Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[mykereid]

Good grief. I've never seen anyone talk in circles and constantly contradict himself in just 15 minutes more than Rip.

I just got my bank to refund the payment! No word from illvapes so had no choice!

RIP PREDICTED THIS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdO-oHr8Q7E#t=271

 

[mykereid]

Hmm, if you click the color selector, clear is an option in my browser. Sorry.

I looked there first thing, I only see white there...

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[entoptic]

**UPDATE 5/23/14 @ 1:12AM EST: Good evening/morning everyone! It has been a crazy week for you customers and us. Currently we have been shipping out units since Tuesday after noon. Each shipment we receive from cloupor has random amounts of clones in them. These shipments are usually around 200-300 units each. Colors are at random, so if you have an orange and your number is 353 and the person ahead of you has black and has their order fulfilled, it is not because we hate you or have skipped you, it is because that color is in stock. Also, we have been bombarded with phone calls and emails, WE LOVE THIS! If we do not reply to your phone call or email, please continue to spam us with emails so that we can see them. Sometimes an email is sent to us, followed by 100 more and it ends up being moved so far down that we may miss it at times. WE DO NOT IGNORE ANYONE.

Now, onto the issue regarding colors. It is true that the box supplier is having a hard time replicating orange, green and blue. Now here is our suggestion on the issue. IF YOU LOVE THE COLOR YOU PURCHASED, DO NOT CHANGE IT FOR BLACK. Only reason we say this is because these clones are honestly worth the wait. We are glad to change your order to a black clone or silver, but honestly don't do it if you love the colored ones. We were fortunate enough to have every color in our hands. The colors are beautiful and it is truthfully worth the wait. ALL THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN FIXED, SO THIS CLONE REALLY IS WORTH THE WAIT! Now, if you are going on vacation and really urgently need a clone in your hand by a given time, you can change it to black. This is only for people who really don't care about the color and just want the clone. Send us an email with your order number and info regarding the color change. We will happily change it for you.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUED, just in case anyone is wondering. All orders will be fulfilled regardless of color, just remember that there is a wait for everything. Many people have jumped onto this pre sale and many more continue to jump on it. Thank you all for the great support you've given us. We seriously love you all and will continue to work hard so that we can fulfill everyone's order. THANK YOU ALL!

 

[mykereid]

I could never understand why someone was willing to pay extra for the logo version, unless of course, they had plans to sell it as an authentic version later. If I buy something to enjoy in the comfort of my home, why would I care whether it had the logo, or not?

It is if you try to resell it.

If you buy a knockoff that was part of a trademark infringement lawsuit, or you resell it using trademark references, names, whatever....then the same can happen to you.

Let's be real, the peeps that were buying trademarked boxes had high-hopes for making a fortune on them and buyers thinking that it would be a good investment in case they ever wanted to resell it.

How much do ya think that you'd get from advertising a used China30 for sale?

ZERO.

 

[mykereid]

I guess it's just me, but I would never pay $60 for a used version of something I can get new for $70. Something about knowing everything about a product, and not just what the previous owner chooses to tell me --like maybe how many times they dropped it in the toilet -- , is worth $10.

I think you would get 60-70 for one used in good condition. I personally have no interest in selling the one I get, if the board dies I'll stick a real dna 30 in it. But I think you underestimate the resale on vape gear.

 

[entoptic]

oh, btw, just copied and pasted that from elevate update page. I have no affiliation with the company.

 

[retird]

Has it occurred to anybody yet that it's not just Hana's trademark that they can use to sue vendors.

It's their brand name, their company name, their images and anything else the a vendor used to sell or make a comparison reference to an illegal counterfeit....especially the "1:1 clone" reference. There's no such thing as a 1:1 clone...that a direct reference to an illegal replica!

I've only seen a couple of actual "counterfeit" box images being shown on the net and the primary one is from Cloupor. The rest are photo-shopped images of the real Hana modz!

Any reference...whatsoever....using "Hana Mod/Hana Mods/Hana Anything" in their advertising is a trademark infringement.

Now just imagine what Evolv is gonna do, cuz I guarantee that every single one of these vendors....logo or no-logo has been advertising and selling them as a "DNA20 or DNA30" device....when in fact they're NOT!

And when Evolv has had their fun....then the really scary is gonna hit the fan when the Federal Trade Commission steps in and starts ARRESTING people for selling counterfeit merchandise and seizing everyone's devices!!

