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Knowledge is power. If the ego works for you great. If it doesn't like it hasn't for many. Sorry for the waste of money. Everyone tries to help in their own way. Whether or not you take the advice. You asked for it. Don't complain when you aren't the OP asking for advice when your just another advisor. It does no good. Advisors are there to give their opinion. Not to argue amongst themselves to prove their point is the end all. The provari isn't the end all for most. It's just the beginning of a long journey of collection more APVs. But it also the firm foundation most rely on
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Notes to self:
Provari thread provides many many posts.
Don't read all posts unless bored.
Life is too short to argue the merits of e-cig.
Questions for others:
Have anyone thought of the fact that no one who doesn't vape and most who do couldn't care less what brand battery you hold?
If you like what you have...does it make you sad if others disagree?
Aside from free entertainment, do you know you will get nothing from these threads?
Provari thread provides many many posts.
Don't read all posts unless bored.
Life is too short to argue the merits of e-cig.
Questions for others:
Have anyone thought of the fact that no one who doesn't vape and most who do couldn't care less what brand battery you hold?
If you like what you have...does it make you sad if others disagree?
Aside from free entertainment, do you know you will get nothing from these threads?
This thread is a rant. So therefore reading and posting in it I would believe that the purpose was not to receive knowledge but rather to rant and state your own personal views?
when i started i was given the suggestion of a basic cheap ego. it was good advice. now i want to try other things.and am comfortable paying a higher price. to sugest a top end model that costs $$$$$ although the adivce of the product is good , the cost is intimidating to beginners who arent sure if vaping is even for them , not so willing to see that the first thing put forward to them is going to be so expensive , risk my friends is what the issue is , nobody wants to take that advice find out vaping isnt for them and throw away that high cost investment. i bought cheap , i threw stuff away but because it was low cost it did as was intended , piques myy interest and got rid of the fears that vaping wasnt for me. now i could go and buy a provari without worrying that my investment would be a waste. as a first buy however , hell no.
from reading this should the advice be not to just go out and buy a provari. but this.
" check the classifieds'! "
from reading this should the advice be not to just go out and buy a provari. but this.
" check the classifieds'! "
I have no e-cig related rant. Fanatical responses on either side of an issue amuse me.
Ios vs android
pc vs mac
ford vs chevy
On and on...people justify their purchase or avoidance of a purchase more on emotion than logic.
I care a great deal about saving money, disability pays me very little. But for every dollar I am not spending on cigarettes, I am spending on vaping. A lot of it went to the DIY (I have a liter of 100 mg nic in the freezer though) as it can be expensive to save money in the long haul (my basis for the ProVari expenditure).
My break even date is coming up in about 2 weeks now that I don't have to buy Blu cartridges or replace CE's and vivi heads and other disposables that I had to charge 3 -4 times a day and only had a life of ~250 charges
Back on topic, all I am saying is that I think having more options would have helped me when I found this forum and was looking to upgrade. I don't think it should be a blanket "don't recommend the ProVari to newbies". I understand there are a LOT of people for which the Blu works well and got them off cigarettes. I understand some people have the money to replace disposables like ego's, but I would rather buy a different type of thing to try than keep throwing money at egos like that. I think a non-disposable would serve others who want to invest in something for the long haul with the money they save over smoking.
I'm a gadget freak, and have more junk laying around than you would believe, half of which I 'botched' togeather myself. Funny part is that I have a tendency to set them all up to taste the same. Yes I can make my $220 Provari taste just like my $2.20 mini box mod.
There are a lot of different ways to vape, and a person doesn't have to spend a lot of money unless they want to.
My grungy old Ford PU gets me around quite nicely. Just to bad my wife wouldn't be caught dead in it, so I have to have a nice car too.
There are a lot of different ways to vape, and a person doesn't have to spend a lot of money unless they want to.
My grungy old Ford PU gets me around quite nicely. Just to bad my wife wouldn't be caught dead in it, so I have to have a nice car too.
