Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

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I'm going to have to disagree.

If there was a short on the PCB then the scorching would be precisely where the short was.

jd1978's picture clearly shows scorching around two separate microchips which are both either partially or almost completely covered with epoxy. That's the heat source, those chips. And they're not both shorted, if they were the mod wouldn't work at all at any level.





About 5% of all PCs that Dell ships are defective right out of the box. It's not unusual.

I believe when these first started coming out I posted something along the lines of expecting the first run of a largely untested clone chip in a largely untested clone mod to be defect free was unrealistic. That's part of the reason why I waited until late June to buy mine. And I'll bet by August there will be one or two more revisions making them even better and more durable. That's just how the entire CE industry works.




And I'm not really sure I would call Shenzhen Cloupor Technology a "relatively new company". They've been around since 2010 which is pretty close to forever in ecig terms.

I'll try to clean the epoxy from the board to see if that helps, or possibly uncover more damage. At any rate, I have an evolve board I will put in as soon as I get time. I also am going to mount the board a bit different as to not have epoxy and glue all over it. AtoZ sells board cradles. I may pick up one of those and give it a shot. There's ALOT of hot glue in these things to be dug out.
 

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I'm going to have to disagree.

If there was a short on the PCB then the scorching would be precisely where the short was.

jd1978's picture clearly shows scorching around two separate microchips which are both either partially or almost completely covered with epoxy. That's the heat source, those chips. And they're not both shorted, if they were the mod wouldn't work at all at any level.





About 5% of all PCs that Dell ships are defective right out of the box. It's not unusual.

I believe when these first started coming out I posted something along the lines of expecting the first run of a largely untested clone chip in a largely untested clone mod to be defect free was unrealistic. That's part of the reason why I waited until late June to buy mine. And I'll bet by August there will be one or two more revisions making them even better and more durable. That's just how the entire CE industry works.




And I'm not really sure I would call Shenzhen Cloupor Technology a "relatively new company". They've been around since 2010 which is pretty close to forever in ecig terms.

I'll have to disagree with you.... I've had a few Dimm slots, usb controllers, and on board video chips burn up while everything else continued to work. While I'll agree heat is bad, what I see Isn't caused by heat build up under glue. If that were the case it would intermittently work when cool (like an over heated cpu, until irreversible damage is done) or never have been fully functional from the start due to quick heat build up.

The Microsoft comments were in response to China making hundreds of thousands of 510 connections....

And Cloupor may have been in existence since 2010, but their first device made to vaporize e liquid was the Cloutank (a dry herb vaporizer is similar, yes but a different market). So I should have stated what I meant differently, "relatively new to the e-cigarette market that this thread is concerning"
 

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I'm not sure which I find more interesting about that pic... that it's showing basically the same problem with the same chip, or that the board in the DNA20 FT clone is so different from the Cloupor DNA30 clone. The Cloupor appears to be very near to a 1:1 clone, but the FT chip is quite different from the real DNA20.

And what is with the removing of the part numbers from the chips on the clones? Are they trying to hide the fact that these are the same chips used on the real DNA30, or are they just trying to make it look like a real DNA30 which also has the part numbers removed (usually)?
 

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I'll have to disagree with you.... I've had a few Dimm slots, usb controllers, and on board video chips burn up while everything else continued to work.

Those are all expansion slots designed to be optional so of course the PC will work without them. You could cut whole sections of a PC motherboard off and it will still work.

But try burning up the Northbridge and see what happens.

The DNA30 and it's clones do not have optional and expendable microprocessors on them. Everything is required all of the time for it to function. One failure of a microprocessor will kill the board. Two microprocessors shorting at the same time would absolutely prevent it from working.

While I'll agree heat is bad, what I see Isn't caused by heat build up under glue.

What exactly are you seeing?

I see a chip with a large blackened blob of glue on it. I see a second chip with a similar large blob of blackened glue. I see clear brown glue between the two large black blobs. I see totally normal looking glue at all of the solder points to the chips. I see normal, unmarred solder points on all of the wire connections.

