similar issue! Price is yet to be determined. I want to be 100% sure they will be a safe, good quality product before I sell one!"

Not sure what his definition of fire is.
 
Last edited:

retird

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 31, 2010
5,133
5,862
North Side
OK but there's a few people in this thread who are hear just to stir the pot.
It looks like a cloupor unit, idk for sure though. Regardless he abused the sample, he had every intention on damaging it.

hum... haven't noticed anybody "stirring the pot"...... lots of good folks pointing out the pro's and con's as they see it... that's a healthy conversation to me.... and also those offering suggestions...... that's what got the suppliers and manufacturers to delay the shipping so they can address a few things.... or that is my take on it anyway.... :)
 

MrBeo

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 18, 2012
798
742
Deserts of So California
Look, We all want this Device to work and granted "Stuff Happens" But only a hand full of sample were shipped and all had issues and now several out of a hand full had buttons Fail and to the point it shorted and fried the Chip!!! It was being used as it was made to be used and NOT abused - That to me is a bad record. Those are just facts and things us buying customers need to know.

I question anyone who is a customer and buying this Clone why He or she would Defend this product after Facts with pictures are release and blame the user (Who has a lot of money/investment to lose and is a Retailer) that they abused the product and then shared there experience publicly. There the ones who lose we only wait longer for a factory Fix to the issue with the button.
They have the Device - not us yet so unless you have one to defend with facts like the seller do show us facts as to why you defend this as the users fault! Again I want this to work and not brake on me NOW, TOMORROW and a year from now = I want yours to work good also cause if we are paying for crap then lets buy the stuff to build our own and for the same price!!! Right?

I pray everyone gets a working Device you can enjoy and I pray this is fixed before we get them and I am glad the ISSUE was found now and not after we got them....
Thanks to everyone who have let us know what needs done BEFORE we get them. Enough said...
 

twistedchild316

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 27, 2013
489
1,464
41
East Texas
www.youtube.com
  • Deleted by lamarrk
  • Reason: Inappropriate language.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread