Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[retird]

hum... overnite posts sure have been animated..... I always do alot of research on my own before jumping on the band-wagon and don't depend on rumors or posts by others....I too am out now as more information has come to my attention that I'm not at liberty to discuss. So, now I can just set back and read all the good folks posts here..... I wish you all well......

 

[Illuminatu]

All you people that have "information you can't discuss" make me laugh, Either say something or don;t say anything at all, otherwise the only thing i see is people stirring the pot.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

In the Elev8vape video they put a nautilus with a 1.7ohm coil. It read it as 1.5ohms but had no trouble firing it at 30 watts. So at least elev8 did try it on higher ohm coil. This is what had me concerned that the units didn't read ohms correctly no matter what ohm coil you put on it. At least elev8 mentioned that units have trouble reading ohms... I don't think anyone else mentioned it at first. hopefully Clapour will truly address the accurate ohm reading and short circuit protection before sending them out.

I hope that he put it on a Ω meter rather than simply relying on whatever is printed on the head itself. Theya re all nototiously wrong by up to .2Ω. I've seen discrepancies even larger too.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

If you're interested in using standard atomizers and pre-built coils then a dna30 type of device is not for you. I'd be looking at a provari.

Number one, you're wrong. Number two, I'm not looking to use pre-built coils. I build everything I use these days. Kayfuns ranging from 1.2Ω-1.7Ω and a host of drippers ranging from .4Ω-1.2Ω. But there are surely people who will want to know whatever information can be gleaned from a review who don't.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Now here is some pertinent information.
Good in one way, questionable in others.

So 7v at 1.6ohm gets us to the 30w ballpark.
Sounds good to me.

But how can we say it is reading correctly just not DISPLAYING correctly when it was reading .26 (or whatever it was) as .6 and firing anyways?
No short safety and displaying incorrectly?
Still bad news.
Maybe it just cant read subohms well?
Well that isnt any better either.

VW turns on the devices ability to read impedance with reasonable accuracy.

Cloupor probably should have just saved themselves the headache and made a VV only lookalike.

The real hana or any evolv dna30, will fire under the 4v in the specs but at that point it dumps the battery and is unregulated. Which is exactly what it's doing at .3ohms. At .6 it would regulate at 4.2v.I assume there is going to be a slight drop in voltage reading with the meter. At 7.15v at 30watts would mean it's a 1.7ohm coil, which is what it read at on the meter. Now as far as short protection I don't know any more than you. In any event time will tell
Also watch the PBursardo review on the DnA 30 for what it's supposed to do he explains it better than my ramblings

EDIT: IMHO a reading off by .03v is very acceptable regulation. And am not concerned with its ability to regulate

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Well if they really have fixed the ohm reading part that was off slightly. And make it able to read under .6 and it actually does regulate like the above email that was sent then I will be happy. Even if it doesn't I will just put a real dna in it. Either way the $70 was worth it to me. Maybe it won't be to everyone. But you can find dna's cheaper then it cost me for a sx350 chip. But that's another thing all together. I am putting together a box mod soon from it. Still picking out alot of my parts. Have the chip and a few other things already on the way. Found the chip for $62 from eccigity, everywhere else had it for $75 or more. I wish they wouldn't have pre wired it up at all imo. But looks like I will have to work with it as they came that way everywhere else I looked as well.

The SX350, by all accounts, blows the DNA30 out of the water. Bypass mode, true step-down circuitry, .2Ω, upgradeable via USB, etc. On top of that, they made it very easy to build around this chip because all of the wires are already soldered to the board (though I do wish they would have just soldered the switch wires to the board rather than the switch wires and a switch that I don't want.

I have one on order, and can't wait. It just might be a better product than this Hana clone.

In fact, Cloupor may have done better to make a box that was inspired by the Hana clone and simply installed the SX350 in them rather than attempting to make a DNA30 clone.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

All you people that have "information you can't discuss" make me laugh, Either say something or don;t say anything at all, otherwise the only thing i see is people stirring the pot.

Believe me! I'm an expert, though I can't tell you how or why!

 

[Fergie]

Believe me! I'm an expert, though I can't tell you how or why!

Not even a hint about what's going on?

 

[mxrdrver]

At first i was bummed i didnt get in on the 1st round Logo versions. Now im glad i ordered the 3rd round no logo versions. All the problems should be worked out by the time i get mine.


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[Muggs]

At first i was bummed i didnt get in on the 1st round Logo versions. Now im glad i ordered the 3rd round no logo versions. All the problems should be worked out by the time i get mine.


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Just a heads up it doesn't work like that. They aren't shipping any until the bug or 2 is worked out. They only shipped a few test samples for R&D. So regardless what round we ordered in it won't matter. It will be the same updated mod for everyone.

 

[Fergie]

Just a heads up it doesn't work like that. They aren't shipping any until the bug or 2 is worked out. They only shipped a few test samples for R&D. So regardless what round we ordered in it won't matter. It will be the same updated mod for everyone.

Bingo

 

[CurlyxCracker]

The SX350, by all accounts, blows the DNA30 out of the water. Bypass mode, true step-down circuitry, .2Ω, upgradeable via USB, etc. On top of that, they made it very easy to build around this chip because all of the wires are already soldered to the board (though I do wish they would have just soldered the switch wires to the board rather than the switch wires and a switch that I don't want.

I have one on order, and can't wait. It just might be a better product than this Hana clone.

In fact, Cloupor may have done better to make a box that was inspired by the Hana clone and simply installed the SX350 in them rather than attempting to make a DNA30 clone.

I agree I wanted the sx350 way more than the dna30 then I seen this at this price point

 

[Sptz]

I've been thinking of buying an sx350 and putting it into this box, the problem is that I'm a mega noob when it comes to soldering and what to do in general lol and the sx350 is gyroscope only or can you actually assign buttons for the + and - values?

 

[QuikWgn]

I have yet to see a SX350 mod that doesn't use the SX family's 'tilt adjust' method. if there is one could someone link me to it?

Secondly the DNA30 makes it incredibly easy to see if it is dumping voltage outside the supported range. For instance I have a .4 ohm dual coil build in my TOBH. at any wattage setting below 27 watts the ohm reading will flash. Once it hits 27 watts the ohm display is solid.

At .4 ohm @ 27w = 8.21A (I = Square Root of (P / R)) & .4 ohm & 8.21A = 3.28v (E = I x R)

 

[graffiti]

WHo pays for a product and doesn't test them.....I mean they must have tested them right? But within 5 minutes of testing them with an oscillator they would have known the chips were faulty....so I really still don't understand what all this sending them to the retailers to be tested was all about.

You're over-thinking it.

Try this on for size. Clouper ordered the chips and tested them on an oscilloscope. They realized that the chips were faulty. They also realized that there were an buttload of pre-orders.

So they make up a few models as test models to ship to the US and immediately go back to the chip manufacturer and say "Your product is defective, get your ... in gear to make them right."

Meanwhile, they've bought themselves (and more importantly the chip manufacturer) a couple weeks to get the problems fixed and the units manufactured.

Chances are that the chips aren't reprogrammable. That means they're going to have to be remade. This takes time. Clouper just bought a bunch of it by sending test units to vendors.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

I have yet to see a SX350 mod that doesn't use the SX family's 'tilt adjust' method. if there is one could someone link me to it?

Secondly the DNA30 makes it incredibly easy to see if it is dumping voltage outside the supported range. For instance I have a .4 ohm dual coil build in my TOBH. at any wattage setting below 27 watts the ohm reading will flash. Once it hits 27 watts the ohm display is solid.

At .4 ohm @ 27w = 8.21A (I = Square Root of (P / R)) & .4 ohm & 8.21A = 3.28v (E = I x R)

I'm not sure the clone does flash like the original...

 

[Fergie]

This thread gets better all the time.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

I'm pretty sure the Keebler Elves are making the chips, economy is rough can't make ends meet on cookies alone.

 

[truskme]

You're over-thinking it.

Try this on for size. Clouper ordered the chips and tested them on an oscilloscope. They realized that the chips were faulty. They also realized that there were an buttload of pre-orders.

So they make up a few models as test models to ship to the US and immediately go back to the chip manufacturer and say "Your product is defective, get your ... in gear to make them right."

Meanwhile, they've bought themselves (and more importantly the chip manufacturer) a couple weeks to get the problems fixed and the units manufactured.

Chances are that the chips aren't reprogrammable. That means they're going to have to be remade. This takes time. Clouper just bought a bunch of it by sending test units to vendors.

yes obviously this whole charade was about buying time, the last minute idea to send out samples, the mass email sent to vendors promising them first in line because of quantity ordered, the pictures of people "manufacturing" the units to prevent questions. it all goes down the chain, the chip manufacturer sold them faulty chips so clouper had to lie to the vendors to keep them from panicking, then in turn the vendors had to lie to their customers to keep us from panicking. the vendors weren't fooled and the customers weren't fooled, we knew what was going on once we got the samples in to test, hell maybe some figured it out when they announced the sample idea. either way, we all just smiled and nodded our heads cause in the end all we really care about is getting a well made product.

 

[armadillo]

Weather forecast says a ....storm is coming. They just don't know when it will arrive.