What I do not see is any indication of burning or heat related failure beyond the tops and immediate sides of the chips. If you see indications of an actual short, a specific burned spot where the glue has clearly been much hotter than the rest, please point it out.





And this has got me wondering what would happen if I added small heat sinks to those chips...


And Cloupor may have been in existence since 2010, but their first device made to vaporize e liquid was the Cloutank (a dry herb vaporizer is similar, yes but a different market). So I should have stated what I meant differently, "relatively new to the e-cigarette market that this thread is concerning"

Yes, I know about their other products, but it's an argument of semantics. They've been producing batteries and atomizers for years. They are definitely not new at this, they've been around longer than Hana Modz.
 
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I just emailed Cloupor and asked if they were going to recall or replace the clones with the defective connector. I probably won't receive an answer until tonight but I will post their response when I receive it.

Took about 3 days to get a reply for me. That also included the weekend. Give it time friend.


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What exactly are you seeing?
Mind you I'm viewing this on my mobile, but the space between the two chips, towards the middle of the board not the left edge, definitely looks discolored to me. Idk if it's glue or not, but glue should not have made it that far in on the board, knowing China's quality, it very well could be...



On the other link posted the it's a bit more clear there's damage to thepart of the chip not under the glue.

This is speculation on both our parts considering we don't have the chip to fully inspect it.

I could very well be incorrect about this part but there should be a chip pushing the display, no? Which in theory is an "unnecessary" chip.
 

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so after 2 1/2 months of waiting and the whole illvapes tragedy i finally got my cana modz in last week and was able to play with it today. ironically i ended up getting my clone from illvapes after all opting not to follow through with a charge back, with that said he sent me over 1 of only 7 orange cana's that they received even though there were probably others who ordered before me who wanted orange, besides a few burrs and scratches due to im guessing rushed machining and quality control im pretty happy with the product. the orange looks amazing and it hits like a beast....

anyone successfully wrap their cana yet? any vendors out there that have a wrap that will fit the clone? i want to get a clear wrap cause the color is to amazing to cover, but i dont want to lose the grainy feeling you have with the box
 

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so after 2 1/2 months of waiting and the whole illvapes tragedy i finally got my cana modz in last week and was able to play with it today. ironically i ended up getting my clone from illvapes after all opting not to follow through with a charge back, with that said he sent me over 1 of only 7 orange cana's that they received even though there were probably others who ordered before me who wanted orange, besides a few burrs and scratches due to im guessing rushed machining and quality control im pretty happy with the product. the orange looks amazing and it hits like a beast....

anyone successfully wrap their cana yet? any vendors out there that have a wrap that will fit the clone? i want to get a clear wrap cause the color is to amazing to cover, but i dont want to lose the grainy feeling you have with the box

Yes, j-wraps fits well. Just be sure to go for the Hana V3 Clone. The Hana V3 doesn't work real well as there are some minor difference that do effect the wrap fitting. I got the Hana V3 first and it didn't fit properly. It was off in a couple of sizes so got the clone version and if fit about as good as it gets.
 

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so after 2 1/2 months of waiting and the whole illvapes tragedy i finally got my cana modz in last week and was able to play with it today. ironically i ended up getting my clone from illvapes after all opting not to follow through with a charge back, with that said he sent me over 1 of only 7 orange cana's that they received even though there were probably others who ordered before me who wanted orange, besides a few burrs and scratches due to im guessing rushed machining and quality control im pretty happy with the product. the orange looks amazing and it hits like a beast....

anyone successfully wrap their cana yet? any vendors out there that have a wrap that will fit the clone? i want to get a clear wrap cause the color is to amazing to cover, but i dont want to lose the grainy feeling you have with the box

The j wraps for Hana clone fit pretty good. I posted this earlier, but here is a clear carbon over my custom white decals.



 

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I didn't know Clouper was established in 2010 , i need to research their products a little more to see what kind of quality i can expect , by some of the comments in this thread you would think they are top shelf and put out superb products .

Interesting to see what else they have released that has stood the test of time. The quality of these chips is completely unknown and will be for quite some time it appears.

Sounds like Evolve will be doing very good business.
 
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