RDA Authentic vs. Clone

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GammaRadiation

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The Chinese do not care if they infringe on our copyrights, patents, or trademarks. They do nothing to design or develop the product. They simply copy it and build it with 10 cent/hour labor.

Mehhhh

This is not a patentable product. Patents expired decades ago. You can copyright the aesthetic design but all an infringer has to do is sell from over seas or make minor design changes.

Selling clones as authentic is one thing. But selling a clone as a clone is just being competitive in a reltatively free market. We could get into the discussion of economic policy, but I'd like to make a more personable point. Should someone have to pay out the ... for a non-novel design simply to make a healthier choice in nicotine usage? I think not. The margins on these things are huge, even at clone price points. Nobody is going to bed hungry because you bought a clone.
 

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Right, clones are inexpensive because the Chinese sink large sums of money into R&D and humane wages for their employees. I get it now. Good thing we have you to impart your vast knowledge on us. What would we ever do without you?
I deal with chinese made products A LOT. Not RDAs, but my statement stands.

Welcome to the future. China is no longer a ripoff rival. They are a manufacturing powerhouse and economic partner.

Your authentic may have been manufactured in China and those business are taking insane margins. So who is the worse person: the one who takes huge margins or the one who "copies" a non-patentable, non-novel design and offers it at reasonable prices?
 

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Who says I care to offer one? Especially to someone so blind as to make the statement that Chinese workers make $0.10 per hour, I guess since you heard or read that statistic somewhere it becomes true for ALL Chinese workers? Have you even been to China?

FYI, the alternative is to stop bashing China based on ill-formed personal beliefs.

Well in Mexico minimum wage is .5 an hour and we loose business to China based on cheaper labor so let's say .4 an hour for them?
 

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As twisted said the clone/authentic war is over

There are so many low priced authentic rdas rtas etc now we don't need to worry as most of us can afford them

I can tell you there are still manufactures in the US that take clones into account and that increases their price. The Velocity is an example.
They have to sell it for more to make up for the loss the clones represent. It would be imposible to make it cheaper and fast enough to compete against China.
 

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I can tell you there are still manufactures in the US that take clones into account and that increases their price. The Velocity is an example.
They have to sell it for more to make up for the loss the clones represent. It would be imposible to make it cheaper and fast enough to compete against China.
That's a great example actually

I've yet to see an authentic velocity
 

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I deal with chinese made products A LOT. Not RDAs, but my statement stands.

Welcome to the future. China is no longer a ripoff rival. They are a manufacturing powerhouse and economic partner.

Your authentic may have been manufactured in China and those business are taking insane margins. So who is the worse person: the one who takes huge margins or the one who "copies" a non-patentable, non-novel design and offers it at reasonable prices?
Who are you to decide what a "huge margin" is?
 
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Who are you to decide what a "huge margin" is?
Hundreds of percent is a huge margin, no matter how you slice it. I am not even saying these large margins are inherently bad...just that someone willing to take a much smaller margin is not bad.

When something breaks on your car do you only buy OEM parts? Should only OEMs be allowed to market parts?
 
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Considering the Chinese invented the e-cig and most name brand stuff was designed there, I wonder if this entire thread is invalid.

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I just wanted to know If clones worked as well as authentics and why I was a terrible human if I did accidentally purchase one that was not clearly marked clone or authentic.
 
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Hundreds of percent is a huge margin, no matter how you slice it. I am not even saying these large margins are inherently bad...just that someone willing to take a much smaller margin is not bad.

When something breaks on your car do you only buy OEM parts? Should only OEMs be allowed to market parts?
Do you buy cloned cars?
 

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It would be imposible to make it cheaper and fast enough to compete against China.
Are you insinuating that a Chinese machinist is quicker than an American machinist? There are plenty of machinists in this country that could cut enough corners to pump out cheap quality parts at an alarming rate if they wanted!!! They just think that standing in front of a machine qualifies them to be paid an alarming wage for merely watching a machine do all the work. All they actually do is put material in the machine and press a button!!! Yet somehow this qualifies them to be paid an ungodly sum of money, and ask an ungodly price for anything they produce!!!:censored:
 

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It was meant to be stupid. It's how you reply to a stupid argument.
Since you've gone full ......, arent all cars crappy clones of other cars? Wether you buy a Hyundai or a Bently (using this example because Hyundai stole a lot of design cues) it gets you A to B. One thing is for sure, a Hyndai isnt a bently and no one looking at Bentlys is even considering a Hyundai. Therefore Hyundai is not stealing business from Bently.

Again, Im not condoning selling Hyndais as Bentlys...just allowing both to exist in the market without getting sand in some crevices.
 
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