What atomizer would be recommended for dripping on a 14650 ePower, when I want as much TH and flavor as possible? All I currently have are the 'default' ones that came with the device...they do nothing for me.
Atty recommendations for dripping on an ePower?
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Hi, I'm new to all this & my 1st *serious* PV is a E-Power 14650. I've just been searching for a good atomizer as well and keep seeing favorable references to the HH .357. That's really all I know about it at this point - I think they're pretty expensive as atomizers go and I believe they're 2 ohm units. Anyway I'm still digging... Loving the E-Power but don't have much to compare it to, and anxious to see what it can do before even thinking about an upgrade. Good luck & Happy vaping!
Well, since I'd posted that I ended up getting a few attys. I picked up a couple smok-tech 2ohm 306s, an ikv 1.8 ohm, and a LR bridgeless from Empire. Didn't have the guts to commit to a $20 atty yet! 
Well, since I'd posted that I ended up getting a few attys. I picked up a couple Smok-tech 2ohm 306s, an ikv 1.8 ohm, and a LR bridgeless from Empire. Didn't have the guts to commit to a $20 atty yet!
I've seen some very favorable references to the ikv 1.8 306s, and I'm wondering: what does the number "306" designate, and is it compatible with the 510 connection? I looked around for 510 - 306 adapters and didn't see any. I see the Ikenvape site is up & running so I'd like to try those if they'll fit my E-Power. Thanks!
They'll fit the ePower, but there are some considerations.
Now, I'm new to dripping too, and so far I don't care for it all that much. I'm a pretty lazy vaper. I'm really only interested in dripping for DIY purposes so that when I have a mix that I want to try, I'm not commiting to filling an entire carto - I'm only dripping a few drops to try it out. So, MY answer wouldn't be the definitive answer, but:
306, as far as I understand it, simply refers to the threading or the battery connector. Not sure what the difference is between 306 and 510, but it fits on the 510 connector of the ePower. Go figure...just like the 901 fits on an 808...but I digress.
The thing about the 306 is that it leaks. I would imagine that any atty will, simply because of the method and that they all seem to have the air holes at the bottom. So what I've been advised is that first and foremost you want a SEALED connector. I don't know for certain if the connector on the ePower switch is sealed, but I did pick up a 510-510 sealed connector.
Another thing is that by putting on the 510-510 connector on the ePower, and then putting the atty into the connector, the ePower will not fire. I think it's because you're essentially stacking adapters...not sure. But I tried it, and it didn't fire. Swapped batteries...still didn't fire so that leads me to my conclusion about stacking adapters. If I remove the 510-510, it fires but I didn't try dripping as I simply can't tell if it's a sealed connector on the ePower switch. I actually got the attys for use on my little vv box.
To help with the leaking, though, get a drip shield. The most well-known place is Empire Mods, but it's hard to get the nice aluminum ones - they currently only have the black or white delrin shields by MAP - MAP Edition Empire Drip Shield - but they work!
Also, for 306s and the drip shield, you'll want the XL 306 drip tip as the regular 306 drip tips will be too short to work well with the shield. Delrin 306 XL Drip Tip
Be sure to read the info on the drip shield page, too.
And that is pretty much all I know, or think I know, about dripping so far!
Now, I'm new to dripping too, and so far I don't care for it all that much. I'm a pretty lazy vaper. I'm really only interested in dripping for DIY purposes so that when I have a mix that I want to try, I'm not commiting to filling an entire carto - I'm only dripping a few drops to try it out. So, MY answer wouldn't be the definitive answer, but:
306, as far as I understand it, simply refers to the threading or the battery connector. Not sure what the difference is between 306 and 510, but it fits on the 510 connector of the ePower. Go figure...just like the 901 fits on an 808...but I digress.
The thing about the 306 is that it leaks. I would imagine that any atty will, simply because of the method and that they all seem to have the air holes at the bottom. So what I've been advised is that first and foremost you want a SEALED connector. I don't know for certain if the connector on the ePower switch is sealed, but I did pick up a 510-510 sealed connector.