Did you know that it's illegal to sell counterfeit products?

Now wrap that around your head and think about what could happen to YOU...the person that bought the counterfeit merchandise!

Morning coffee and a vape.....your comments are consistant (for the most part) with what I've read also...not wanting to extend the drama suffice it to say "it is what it is" and all are aware of the issues (for the most part), so the ball in their court (vendors) as to how they continue going forward.....back to reading the rest of the overnight banter....everybody have a great day...finally getting some much needed rain here....

 

[Ellzey]

Paypal contacted Illvapes and got my money back within 12 hours...The exact words of the lady who works at paypal "Well the more sketchy it is when we contact them the faster we will get the money back" Lol. I've noticed Illvapes copy and pasting the same paragraph to people In every email...Paypal didn't like that.

 

[Muggs]

Wow apparently 101 Vape has been responding to my emails, I can only see them when I log in to their site under my account which is weird. I have had a tracking number since the 21st and it's out for delivery today.

My mail gets here by 2pm so I will post some pics when it arrives today.

- 101 Vape, Black, round 2

YYYEEEEEEEEESSSS!!!

 

[alee132]

Hmm, if you click the color selector, clear is an option in my browser. Sorry.

Well I sure feel stupid now. I didn't see them on my pc, I missed it somehow. I checked on my phone just now. It was there. Damn though $18.50 when I can get more for under $5 just not precut. Unless this is real carbon fiber lol

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[Shekinahsgroom]

I think you would get 60-70 for one used in good condition. I personally have no interest in selling the one I get, if the board dies I'll stick a real DNA 30 in it. But I think you underestimate the resale on vape gear.

The problem lies in the ADVERTISING.

You bought it as a DNA20/30....eh-eh, 100% fake.

So, to avoid being sued...(or WORSE) you're gonna have to advertise it for exact what it is!

"For sale or trade....a used trademark infringement replica of a DNA30 & Hana Modz device made in China."

Since there's no name other than the illegal reference that China/vendor sold it to you, then you'll have to either make up your own name for it or sell it just like the quote above....which is actually what it is since that's how it was sold to you.

Any reference...to the real McCoy(s)....could get you arrested and that's no joke! Especially since all of these devices were sold under a trademark infringement lawsuit. You'd have to be stone-cold stooopid to even think about using any terminology of "Hana Modz or Evolv DNA20/30" when attempting to resell it.

So....who's gonna know what a China30 is?

You might get $10-$20 for the box....maybe?

This is precisely the argument that Hana Modz & Evolv is gonna lay down on every single vendor selling these devices.

Without the use of their brand name in their advertising, would these devices have sold by the thousands in a matter of months?

NOPE!

Be real....thousands of people are buying them because they believe they're buying a real DNA20/30 device.

Even Vapor Joe's was advertising them and directly implying that Evolv sold-out to China!

 

[Ellzey]

So Illvapes got "the green light" lol yeah right. On another note this is the first time I've ever been asked by a company to get a partial refund instead of a full refund... Why the f would ANYONE do that.

"We can however, ship out black no-logo units—so if you would like to change your order to the black ones, we will have it shipped to your door within 1-2 weeks regardless of when your order was put in.

Rest assured that your satisfaction remains our highest priority. Although you are ultimately entitled to a full refund, we ask that if you could accept a partial refund."

 

[alee132]

oh, btw, just copied and pasted that from elevate update page. I have no affiliation with the company.

BTW you are at least the 2nd or 3rd person to repost this giant update.

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[Miata GT]

A question for all you experienced with DNA or other devices with a higher voltage starting point.

Now I understand ohms law and whatnot, but I am trying to figure something out as I have never built coils for this type of purpose..

My daily vape is a kayfun with a 1.2 ohm coil, and on my Provari's I run it at 3.8 volts. That is yielding me a 12.03 Watt setup using 3.1 amps. However the DNA devices will need a 4V minimum and if I was using the same coil it would be 13.3 ish, but just to keep it more in the zone of it regulating better I would want 4.1v at minimum and it would be 14 watts..

So I was thinking OK if I run a 1.5 ohm coil, and set the DNA to 12 watts it would be at 4.24 volts and the amperage would drop to 2.82. Would running a higher ohm coil with more voltage and less amperage feel the same vape as running with more amperage and less voltage? Wattage would be the same, it would just be doing it a different way. And this would translate fine to my Provari, the only down side is sticking the kayfun on a mech is going to not work out as well once the battery starts to fade a bit. Right now it works fine on the Provaris and the mechs.

