Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[Drumonron]

Folks - ILLVAPES seems to not be issuing REFUNDS and only marking there accounts as refunded...

It does not take more then 10 working days for any bank in the world to process such a low amount.

Check with your banks and take action to protect your self!

Now back to vaping my Clone

Never did like the name of that website. I mean c'mon, think about it for a second.....ill-vapes...illvapes...why call it that....hmmmm.

Wait, did I just say that out loud....oops.

 

[truskme]

Folks - ILLVAPES seems to not be issuing REFUNDS and only marking there accounts as refunded...

It does not take more then 10 working days for any bank in the world to process such a low amount.

Check with your banks and take action to protect your self!

Now back to vaping my Clone

not that im arguing with you about this since this is my 7th day waiting for a refund to return to my account, but think about how many refunds illvapes bank has to process, a lot of people jumped ship pretty much around the same time. its just incredible that even until the very end, even the refund has people worried... in all my time vaping and buying products online, i have never experienced anything like i have with illvapes... its seriously unbelievable.

 

[rswift90]

Last week I finally decided to pull the plug and order one of these things to see what the hype was about...Placed an order with Elev8 for a silver unit with no expectations on when I would eventually receive the mod. After a week of reading this and other related forums, I realized I wouldn't be seeing my Cana mod for quite some time...(I was order 3000 something). Stumbled across Wetvape and they had in stock with shipping going out 6/2 for the black ones. I took a leap of faith and ordered one from them (a bit more expensive but worth it if that meant seeing my new toy 1-2 months earlier). I then emailed Elev8 asking them to cancel my order...recieved a response a few hours later with a confirmation cancellation email and money is being put back into Paypal.

Just received an email from Wetvapes last night that my order was shipped, and only living an hour away from Amherst, NY I should see it tomorrow or Thursday!

 

[Josh Perniciaro]

I received my black mid yesterday from elev8. I'm not sure if anyone verified if the black is paint or if it is anodized but myself and a friend believe it is definitely anodized. My 510 is slightly crooked and I too have to 2 or more button press from sleep. The chip seems to be hitting my chosen setting when compared to my vaporshark DNA 30. It is well worth the money.

 

[retird]

I'm still thinking it's something to do with the cheap buttons used... Although I'd assume the wattage up button would also be affected...

Edit: I'm noticing more people are saying it's starting to happen after its used a while... Mine fired directly when I first got it.

@Retird ,you around what did you say was happening with a faulty button in a build of yours? I'm to lazy to go back through all these pages

Morning coffee and a vape...catching up on the posts....

Curly, I've had a few button issues on the many mods I've built using the type button you reference... buttons did work but with infrequent miss-fires...replaced them and issue went away....may/may not be what you guys are seeing....

 

[Fergie]

Folks - ILLVAPES seems to not be issuing REFUNDS and only marking there accounts as refunded...

It does not take more then 10 working days for any bank in the world to process such a low amount.

Check with your banks and take action to protect your self!



Now back to vaping my Clone

Charge back initiated for the 1 they didn't refund. Money's better off in my pocket lol

 

[MrKiltYou]

OEM buyers dont put me down, in fact most people agree with my point of view. because your average vaper doesn't have $250 to throw away on a 30 watt device, much less one with a crooked 510 and a 2 month wait period attached to horrible customer service. true, we thank hana modz for coming up with the box design, but the hero is evolv and cloupor for redesigning the DNA 30 chip. if you have money to waste on $200+ authentic products then by all means go ahead, but i for one quit cigarettes with not only the goal to live a healthier life but to also save my money, which is why i DIY and do cotton builds.

ps. no doubt illvapes was in the wrong for putting out a clone with a registered trademark, but did they deserve to be ultimately bankrupt? no, less you forget there running a business to.. and not out of the back of their van kind of business. a legit one with employees and taxes, a phone call or email would have been just as effective, but they chose to bury a small business which is something i cant get behind. its like if a kid on the playground called your mom fat, would you hit him in the face for it or take the higher road.... hana modz didnt take that higher road.

I doubt most OEM buyers would agree with you putting them down and saying they are wasting their money. As I said I am not against clones and I suspect that your friends that you have that are OEM buyers are not as well. While clones support the mass market OEM buyers support innovation. There is a place for both and nether should be put down for their respective roads.

Do you know that Hana didn't try the demand letter route first? I think you are making an assumption that Hana didn't try to do the simple thing first. I think you just want to vilify Hana because they sued another business. I suspect that if any company sued over TM infringement you would have the same issue regards less if they tried to work it outside of legal means first.


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[Sptz]

I've never done a chargeback, it's not an american only thing is it? Surely I can do the same from my bank in the UK?

 

[tepicky]

i find it funny that rip trippers thinks an extra click to wake up the cana mod is worth an extra $180 for the authentic, how lazy or impatient are you? someone needs to get their priorities straight. im calling it right now, if the low blow to illvapes didn't shut down hana modz, these new clones who perform exactly the same and are 1/3 the price are gonna shut them down. an idiot would buy an authentic hana modz at this point... your basically paying an extra 180 for a logo.

Youre forgetting the part where you dont have to click the button twice to wake it up... For an extra 180...

 

[Elitevapr]

Youre forgetting the part where you dont have to click the button twice to wake it up... For an extra 180...

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[retird]

Alot of banter overnight about the Hana vs. illvapes thing..... If I might just add something about the "bigger picture"....

FACTS:

China advertised an exact clone of the Hana Modz.

Vendors advertised and started pre-orders of an exact clone.

Hana Modz responded accordingly in an effort to protect their rights under US law.

China removed logo, splash screen, holograms from some of their production models.

Vendors changed their advertising (some did not). Some vendors went "undercover" to sell logo clones.

Logo and non-logo models still being sold.


With that said, I see that the message has been sent to China that there are laws that we have in the USA and you (China) better not violate them. It sends a message to US vendors that violations of US law can cause legal issues.

Bottom line to me is.... China should make clones and advertise them in a way that does not violate US law (at least the ones they send to the USA) and US vendors should not advertise nor order clones that violate US laws.

Disclaimer: You may not agree with what is said here....and thats OK.....just my opinion....and my opinion and 2 buck will get me a cup of coffee or a brew.....

 

[MrKiltYou]

Well said Truck.....I expect you will not get a response since you actually make sense and all we have heard from him is Rip is great and Bow Down to Hana....LOL

Really where did I say RT was great or that people should bow down to Hana? Just because RT and I align on using someone else logo's and company names on a clone product doesn't make me a RT fan boy. You can go through all my posts on here and see that I have no issues with clones in it and of themselves. Also you can take your assumptions about me and run along little boy...

 

[Fegbri]

Really where did I say RT was great or that people should bow down to Hana? Just because RT and I align on using someone else logo's and company names on a clone product doesn't make me a RT fan boy. You can go through all my posts on here and see that I have no issues with clones in it and of themselves. Also you can take your assumptions about me and run along little boy...

Totally unnecessary. We now have resorted to "name calling"? This is a fricken mod people...a hobby...a way to save our lives by finding an alternative to smoking.

These types of comments make me loose faith in the human race.

Debating is a great thing if kept respectful, but I think lines have been crossed. Very sad.

Anyway..still waiting for my blue #393 from elev8. Hoping for end of week.

 

[devauto]

Still staying patient. Got email from Elev8 stating they only received about 20-30 blues in the first color shipment, so my order 393 was 12 ahead of the last blue shipped. So I'll be getting mine next shipment as long as they get a minimum of 13. Just seems odd Clouper shipped so few to their "biggest orderer" Ha! Just sucks seeing 1500-1800 order numbers getting theirs while I wait.thank goodness for my Nemu and Zmax!!

At least you are close. I had to switch my color choice to Black to get mine shipped out. Apparently there is a shortage of Silver colors as well. As of yesterday, ~1060 Silvers had shipped, leaving me still ~600 orders away. I was going to order a second in black anyway, so for now I will just reverse my original color plans ... In a couple months, once all the fervor has died down, I will order a silver one (as long as my vape budget will support it) ...

 

[truskme]

I doubt most OEM buyers would agree with you putting them down and saying they are wasting their money. As I said I am not against clones and I suspect that your friends that you have that are OEM buyers are not as well. While clones support the mass market OEM buyers support innovation. There is a place for both and nether should be put down for their respective roads.

Do you know that Hana didn't try the demand letter route first? I think you are making an assumption that Hana didn't try to do the simple thing first. I think you just want to vilify Hana because they sued another business. I suspect that if any company sued over TM infringement you would have the same issue regards less if they tried to work it outside of legal means first.


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innovation? whats innovative about buying a $70 chip and marking it up $180 for putting it in a box with less then $10 worth of aluminum? if your prerogative is to spend your money in that way then thats fine, but for the price of one authentic anything... ill buy 3 clones that do the exact same thing and are identical. you ever see that show pawn stars? this is how i see the companies who machine and make their own products at the start, there just like the people who come into the pawn shops who ask for more then what they bring is really worth... and im just like rick: im bald, i hold the money and im not stupid. unless its gold plated covered in jewels, i cant see how anyone can charge as much as they do for a hollow tube.

your right, maybe hana modz did send them a nicely written letter. but i dont need to assume that other steps could have been taken before resorting to bankrupting a small business, what did hana gain from it? nothing. people get cloned all the time, you can buy them anywhere from any vendor or ebay retailer.. what makes hana modz so special that they felt the need to go to such extremes? i dont need to vilify hana modz, there doing a pretty good job of that themselves. this isn't big tobacco.. there is no need to crush the little guys with no mercy.

