Attention ProVari Owners

[Plumes.91]

well, if your the type of person going to a vape meet your probably the type of person with expensive mods. for the most part.

 

[Buggs5347]

Sounds like they were attempting to vape it like an analog.Is pretty common with people who try mine even after i stop them and explain that its different.

No, they have been using Twists for quite some time. Not a noob.

 

[Plumes.91]

thats funny because the twists are typically over regulated to V average rather than rms aren't they? although, if hes used to low res or standard res cartos/ats near the twists lowest setting, which is like what? 3.3 volts, that could be why.. but the provari goes down that low as well.

 

[zapped]

well, if your the type of person going to a vape meet your probably the type of person with expensive mods. for the most part.

Local vapemeet was potluck and was represented by a wide variety of people. We had construction workers alongside nurses,defense contractors and students.

Really broad spectrum of pay scales there too

 

[zapped]

thats funny because the twists are typically over regulated to V average rather than rms aren't they? although, if hes used to low res or standard res cartos/ats near the twists lowest setting, which is like what? 3.3 volts, that could be why.. but the provari goes down just as low I think..

V2 goes to 2.9 at the lowest setting

 

[C Heise]

We also have to respect budgets, I myself had to scrimp, save and sell my soul to "she who must be obeyed" to pull off a purchase of this magnitude!

You know what I have my wife save as in my phone?..................... High Commander
(if you quiz someone, you have to insert a pause ^^^^^ so they have time to guess)

 

[siampumpkin]

Everytime someone tells me to buy a Provari it makes me want one even less. I don't want to a member of a cult.

 

[NancyR]

It is true that the Provari is "pushed" quite a bit more than it should and I pretty much agree with all of what bebeau25 said. I think that, it many cases, vapers who own the P have already gone through a lengthy and costly "trade-up" cycle in their PV's and are elated to have finally found such a fine device. With that history, they feel compelled not only to "tell the world" but also to "prevent others from making the same mistake". It makes the hairs on the backs of their necks stand up when someone says the want to buy a $150+ setup that they know from experience is not half the quality of the P...Nonono...don't do that...just get a...
Don't be too hard on them as, in most cases, I really think they are just trying to short-circuit the buying/learning/re-buying... cycle that they themselves went through when giving advise to newer vapers. Really, if it were all egotistical, they would tout their purchases as unattainable by the masses when, in fact, they are suggesting that everyone [that can afford it] should get one.

That said...yeah, it can get a bit annoying.

While I will agree Provaris are top of the line VV devices, they are simply not the path everyone takes. I tried a friends Provari, and it wasn't for me. The only reason I even have a vv device is a friend gave me one of their lower end ones. Everything else I have and use is mechanical, I like how they vape. Now that I have a hybrid I love it.

I have been reading along..deff interesting and a fun thread...I always recommend a Provari for anyone who is starting off, because If they make the mistakes I made they will be spending $$$$ before they realize they should have went with a provari. I also dont understand how smokers here in NE "$8.75 for a pack of cigs" can say it is too expensive..thats 20 days for a pack of day smoker, we offer the Provari because we know it will be a good, strong, long lasting PV..

Keep in mind please not everyone pays those prices for cigs. As my sister still smokes I go and buy them for her, I get her 3 packs for $7 or a carton for $22.50, when I was smoking I would buy ryo for less than $30 a month. So yes to me spending $200-$300 on a APV was too much.

 

[Plumes.91]

yeah I just meant interest wise, if your going to go to a vape meet, the scale would be skewed because the type of people going to a vape meet will probably typically have more advanced vapers than novice vapers, and at that, more vapers interested in the more expensive and higher quality vape supplies.

 

[zapped]

yeah I just meant interest wise, if your going to go to a vape meet, the scale would be skewed because the type of people going to a vape meet will probably typically have more advanced vapers than novice vapers, and at that, more vapers interested in the more expensive and higher quality vape supplies.

Youre probably right but was reassuring to me.More advanced/experienced vapers USUALLY means more knowledgeable/smarter but I guess I should consider more invested as well.

 

[denali_41]

Everytime someone tells me to buy a Provari it makes me want one even less. I don't want to a member of a cult.

yea know what,,the watts fanboys are much worse then the provaris..they literally will tell wattage is superior to VV all day long

i tried VW,,psssfff that was a certain amount of my life i will never get back !!!

 

[Plumes.91]

i keep hearing that and it really makes me want to try a vw device. I keep hearing the technology isn't there yet. idk. they sound easy though. you can just leave it set for the most part? sounds nice. I'm switching between my st DCT tanks and my vivis and they are all different ohms.

 

[I Shall Not Recant]

If someone asks 'what can I get for $50?' and someone replies with 'get a ProVari' then that is just ignorant.
People can come up with any reason they want for saying it, they can justify it to themselves any way they want but it doesn't hide the fact that they chose to ignore relevant information in the question. Therefore they are being ignorant.

By all means recommend a ProVari but at least answer the actual question first. Guide them in not wasting that $50 so that when they can afford a ProVari they have a good working backup for that ProVari.

Also...
If you are trying to save that person from making the same mistakes as you then realise that part of the reason you appreciate the ProVari so much is because of those mistakes.


I like regulated voltage but I really enjoy an unregulated fresh battery hitting hard when I get home from work and slowly dropping voltage to a more mellow vape by the time I'm ready for my bed. Something I doubt I would have discovered had I gone straight to a ProVari.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yes I do think its immature to laugh at someone because they don't have enough money for something. As a matter of fact I think it is down right mean. Titanium please do realize that I am not trying to attack you or tell you what you can or can't recommend to someone. Just take into consideration that some people can't afford one.