Another thing is that by putting on the 510-510 connector on the ePower, and then putting the atty into the connector, the ePower will not fire. I think it's because you're essentially stacking adapters...not sure. But I tried it, and it didn't fire. Swapped batteries...still didn't fire so that leads me to my conclusion about stacking adapters. If I remove the 510-510, it fires but I didn't try dripping as I simply can't tell if it's a sealed connector on the ePower switch. I actually got the attys for use on my little vv box.
To help with the leaking, though, get a drip shield. The most well-known place is Empire Mods, but it's hard to get the nice aluminum ones - they currently only have the black or white delrin shields by MAP - MAP Edition Empire Drip Shield - but they work!
Also, for 306s and the drip shield, you'll want the XL 306 drip tip as the regular 306 drip tips will be too short to work well with the shield. Delrin 306 XL Drip Tip
Be sure to read the info on the drip shield page, too.
And that is pretty much all I know, or think I know, about dripping so far!
i have an ePower as my backup to my Provari. i love the LR MA306 on it. it does fire with the 510-510 adaptor... there are times where mine does not fire either i have no clue why.
epower with 510-510, XL 306 drip tip, ma306,drip shileld #winning!
epower with 510-510, XL 306 drip tip, ma306,drip shileld #winning!
Interesting, pappajon! Thanks for the info.
I'd been told that stacking adapters can short out the battery or switch, especially when used in conjunction with a LR atty or carto due to too much resistance, but I really know nothing of those things anymore...
I'd been told that stacking adapters can short out the battery or switch, especially when used in conjunction with a LR atty or carto due to too much resistance, but I really know nothing of those things anymore...
Well, since I'd posted that I ended up getting a few attys. I picked up a couple Smok-tech 2ohm 306s, an ikv 1.8 ohm, and a LR bridgeless from Empire. Didn't have the guts to commit to a $20 atty yet!
So what's the prognosis? Which atty is working the best of these 3?
I've actually only tried the standard 510s and a 306 so far...the 306 is better in my opinion at this point. Haven't yet tried 901 yet.
306 are my favorite, but on the epower you should be looking for two ohm or higher atties because of the amp cutoff on the epower. Sometimes 1.8 will fire but Ive never had good luck with 1.5. Always cuts off half way into my drag.
I think the epower is sealed. Usually it is unsealed if it is an automatic non-switch based ecig, like the 510 and smokestik.
The 510 refers to the threading. The 306 though usually has a 510 thread on it. All the different atomizers have different advantages and disadvantages. The 510 atomizers are probably one of the easiest no fuss atomizers out there. It is ok on the flavor and throat hit, but if very forgiving. The 306 has an awesome throat hit and usually gives the boldest flavor. There are also other atomizers based on thread size and some hybrids like the hv line. Also, quality or name brand IMHO does make a difference. I find the Iken 510 atties have an easier draw, better vapor and are more durable to cleaning on occasions. Another beta atomizer you might want to look at is the Clouds of Vapor dual coil atties. Since I used one of these I have not gone back to iken atties. They have good draw, amazing bold flavor and great vapor production and they are 510 threaded. The throat hit is pretty good, but that is usually also determined by the nic level and watts, or heat. Experimentation is probably the best way to figure out what works for you. With the 306 atomizers you need to make sure to keep them wet as they are like little fire crackers!!
Last thing to consider is resistance and voltage. Since you are using an epower you are looking at 3.7 volts I think. The idea of the LR is to allow vapers using 3.7 a 5 volt experience on their 3.7 volt devices. LR or Low resistance refers to ohm ratings under 2.5 and usually around 1.5 to 2.0 ohms. It is recommended not to use 1.5 on low mah batteries, say 600mah or less. Basically the lower the resistance the more heat you will get in your vape and even the greater throat hit you will feel. Once again this all comes down to experimentation. Get some atties at different voltages, say 2.5, 2.0 and 1.8 maybe and try them out.
If you are dripping this is what I have found works for me (this will be different for different atomizers). For a 510 threaded atomizer you need to blow out the factory oil when you first get it. Then attach it to the battery and drop 3-4 drops in there and let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute (I think on 306 atomizers it is recommended to let it sit for up to 30 minutes). Put in 2-3 more drops and attach drip tip. Vape away, when you get an odd flavor, remove the tip and drop 2-3 more drops in. You can drip into a drip tip, but make sure to give a good blow to push down juice that is sitting in the neck. Also, Super T stainless steel drip tips IMHO work flawlessly for dripping directly into the atomizer, works better than any of the other drip tips I own.