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You make ABSOLUTELY no sense to me - and I'm someone who makes little sense to anyone at all.
I'm staying out of the great Provari debate, but I have a funny feeling you didn't have to dig too deep to find someone recommending it somewhere when you initally joined ECF. Seems like you're upset that someone didn't "get a provari" your newbie introduction. Sorry about that. I don't think anyone is demanding a "don't recommend the ProVari to newbies" blanket. The blanket they're suggesting feels like a "don't recommend the ProVari to a newbie that clearly outlines a $50 budget" blanket.
When I first started out I'd tried everything, I was chewing on the gum, wearing two patches and would still light up and smoke two Marlboro reds when I was stressed out! I was a solid 2 PAD smoker! Then I heard a radio commercial about some e-cig, I don't even remember the name of it now, but I came home and researched it. I found out it was a total scam, they'd automatically charge you $75 a month for the rest of your life and so on, and didn't seem to work very well.
Through that search I found this forum, which I joined and read, and read, and read! I looked at vendor forums watched how they treated customers, how involved they were with the forum and how they took care of problems. I did a LOT of research on this.
Finally, after about four months, I bought a kit from Vapor 4 Life, stick batteries, carto's a passthrough and a charging case. It worked for me just fine! I think I had six or eight batteries in rotation that I would keep charged and grab another when one went dead.
That's the problem with making suggestions, it's all so subjective. I needed the cigalikes, that's what helped me with my transition, having something familiar to me made it easier. But that didn't work for you for whatever reason.
Later on I was gifted a BB from a gentleman on this forum and I'd be hard pressed to ever go back to stick bats again! Then I found tanks, I'd be hard pressed to go back to carto's again! Then I found VV and everything changed, again!
But some don't want a mod, it's too big, looks funny, feels funny, whatever. Some don't like tanks, too big, to messy, too much work, whatever.
I could suggest what type of cigs to smoke, you might not like the taste of them, I could suggest what juice I like, but you may hate it, I could suggest a good kit to start with, but you might hate it. Even as we've seen in this thread, what works great and makes one person happy, it doesn't work for someone else for whatever reason. All of these do the same thing at the end of the day, just in different ways. It's subjective to each individual how well it works for them. As much as I wish it were easy as "this is the best kit for everyone to get started with" it's not that simple! Most times I suggest an EGO of some sort to start with anymore, decent battery life, decent size and relatively cheap to get started with. If it's someone that seems willing to spend more money and acts like this is going to work for them, then I make other suggestions as the conversation progresses.
I also agree we need to take into account how much a person was smoking, but I mainly use that for nicotine strength suggestions more than battery worries. I've read of 1/2 pack smokers killing an EGO in a couple of hours and 2 pack smokers going all day on the same battery, so that doesn't seem to be much help.
Maybe this is something that needs to be discussed with the Vets, what some good kits would be to recommend? The problem I see with that is technology is changing so fast come tomorrow there may be something totally new out and yesterday's suggestion isn't even available!
I smoked for 40 years.
last 10 or 15 at 2+ pad
I quit with joye 510s and egos, standard resistance attys, clear carts
and, almost 2 years later I'm still using them!
just saying...........
oh and PS, I didn't want to quit smoking, I wanted to cut back from 2+pad to 1pad. within a month I was down to 2 cigs a day. (I still smoke those 2 cigs a day - because I'm old and I want to. there are many times I skip them though...)
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This is pretty much where I am. Except I don't have a hybrid. But anyway....I honestly don't really want a P. Nothing personal, it's just not something I feel I want, or would even really utilize to it's potential. That's just me. And I agree with those who are trying to remind people that we all need to READ what is being said in a OP's question/posts and pay attention. If they have a budgetary limit, it's real to them. Try to respect that.
There are lots of jeans just as good as Levi's available for less money.
LOL
I am glad that when I started people were recommending joye 510s and egos/rivas for newbies
I recently got gifted a reo by a wonderful person and am learning how to use it, but am still using my little ones
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