B&M that build for inexperienced vapers...

[Say10]

We're going to see a lot more of this unfortunately. vape shops are about to become the next big thing but a majority of them will be owned by people trying to make a profit. Not owners concerned about educating people young and old about the potential dangers involved in building a sub ohm device and allowing people to slowly progress into becoming more advanced users.

I'm a noob myself and started with a protank, moved onto an aerotank before progressing to rba's. I researched, read/watched EVERYTHING I could find on building, ohms law and battery safety before I considered building a coil. I'm also 40 years old and looking forward to turning 41 with all my fingers intact.

Business is business and most just want to make as much as they can quickly. I seek out quality shops with knowledgable staffs that want to see this industry go.


In Phoenix I'd recommend AZ Vape Club or Vape Central. In the Chicagoland area I could also give 2 thumbs up to Cigtech in Algonquin and Vape in Humboldt Park. Aside from those 4 places I've been very disappointed in the shops I've visited. Very very unqualified people working there.

 

[TrolleyVW]

We're going to see a lot more of this unfortunately. Vape shops are about to become the next big thing but a majority of them will be owned by people trying to make a profit. Not owners concerned about educating people young and old about the potential dangers involved in building a sub ohm device and allowing people to slowly progress into becoming more advanced users.

I'm a noob myself and started with a protank, moved onto an aerotank before progressing to RBA's. I researched, read/watched EVERYTHING I could find on building, ohms law and battery safety before I considered building a coil. I'm also 40 years old and looking forward to turning 41 with all my fingers intact.

Business is business and most just want to make as much as they can quickly. I seek out quality shops with knowledgable staffs that want to see this industry go.


In Phoenix I'd recommend AZ Vape Club or Vape Central. In the Chicagoland area I could also give 2 thumbs up to Cigtech in Algonquin and Vape in Humboldt Park. Aside from those 4 places I've been very disappointed in the shops I've visited. Very very unqualified people working there.

Same here with the research part. I did not want to get in to what seemed like something so intricate and difficult until I actually experienced it.

There's few shops in Buffalo that I would trust with new information.

I think that vaping, like many things out there, will always be taken to the extreme and portray a certain image. With that image, there will always be "wannabes", at least that's how I've known those kind of people as, and those "wannabes" are the ones that will skip the small steps and try to dive right in to what that "cool guy on YouTube" was doing.

 

[ILoveNorCal]

Same here with the research part. I did not want to get in to what seemed like something so intricate and difficult until I actually experienced it.

There's few shops in Buffalo that I would trust with new information.

I think that vaping, like many things out there, will always be taken to the extreme and portray a certain image. With that image, there will always be "wannabes", at least that's how I've known those kind of people as, and those "wannabes" are the ones that will skip the small steps and try to dive right in to what that "cool guy on YouTube" was doing.

I'm afraid that I fall into the age bracket of most of these uneducated cloud chasing yahoos... however, I am proud to say that never in my 21 years have I seen some guy's YouTube video and thought that guy was "cool"

 

[young gotti]

a few of us at work joke about a local b&m that opened near us, it's basically the only one around where i live

the guys who own it seem to have good intentions but i went in to check it out with a mech mod and they had no idea what that was, asking me where i adjust the voltage and wattage, i wanted a simple coil for one of my clearomizers and they didn't understand why i didn't want a 2.8ohm coil for a mechanical mod....had to explain it to them

i'm sure they have zero idea what an rba is at this point....they are making money hand over fist from what i understand selling mvps and twists to everyone who walks in

but on a side note: i probably pay ppl to make coils for me, i just don't have time, when i do have time i'll slap something on a rba and use it but i'm rarly in a rush to rebuild a new coil, just no time to build new coils all the time

 

[Vermonster13]

Kind of like when all the gourmet coffee shops started popping up.

 

[xBlackRobx]

IMO a B&M that builds coils for someone needs their head examened, and had better have some damn good insurance.

'I will show you how, but you will need to build your own' is the only way it should be done for legal reasons.

I would imagine that we will always have shops that know how, and shops that only think they know how.

It should be required that you show your knowledge of battery safety, safe build practice and knowledge of the ohms law and safe battery knowledge amongst being able to know different things between products.. Sad, I don't see that shop going far anytime soon with the people that are working there.

My local B&M not only makes someone sign a waiver (written in true legalese) when a customer wants a build done on their equipment, but also go over the importance of battery safety, regular maintenance and cleaning of equipment, etc etc whenever they set someone up on a dripping or genny style build. From what I gather they've only ever had an issue with one customer, out of thousands.

 

[TrolleyVW]

a few of us at work joke about a local b&m that opened near us, it's basically the only one around where i live

the guys who own it seem to have good intentions but i went in to check it out with a mech mod and they had no idea what that was, asking me where i adjust the voltage and wattage, i wanted a simple coil for one of my clearomizers and they didn't understand why i didn't want a 2.8ohm coil for a mechanical mod....had to explain it to them

i'm sure they have zero idea what an rba is at this point....they are making money hand over fist from what i understand selling mvps and twists to everyone who walks in

but on a side note: i probably pay ppl to make coils for me, i just don't have time, when i do have time i'll slap something on a rba and use it but i'm rarly in a rush to rebuild a new coil, just no time to build new coils all the time

That's pretty much how the shop I worked at was, only selling itastes and egos. I think you need places that only sell to the beginner as to not overwhelm them but to not know anything about anything else at all is almost ignorant.

Don't even get me started on my old shop's owner.

I actually just went to a shop yesterday where they know me as an advanced user. I walked in and there was some 18 year old kid bragging to some 15 year old looking girl about how much vapor his device makes. I asked him what he uses and he said it had 3 posts. I asked him the build in it and he says he's "only good at dual coils". Ask him to show me, he doesn't have it. I ten show him my build (dual 26g 7wrap micros) on my helios and he asked questions like "how do you do that", "why are they so tight together like that", and "have you ever tried cotton". Then the owner comes out and talks me up to him. After he hears I know what I'm doing for the most part, I ask him if he builds for other people. Of course, he said yes...

I don't know enough about the intricacies of insurance coverage in this type of situation but I would imagine having a legal waiver signed should be enough. Even so, the builder should still have the know how to create the waiver in the first place.

 

[1wildman]

my local shop is awesome... they offer at least one monthly rebuilding class and bring in free pizza. They go over all the battery safety and how to stuff. They will assist you as you build your coils. They wont do sub-ohm for others. They do make you sign a waiver if you buy any advanced gear. I was chatting up a guy at one of the classes and he told me that they sent him away the first time he wanted to purchase a mech ...told him to do some research and come back. Pretty cool shop, I have almost 30 years on all the employees and most of their customers but they really cool and patient with this old guy. Maybe a few comments when i whip out my reading glasses to attach my coils...lol

 

[LEDBETTER122]

Really if you know what you’re doing vaping is not dangerous at all. With the right type of batteries to meet the needs (Amp wise) of your coil, everything is gravy from there.

I don't flinch every time I fire a freshly built .30 Ohm for the first time, because I know my Sony 30A batteries can take the load.

Granted you need a meter (my Vamo works fine) and you need to know the basics about shorts and Ohms. I was no means an expert on building when I started Sub-Ohm.

Sub-Ohm coils are overly stated as dangerous, and they are......unless you have a Legit 30A battery, with a Legit 30A battery Sub-Ohm is just as dangerous as vaping with an Ego.

Vape within your batteries limits and everything will be fine.

 

[IIKEVOII]

I stay out of my local B&M's. Theres 6 in my town and one sells the simple things like egos, regulated, and easy going tanks. The others sway new comers to mechs and then toss them an ICR batt or efest. A guy i work with, i started him on my vamo and a protank, went in for some heads and they tried getting him into mechs. And a woman that is in karate with my kids came one evening and said "look at my new k100!" I took the batt out and there it was, damn no name ICR 18350.

One of the most prominent shops in our state did this. As ive heard from someone who works there that they cut their juice with alcohol.

As ive been making my own juice for about 1 year now i have absolutely no reason to go in these places anymore and try to keep people i know out of them as well.

 

[ILoveNorCal]

A guy i work with, i started him on my vamo and a protank

I wish someone would have started me off with a Vamo and a Protank... I had to discover it for myself.. through a long road of cigalikes, egos, and internet shopping.

 

[IIKEVOII]

I started with an ego kit from totally wicked i bought from my tattoo artists shop. I moved up the same ladder now im spending an obscene amount of money on high end mechs, tanks, and vv/vw. Im not saying to go that far but its hard not to when you have a hobby like this.