Look, I agree with your overall point and used to have issues with people and there pictures of there 25+ PVs. At some point I realized that while some people very well may be boasting and saying, "hey, look what I can afford," the vast majority of people on this forum will at some point buy enough devices that they will have spent the money on a ProVari.

When I first started out I was anti-ProVari and thought I didn't have the money for it nor did I understand why someone would want the dern thing (or anything as or more expensive--of course the ProV isn't the most expensive PV by any stretch). Well, after spending over 200 dollars on 5-6 808 kits and accessoriesfacepalm, and then egos, k-gos and such, I came to the sobering realization that I had spent a ton of money (probably 2 ProVaris by that point) and was still without a device that could last me forever and satisfy me for that long.

Since I bought my ProV, I have only bought one more mod, but I ended up selling it shortly after. I realized that I was trying to keep up with the Jones's and I, with my finances, had no business perpetrating like that. There are many great devices out there and I think the ProV is one of the more user friendly, solidly built, cost effective, best buys that one may purchase. Luckily, nowadays, there are many effective PVs out there, but I can only ever recommend what I know and believe. Just remember, buying something for half the price that will need to be replaced is not exactly saving money.

p.s. I am a full-time artist and I understand not having a lot of money to spend.

p.s.2 I understand your sentiment, though.

 

[flintlock62]

I was overwhelmed with information when I first started, but not because of the Provari, I was suggested MANY, MANY different devices. I was even told my cig-a-like I first purchased was fine and dandy. That may be OK for some people, but it wasn't good enough for me. That's why I found and joined the forum. Bang, 50 devices I didn't know existed, mods, Twists, Darwin's, Spinners, Silver Bullets, clearomizer's, cartomizer's, dripping, Penelope's you name it, and oh yes, the Provari! Darn, what is all this stuff? You mean there are choices other than a cigarette looking thing?

If some people feel the Provari should not be mentioned to a newcomer, then many other devices should not be mentioned either. We should ask the veterans to ban together and come up with a MAGICAL STARTER KIT that everyone can agree upon.

Fortunately however, I'm intelligent enough to research the internet and find what was in my price range and make a logical decision. I think other people are also intelligent enough to make their own decision as well.

I don't feel the "hate" commented on, but it's a decorum of respect that's needed! YES, in the long run it can save you money, but what's the "long run" for most newbies? What's the fear factor for most newbies?
Say you just signed up to the forums, scared to death, trying to get the best bang for the buck and hoping it works for you! Then BAM! Someone comes on and suggests you need to buy a $200 plus mod, a $50 plus tank, and you have no clue what they are talking about, much less how this all works together! It's intimidating and overwhelming to say the least! "Why do I need to spend that kind of money to get started?"
Really, a set of EGO's will get them going, then if they want to upgrade, they can. I get the wasted money, I've done it myself! It is what it is, but you aren't going to convince someone intent on buying a Yugo to upgrade to a Mercedes right off the bat! They need to "dive in the pool" first and test the water! Once they see the waters fine, then they will warm up to other options. If the water doesn't work for them, then they need another option.
Regardless of opinion, an EGO and Provari do the same thing, get people off analogs. At the end of the day, that's the goal! YES, it's great to try, and want to help people from making dumb mistakes, but if the end result is getting them started in a better life, what's the difference? We just can't scare them off and overload them from the get go, I think that is the point of this thread, we want to help but have to be careful to not be over zealous while doing so.

 

[flintlock62]

LOL! Most artist's don't get rich until after they're dead!

p.s. I am a full-time artist and I understand not having a lot of money to spend.

 

[goldcoastmat]

All relavent info aside about ignoring an OP's financial concerns. I avoided the Provari for a while when I started Vaping, not just because of the cost. The menu system is wonky at best. I started with a lavadude from vapedudes. Still one of my favorite mods.. inexpensive, very user friendly (one click voltage changes, single Click Ohm tester). Then I went to my first Vape meet and won a provari in a raffle. I forced myself to use it for a week before planning to sell it...

I've used it every day since and havent looked back..

I had pretty much the same experience with RTA's, looked to complicated to much work etc. Then I got one... Now I not only enjoy the vape experience more than my old Carto tanks, I actually enjoy the tinkering with rebuilding the wick and coil.. I'm hooked and buying up different styles to try.

 

[Eaglegsw14]

Flint said it. Give people a lot of options and let themselves make an educated decision. Whether or not it's in or immediate price range or not. Buying a lesser device because that was in your price range and you didn't hear about higher end devices and going back to smoking because of the lack of satisfaction the device brought you is counter productive. More knowledge better buying.

 

[myyrkezaan]

yea know what,,the watts fanboys are much worse then the provaris..they literally will tell wattage is superior to VV all day long

i tried VW,,psssfff that was a certain amount of my life i will never get back !!!

i keep hearing that and it really makes me want to try a vw device. I keep hearing the technology isn't there yet. idk. they sound easy though. you can just leave it set for the most part? sounds nice. I'm switching between my st DCT tanks and my vivis and they are all different ohms.

I have different ohm heads too, I still use VV over VW, not sure why. What will complete it is when they show ohms, V and W on the display at the same time and have less than 0.5 W increment.

Everytime someone tells me to buy a Provari it makes me want one even less. I don't want to a member of a cult.

Too late, you already are .

 

[Eaglegsw14]

Hey at least if you start with a provari and don't like it. Sell it on the classys. You will almost make your initial investment. How many low end devices can do that?