If you get a noticeable gurgling and the pull feels very sluggish you probably flooded it. Take off the atomizer and blow out the liquid into a paper towel and start all over again. You do not want to vape through it as this causes strain on the atomizer.
I whole heartedly agree on getting a drip shield, I own two, the simple one and one of the hex(bought almost as soon as they were available) and love them. Use them to learn and get better at dripping. They make it more forgiving and reduce the necessity to carry wiping supplies. Also, if you are vaping for a while, it helps to give the atomizer a rest every couple of hours, so rotate one or two. Pull the current one off and blow out the juice, leave sitting on napkin so juice can flow out.
Hope that helps!!! Have fun!!!
The 510 refers to the threading. The 306 though usually has a 510 thread on it. All the different atomizers have different advantages and disadvantages. The 510 atomizers are probably one of the easiest no fuss atomizers out there. It is ok on the flavor and throat hit, but if very forgiving. The 306 has an awesome throat hit and usually gives the boldest flavor. There are also other atomizers based on thread size and some hybrids like the hv line. Also, quality or name brand IMHO does make a difference. I find the Iken 510 atties have an easier draw, better vapor and are more durable to cleaning on occasions. Another beta atomizer you might want to look at is the Clouds of Vapor dual coil atties. Since I used one of these I have not gone back to iken atties. They have good draw, amazing bold flavor and great vapor production and they are 510 threaded. The throat hit is pretty good, but that is usually also determined by the nic level and watts, or heat. Experimentation is probably the best way to figure out what works for you. With the 306 atomizers you need to make sure to keep them wet as they are like little fire crackers!!
Last thing to consider is resistance and voltage. Since you are using an epower you are looking at 3.7 volts I think. The idea of the LR is to allow vapers using 3.7 a 5 volt experience on their 3.7 volt devices. LR or Low resistance refers to ohm ratings under 2.5 and usually around 1.5 to 2.0 ohms. It is recommended not to use 1.5 on low mah batteries, say 600mah or less. Basically the lower the resistance the more heat you will get in your vape and even the greater throat hit you will feel. Once again this all comes down to experimentation. Get some atties at different voltages, say 2.5, 2.0 and 1.8 maybe and try them out.
If you are dripping this is what I have found works for me (this will be different for different atomizers). For a 510 threaded atomizer you need to blow out the factory oil when you first get it. Then attach it to the battery and drop 3-4 drops in there and let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute (I think on 306 atomizers it is recommended to let it sit for up to 30 minutes). Put in 2-3 more drops and attach drip tip. Vape away, when you get an odd flavor, remove the tip and drop 2-3 more drops in. You can drip into a drip tip, but make sure to give a good blow to push down juice that is sitting in the neck. Also, Super T stainless steel drip tips IMHO work flawlessly for dripping directly into the atomizer, works better than any of the other drip tips I own.
If you get a noticeable gurgling and the pull feels very sluggish you probably flooded it. Take off the atomizer and blow out the liquid into a paper towel and start all over again. You do not want to vape through it as this causes strain on the atomizer.
I whole heartedly agree on getting a drip shield, I own two, the simple one and one of the hex(bought almost as soon as they were available) and love them. Use them to learn and get better at dripping. They make it more forgiving and reduce the necessity to carry wiping supplies. Also, if you are vaping for a while, it helps to give the atomizer a rest every couple of hours, so rotate one or two. Pull the current one off and blow out the juice, leave sitting on napkin so juice can flow out.
Hope that helps!!! Have fun!!!
I have only been at this since September, but I have learned allot of this stuff from a mixture of experimentation and this forum!!! I also have a friend that gratefully started me off. I try to give back when possible.
Thanks folks, lots of stuff I need to know here. Chatter you covered a lot of ground and answered a number of questions I didn't yet know I'd need to be asking... that's bound to save me a lot of head-scratching (and more than a little money) in the near future. I have to be careful, sort of like going into a grocery store hungry: I've learned I'd better have a list & stick to it. Otherwise I can blow a month's allotted budget on impulse for one real good lunch (or the vaping equivalent). I'll definitely check out Clouds of Vapor, don't believe I've visited their site yet.
