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Well, you can lose a bit of flavor if you want. That's kind of up to you. The DIY forum and some other sites provide excellent advice, starter recipes review and discussion of individual flavors and how they perform and etc. You may WANT to lose a bit of flavor as you start learning flavors and etc. I flavor around 8% usually, commercial flavorings can be up to 20% ! To me, that's crazy (now that my tastebuds are back) and I have CHOSEN to lose some flavor.
However, you won't "lose" flavor in the sense that it HAS to be worse. It doesn't and I consider it better, probably 99% of the time. I'd imagine some folks still have that "magic" couple of commercial flavors they still love (I just won a flavor I will be buying 120 ml of from a brick and mortar near me. I like it enough to say, heck, I'm going to get some.
But, how much flavor you "lose" is entirely up to you, and I often feel that I have "gained" flavor in the sense that I enjoy my flavorings as much as a commercial site's offerings, sometimes more.
The money saved and self sufficiency is absolutely awesome. But, you don't have to "lose" anything, is my point. A person can get good enough to mix their own liquid equally well as a commercial outfit.
What special thing do you believe that commercial outfits have, other than more volume, and usually a "mixologist" (I'm not thinking there is any kind of "degree" involved, either) who is creating and mixing the flavors, sometimes with assistants?
Anna
However, you won't "lose" flavor in the sense that it HAS to be worse. It doesn't and I consider it better, probably 99% of the time. I'd imagine some folks still have that "magic" couple of commercial flavors they still love (I just won a flavor I will be buying 120 ml of from a brick and mortar near me. I like it enough to say, heck, I'm going to get some.
But, how much flavor you "lose" is entirely up to you, and I often feel that I have "gained" flavor in the sense that I enjoy my flavorings as much as a commercial site's offerings, sometimes more.
The money saved and self sufficiency is absolutely awesome. But, you don't have to "lose" anything, is my point. A person can get good enough to mix their own liquid equally well as a commercial outfit.
What special thing do you believe that commercial outfits have, other than more volume, and usually a "mixologist" (I'm not thinking there is any kind of "degree" involved, either) who is creating and mixing the flavors, sometimes with assistants?
Anna
Though I suppose it’s not for everyone.
I DIY most of my juice.
There are some very good budget juice vendors. eliquid-depot has a very nice line of good juice. They're $13-ish for a 120ml bottle. Cloud, Beard, Dusk and Throne are all very tasty. Broke Dick is very good, too. 1st, 15th and Dollar Menu are great. They're also in the $25-ish for two 120ml bottles.
DIY will always be cheaper. Find a few recipes you likew, get only the styuff you need to make them and cost is pennies per ml. My last 60ml of a donut recipe cost me $2.30 in ingredients.
There are some very good budget juice vendors. eliquid-depot has a very nice line of good juice. They're $13-ish for a 120ml bottle. Cloud, Beard, Dusk and Throne are all very tasty. Broke Dick is very good, too. 1st, 15th and Dollar Menu are great. They're also in the $25-ish for two 120ml bottles.
DIY will always be cheaper. Find a few recipes you likew, get only the styuff you need to make them and cost is pennies per ml. My last 60ml of a donut recipe cost me $2.30 in ingredients.
I pay around $0.40 per 30 ml of Unflavored 24 mg and a high end of $1.09 for 30 ml 3 mg of my high end blueberry muffin that took me 5 months of testing to perfect it to the blueberry muffin you get at a hotel continental breakfast. 
DIY is the way to go!!
DIY is the way to go!!
I pay around $0.40 per 30 ml of Unflavored 24 mg and a high end of $1.09 for 30 ml 3 mg of my high end blueberry muffin that took me 5 months of testing to perfect it to the blueberry muffin you get at a hotel continental breakfast.
I’d be interested in seeing that recipe!
Ooh i would love a decent blueberry muffin vape. I have tried many types from B&m and they are all horrible. For some reason they all use this nasty perfumy blueberry flavouring urgh.I pay around $0.40 per 30 ml of Unflavored 24 mg and a high end of $1.09 for 30 ml 3 mg of my high end blueberry muffin that took me 5 months of testing to perfect it to the blueberry muffin you get at a hotel continental breakfast.
Once our mighty fine Canadian government figures they can't stop the runaway vape train they are going to tax the chit so vaping is just as if not more expensive than smoking. I keep thinking to give flavorless a try but too complicated of a recipe to sit down and make some. I don't know the local small town price for juice but it isn't cheap trying to keep a thirsty baby beast or some other power hitter satisfied with juice.
My 3 years of DIY using Canadian nic is less than a nickle a mil using 7nic and 5% flavoring, mostly tobaccos. My last FB juice win I had to cut the vendor juice down to 20% so I could vape it and still sickly sweet. I still gave it all away.
Using a lower nic usually comes with a better delivery system but I do know that the longer you DIY the less flavoring percentage you begin to use in your mixes.
I DIY and I make my juices to match my tastebuds. I have started with nice sounding recipes, but I inevitably make slight changes.
Yes, their is some initial cost, but so was starting to vape.
Yes, their is some initial cost, but so was starting to vape.
I don’t find it stressful, frustrating at times maybe. The only stressful part is getting down to the dregs of a favorite juice and realizing I haven’t any more made.
I had a hard time finding commercial juice that tasted good. I found one, then it was discontinued.
My diy - not every test is good, but when they are, they’re fabulous.
So, do I lose flavor? Do I compromise? No and no. If I don’t love it, I don’t vape it. I give a lot of juice away because usually someone else will love what I don’t.
Plus, aside from saving money, no shopping all over to find exactly what I want pg/vg and nic wise in my favorite flavors.
And I get that it’s not for everyone, but it’s working like a charm for me.
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