 

[Iceclouds]

Alot of banter overnight about the Hana vs. illvapes thing..... If I might just add something about the "bigger picture"....

FACTS:

China advertised an exact clone of the Hana Modz.

Vendors advertised and started pre-orders of an exact clone.

Hana Modz responded accordingly in an effort to protect their rights under US law.

China removed logo, splash screen, holograms from some of their production models.

Vendors changed their advertising (some did not). Some vendors went "undercover" to sell logo clones.

Logo and non-logo models still being sold.


With that said, I see that the message has been sent to China that there are laws that we have in the USA and you (China) better not violate them. It sends a message to US vendors that violations of US law can cause legal issues.

Bottom line to me is.... China should make clones and advertise them in a way that does not violate US law (at least the ones they send to the USA) and US vendors should not advertise nor order clones that violate US laws.

Disclaimer: You may not agree with what is said here....and thats OK.....just my opinion....and my opinion and 2 buck will get me a cup of coffee or a brew.....

Hey Retird, while I do agree with you 100% on all your points, the one thing that remains here is that HANA seems to have "Singled Out" ILLVAPES......as we have seen there are other Vendor which advertised and sold Logo Units and are still doing so....thus my question again "Why on ILLVAPES"........I guess maybe we will never have the answer but as long as we continue to see other US vendors advertising and selling LOGO units it will continue to look to me as a WITCHHUNT!!!!

 

[MrKiltYou]

innovation? whats innovative about buying a $70 chip and marking it up $180 for putting it in a box with less then $10 worth of aluminum? if your prerogative is to spend your money in that way then thats fine, but for the price of one authentic anything... ill buy 3 clones that do the exact same thing and are identical. you ever see that show pawn stars? this is how i see the companies who machine and make their own products at the start, there just like the people who come into the pawn shops who ask for more then what they bring is really worth... and im just like rick: im bald, i hold the money and im not stupid. unless its gold plated covered in jewels, i cant see how anyone can charge as much as they do for a hollow tube.

your right, maybe hana modz did send them a nicely written letter. but i dont need to assume that other steps could have been taken before resorting to bankrupting a small business, what did hana gain from it? nothing. people get cloned all the time, you can buy them anywhere from any vendor or ebay retailer.. what makes hana modz so special that they felt the need to go to such extremes? i dont need to vilify hana modz, there doing a pretty good job of that themselves. this isn't big tobacco.. there is no need to crush the little guys with no mercy.

Apparently it is innovative enough that so many people want this over other 30 watt devices. I disagree with the pawn stars analogy in that I could sell an authentic Hana right now for more than the retail price. I have seen Hana's sold on ebay for greater then $400. And Rick would buy anything he believed he could make a profit on.

Also according to the Reddit thread I am posting below it looks like Illvapes and Hana reached a settlement days ago. I doubt this bankrupted them and to make sweeping comments like Hana bankrupting them without any actual proof is just flat wrong.

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...ose_who_ordered_the_hana_clone_from_illvapes/

 

[MrKiltYou]

Totally unnecessary. We now have resorted to "name calling"? This is a fricken mod people...a hobby...a way to save our lives by finding an alternative to smoking.

These types of comments make me loose faith in the human race.

Debating is a great thing if kept respectful, but I think lines have been crossed. Very sad.

Anyway..still waiting for my blue #393 from elev8. Hoping for end of week.

Your right that was poor form. I had just got off a cross country overnight flight and was still waking up and a bit grumpy.

 

[Iceclouds]

Really where did I say RT was great or that people should bow down to Hana? Just because RT and I align on using someone else logo's and company names on a clone product doesn't make me a RT fan boy. You can go through all my posts on here and see that I have no issues with clones in it and of themselves. Also you can take your assumptions about me and run along little boy...

Very well said (Sir) I guess we can all see from your continuous comments pro Hana, that this is more than just an opinion and more of a Vested interest..........(Sir)

 

[MrKiltYou]

Very well said (Sir) I guess we can all see from your continuous comments pro Hana, that this is more than just an opinion and more of a Vested interest..........(Sir)

First let me apologize for the little boy comment. As I stated in another reply that was poor form and I shouldn't have said it.

I will admit that I have a Hana mod. Heck I even posted a picture of it the other day. Do I have a vested interest in Hana sure. However I don't have or plan on owning a V3Tronix flip and agree with them going after clone makers or resellers for TM infringement as well. Although I will say there pissing and moaning on their FB page and going after an individual running a group buy is pretty sad.