lets face it,,variable voltage is the only way to go no matter what your delivery system is.
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Just keep in mind that was a very basic idea of what the spinner does. When you start getting into ohms and better VV devices, the explanation gets much more gray and complex...
I know I'm a little off-topic here, but I sometimes think it would be nifty to have a variable voltage cigarette-sized battery. The dial could be at the "ash" end, just like on the larger eGo and X2-sized batteries, and color of the LED could change to indicate rising voltage. Dim blue being lowest voltage, up through to yellow, orange, dark orange, red, REALLY red, etc.
There's probably a lot of good reasons why that won't work though.
There's probably a lot of good reasons why that won't work though.
that size of a battery would not hold a charge very long if it was VV,,,it would pull the charge down to quick.
think about it !
3 hours to charge the 900mah Spinner from dead to full. I thought I just had the start time wrong.. but it keeps repeating. I haven't narrowed down exactly how long it runs me @4.2ish, but even if it's shorter than a standard 900mah, the charge time makes up for it!
Think of the voltage control as a volume control that effects flavor mainly and vapor somewhat.
When you "push" the output of a VV above the actual voltage of the battery it takes much more current, equated to mah capacity, to produce that voltage. That shortens the use time before a recharge is needed. The ideal situation is to have a battery that has higher voltage, intrinsically, so that no "boost" circuit is needed. I notice that two 18350 batteries, 3.7v with 800mah capacity, stacked last almost as long as a single 18650 2200mah battery in my VV/VW. The reason being the two batteries supply 7.4 volts total, so running the VV/VW at say 6 volts or so doesn't activate the boost circuit saving current, mah, of battery life. Almost all of the batteries in VV devices are 3.7 volts so operating at higher voltages shortens the useable time.
Another aside, fast charging lithium based batteries, unless they are specifically designed for fast charging, will shorten their overall life span.
When you "push" the output of a VV above the actual voltage of the battery it takes much more current, equated to mah capacity, to produce that voltage. That shortens the use time before a recharge is needed. The ideal situation is to have a battery that has higher voltage, intrinsically, so that no "boost" circuit is needed. I notice that two 18350 batteries, 3.7v with 800mah capacity, stacked last almost as long as a single 18650 2200mah battery in my VV/VW. The reason being the two batteries supply 7.4 volts total, so running the VV/VW at say 6 volts or so doesn't activate the boost circuit saving current, mah, of battery life. Almost all of the batteries in VV devices are 3.7 volts so operating at higher voltages shortens the useable time.
Another aside, fast charging lithium based batteries, unless they are specifically designed for fast charging, will shorten their overall life span.
I've heard that "stacking" batteries is not "safe". Any truth to that?
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Yep, makes sense. That would be one of those "good reasons why it wouldn't work" that I mentioned.
Thanks for posting this. I'm thinking of getting either a Vamo or Evic pretty soon and the ONE 18650 vs TWO 18350s has me kinda fuzzy. You've probably answered the question in your post, but I'm a bit sludge-brained at the moment so I'll just ask your opinion as to which is better? Is there any advantage (cost/performance/charge duration/time to charge) of one over the other?
To me anyway, the stacked 18350s is a better solution because it doesn't require "boost" to be used much at all which make it more efficient. Whether that means anything in the grand scheme of things I'm not sure. I have both 18350s and 18650s and use both. Again the stacked 18350s last about as long and the single 18650 and, yeah, two batteries do cost more than one. On the other hand I can use just one 18350 if I want to make the Vamo smaller for some reason, you can't do that with an 18650.
I have a 650 and it took something like 2 hours to charge last night. I was in disbelief, but sure enough it's still going strong right now. Seems the more I charge and use it, the less time it takes to charge?
Edit: Oops, spoke too soon. Just died lol...
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i am able to get extended use out of my SI cartos with my VV twist. i would assume the same is true of the spinner. the price of the twist is a bit lower. the twist has been around awhile now and with numerous vendors it is not too hard to get a really good deal on one. there is a bit of well deserved brand loyalty with SI products. I have been pleasantly surprised with the quality of the 2 twists i have so i will probably stick with those for awhile. glad to see that SI is giving it some competition outside the brand.
just got my vv spinner few hours ago.....so far im loving it....my first vv.............TH....is magic................I got the 1300mah...........I like the the shorter thickness..........feels nice in the hand.............t3s on board.........4.3v....is hitting great for flavour on the sweets.....4.3v was abit high at first....but after a hour or so on...3.8v....kick her up....nice fixed on 4.3v.....YUMO!!!..............well done smokeless image..........happy vaper am i
A cigarrete sized vv could work. Since those batteries have a 10C discharge rate. The Chinese however cannot build a buck/boost circuit so small to fit inside the S085 ASIC.
I found a way to use a microcontroller and a fet to control voltage and use puffs to control the voltage adjustment and other features. Just by puffing in predefined sequences but i don't have the resources to continue, it could be fitted to X2's and use RGB status led.
On the 78mm it could be done with the design of a new asic but since the companies who manufacture them don't design their own but get them from a specific company (there is one only for these type of sensors) there is nothing they can do.
I have a Twist and a spinner. Both are good quality devices and work as advertised but I prefer the spinner because it's so much easier to see what the setting is at.
I am loving my 900 and 1300 spinners and can't believe how fast the 1300 fully charges up... in about 3 hours! Also, these things are MADE for the T3's! I really didn't care for them before but now, they come alive on the spinners!
The 1300mah Spinner with a T3 on top makes a great all-day-vape machine!
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