Thanks to all for sharing your experience on this stuff - hope to reciprocate as soon as I have some to share!
Thanks to all for sharing your experience on this stuff - hope to reciprocate as soon as I have some to share!
Heh...good luck with THAT!
In vaping, you're probably not going to get 'full'. You could have just had a ProVari, Silver Bullet, and D-Cup delivered this morning, but the next time you sit down at the computer you're looking at ordering a Reo, Helix, Empire, and Cagemods Altoids Tin MOD.
There is no escape.
Heh...good luck with THAT!
In vaping, you're probably not going to get 'full'. You could have just had a ProVari, Silver Bullet, and D-Cup delivered this morning, but the next time you sit down at the computer you're looking at ordering a Reo, Helix, Empire, and Cagemods Altoids Tin MOD.
There is no escape.
Yep, I certainly see the truth of that! OTOH I take some pride in finding frugal ways to do what must be done (or more often these days, what I want to do). This approach helps me squeeze a lot of pleasure from pretty small investments, which is a good thing because that's the only kind of investments I can make. No complaints, but even though vaping and the requisite hardware has me as excited as a 6-year-old I can't afford to be that irresponsible. Just one of the little differences between my "second childhood" and my first.
I use the HH .357 2.0ohm hybrid atty on my E-Power and it hits like a freight train. I normally use Ressurectors but do drip occassionally or drip to test juices I make. The HH.357 atty gives better flavor than any atty ive ever tried. I noticed that when vaping complex juices with an HH.357 I pick up hints of different flavors that went unnoticed with a regular atty. It also creates an absurd amount of vapor. If you like/miss the pull on a real cig than I recommend trying the HH.357. It works on a vaccuum pump and is the closest thing Ive found to how you take a drag on a normal cig. If your someone who likes to take sloww lonnngg drags on your ecig than you prob wont like the HH.357. Because it works on a vaccuum pump, taking slow drags doesnt really work well. With the HH.357 you take short harder drags, kind of like how you would on a real cig. Its crazy how much vapor you can get from a short 1-2 second drag. While it is an expensive atty at $22, you can def get your moneys worth. If you know how to use it and take care of it the HH.357 can last for many many months. Ive had mine for almost 4 months and it works pretty much just as good as the day I got it. If you think about how many crappy attys you can go thru in 4 months, then the $22 price tag really isnt that bad. For anyone who really likes dripping, its def worth trying.
And since this thread seems to have a lot of E-Power users on it, has anyone used the new switch yet? Or I guess the new-new switch?(not the plastic button with the blue LED). They came out with a 3rd switch for the 14650 E-Power. It has a clear plastic button and with a white LED. And even better they put in a new 5-click on/off feature. So now you dont have to constantly keep taking on and off that stupid piece of plastic that was easy to lose so your E-Power didnt activate in your pocket. Now you can just shut it off and throw it in your pocket with no worries
And since this thread seems to have a lot of E-Power users on it, has anyone used the new switch yet? Or I guess the new-new switch?(not the plastic button with the blue LED). They came out with a 3rd switch for the 14650 E-Power. It has a clear plastic button and with a white LED. And even better they put in a new 5-click on/off feature. So now you dont have to constantly keep taking on and off that stupid piece of plastic that was easy to lose so your E-Power didnt activate in your pocket. Now you can just shut it off and throw it in your pocket with no worries
This is one statement that is incorrect. LR on a 3.7V device is suppose to simulate 5V vaping. It doesn't. Until you try 5V's, there's no comparison at all. The only thing the LR does, is increase vapor, TH, and flavor production but doesn't come near to what an actual 5V device does.
As for the HH.357 atomizers...overpriced, terrible vapor and flavor. You also need to learn the curve for dripping with one. I've seen people pop them on the first try...just not worth it. Try the dual coil atomizers from cloudsofvapor.com. They'll last longer and have better flavor, vapor, and TH.
I second the dual coil atomizers they are awesome! The reason why lr on a 3.7 volt device is different is. That the wattage is still lower than a sr on a 5 volt which effects heat.
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