The thing that gets me a little confused is this. I am using good batteries, like Sony VTC4's and the Efest 30's and wahtnot. On a mech with this kayfun it will be fine all day no burnt hits. Last night I decided to put the provari to 4.1v and it was burning it like crazy. I know on a mech you get voltage drop and just general battery sag as it is unregulated, but can it really be sagging that much that on the mech the batteries are going from 4.2 full to like 3.9 or so? I guess it makes sense as the Provari keeps it at the 4.1 or whatever you set it too. That is the only reason I am rethinking my coil builds for this DNA device as the particular juice I daily vape (Unflavored) will start to burn if on this coil it sees a a constant 4.1v...

Hope that makes sense..

It be your mech as well. If your mech has any voltage drop you won't get your 'full' 4.2 off the bat anyway.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

**UPDATE 5/23/14 @ 1:12AM EST: Good evening/morning everyone! It has been a crazy week for you customers and us. Currently we have been shipping out units since Tuesday after noon. Each shipment we receive from cloupor has random amounts of clones in them. These shipments are usually around 200-300 units each. Colors are at random, so if you have an orange and your number is 353 and the person ahead of you has black and has their order fulfilled, it is not because we hate you or have skipped you, it is because that color is in stock. Also, we have been bombarded with phone calls and emails, WE LOVE THIS! If we do not reply to your phone call or email, please continue to spam us with emails so that we can see them. Sometimes an email is sent to us, followed by 100 more and it ends up being moved so far down that we may miss it at times. WE DO NOT IGNORE ANYONE.

Now, onto the issue regarding colors. It is true that the box supplier is having a hard time replicating orange, green and blue. Now here is our suggestion on the issue. IF YOU LOVE THE COLOR YOU PURCHASED, DO NOT CHANGE IT FOR BLACK. Only reason we say this is because these clones are honestly worth the wait. We are glad to change your order to a black clone or silver, but honestly don't do it if you love the colored ones. We were fortunate enough to have every color in our hands. The colors are beautiful and it is truthfully worth the wait. ALL THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN FIXED, SO THIS CLONE REALLY IS WORTH THE WAIT! Now, if you are going on vacation and really urgently need a clone in your hand by a given time, you can change it to black. This is only for people who really don't care about the color and just want the clone. Send us an email with your order number and info regarding the color change. We will happily change it for you.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUED, just in case anyone is wondering. All orders will be fulfilled regardless of color, just remember that there is a wait for everything. Many people have jumped onto this pre sale and many more continue to jump on it. Thank you all for the great support you've given us. We seriously love you all and will continue to work hard so that we can fulfill everyone's order. THANK YOU ALL!

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[toastedmarshmallow]

^Elev8vape

 

[Fergie]

Updates for the Cana Modz DNA 30 Clone.

 

[Illuminatu]

@retird and @shekinahsgroom,

Why are you even projecting that people would try to resell their logo'd clone as the real thing. Do you really assume anyone that have bought those are scammers? Looks to me like you're trying to act like people of higher morale that want to teach others ethics, and no offense but not anyone has an infinite budget for vaping. If you don't agree with what others do please look the other way and don't presume they will be scamming others. This "higher morale" attitude sickens me. I own a lot of original mods and a couple clones, you don't see me pissing in peoples cheerios.

that is all

 

[munsterrr]

@retird and @shekinahsgroom,

Why are you even projecting that people would try to resell their logo'd clone as the real thing. Do you really assume anyone that have bought those are scammers? Looks to me like you're trying to act like people of higher morale that want to teach others ethics, and no offense but not anyone has an infinite budget for vaping. If you don't agree with what others do please look the other way and don't presume they will be scamming others. This "higher morale" attitude sickens me. I own a lot of original mods and a couple clones, you don't see me pissing in peoples cheerios.

that is all

Not saying that anyone is incorrect in their assumptions but the power of a dollar drives people to do some disgusting things....Low on funds? Easy way to make ~$200? Done.




Back onto order updates. COME ONNNNNNN ECIGGITY! Update us with something.

 

[PapaGeno21]

It be your mech as well. If your mech has any voltage drop you won't get your 'full' 4.2 off the bat anyway.

Exactly. That's why I'm gonna measure my real voltage drop with a fresh batt and build a setup that replicates that actual vape. A 4.2v setting will be way too harsh.