[B]Tip to vape store owners!! [/B]

[Myk]

Nope. Its called common courtesy. I don't carry around copies of studies with me to justify my personal choices nor do I expect non vapers to read them so that they will feel better about what I'm choosing to do. As far as other pollutants, I don't care if they have a .... lab setup in their rumpus room.... I'm not doing it.

If you think its totally benign you are kidding yourself. I know for a fact that if I get a high nicotine content liquid and hit it really hard a few times then I'm going to get light headed. If I continue to hit it hard I'm going to get a headache. Thats why they sell various levels, so that we can adjust our nicotine intake to our personal preference. How many comments here have you seen about vapers dropping nicotine levels because of a new device they were using or the sub ohm coils they just twisted were delivering too much nicotine for them? Do you honestly believe that all of that is absorbed before you exhale?

Obviously something to that and I don't need a study to prove it to me. Personal observations are plenty for me.

So as a matter of common courtesy I have decided that I won't be subjecting anyone to my second hand vape without their consent. I will never subject a child to my second hand vape under any avoidable circumstance. Some things I just won't do.

Someone who has their kids in an ecig store with a vaping lounge obviously isn't expecting people to not vape.
You wouldn't be avoiding vaping around the kids out of common courtesy, you would avoid it because you've been conditioned to think of yourself as a smoker and vapor as second hand smoke (which was proven to not be dangerous but those results were lied about, BTW).

That whole post has nothing to do with anything said here. It is simply you trying to justify irrational behavior with the claim of courtesy.

This is what I believe about what is being exhaled, http://publichealth.drexel.edu/SiteData/docs/ms08/f90349264250e603/ms08.pdf
"Conclusions
By the standards of occupational hygiene, current data do not indicate that exposures to vapers from contaminants in electronic cigarettes warrant a concern.
There are no known toxicological synergies among compounds in the aerosol, and mixture of the contaminants does not pose a risk to health."
"The cautions about propylene glycol and glycerin apply only to the exposure experienced by the vapers themselves.
Exposure of bystanders to the listed ingredients, let alone the contaminants, does not warrant a concern as the exposure is likely to be orders of magnitude lower than exposure experienced by vapers"

I don't carry that around with me to justify vaping around people. Common courtesy is if someone has a problem with it I move.
It has nothing to do with common courtesy if you choose to ignore the research and treat vapor as second hand smoke. It has nothing to do with courtesy for you to say, "Kids and vape shops shouldn't mix."

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

Just out of curiosity what is the "occupational exposure limit" for the various chemicals associated with e-cigarettes for toddlers?

The study you linked to focuses on adults who willingly use the product.

 

[Amd6547]

Those of you complaining about poor customer service should really try being on the other side of the counter. I have been in retail for a lot of years. I mostly enjoy it, and I have a high customer service ethic, and work in a retail environment ( non-vape related) that encourages it.
While there are many great customers in my store, people I can talk to and relate to, there are many who are just miserable, dispicable human beings.
It takes all kinds, they say...and working in retail, you certainly meet all kinds.
BTW, I sell steel toed work boots for a living. The stories I could tell concerning whiny customers and unreasonable returns would shock you.

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

Those of you complaining about poor customer service should really try being on the other side of the counter.

I did a short stint as manager of a restaurant. Hated every minute of it and was on a fast track to give me ulcers. I was SO not cut out for that line of work.

 

[EvilZoe]

I always thought that if kids were required to spend a year in retail before they could graduate high school this country would be a better place. People would go into adulthood with a sense of respect for others doing the jobs on the customer service front lines and the stores wouldn't be trashed nearly so badly...lol

 

[Fulgurant]

I did a short stint as manager of a restaurant. Hated every minute of it and was on a fast track to give me ulcers. I was SO not cut out for that line of work.

I've often thought that the world would be a much friendlier place if everyone were required to spend a few months working in a restaurant.

 

[Fulgurant]

I always thought that if kids were required to spend a year in retail before they could graduate high school this country would be a better place. People would go into adulthood with a sense of respect for others doing the jobs on the customer service front lines and the stores wouldn't be trashed nearly so badly...lol

Get out of my head, Patsy!!!

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

I always thought that if kids were required to spend a year in retail before they could graduate high school this country would be a better place. People would go into adulthood with a sense of respect for others doing the jobs on the customer service front lines and the stores wouldn't be trashed nearly so badly...lol

I've often thought that the world would be a much friendlier place if everyone were required to spend a few months working in a restaurant.

Nothing like having been on the receiving end before you start dishing it out as a customer. We'd get the odd crank that couldn't be pleased no matter what and we ALWAYS breathed a collective sigh of relief when they declared they were never coming back.

 

[EvilZoe]

Nothing like having been on the receiving end before you start dishing it out as a customer. We'd get the odd crank that couldn't be pleased no matter what and we ALWAYS breathed a collective sigh of relief when they declared they were never coming back.

I was ten years in retail management. They used to call me for the tough ones because I'm just THAT good. lol

 

[Fulgurant]

I was ten years in retail management. They used to call me for the tough ones because I'm just THAT good. lol

 

[Zealous]

Nice post. We have one just like that here in Ga. Employees vaping and building thier own while talking to customers. I havent been back
They used to be the only show in town. Now they are surrounded by good clean competition.

...and which shop is that one again please? *pulls out notebook to cross that one off list*

 

[Myk]

Just out of curiosity what is the "occupational exposure limit" for the various chemicals associated with e-cigarettes for toddlers?

The study you linked to focuses on adults who willingly use the product.

First vape stores are no place for a kid and now the exact same argument the ANTZ used against that study.
Glantz vs. Burstyn – hardly a fair fight | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

So you believe that somehow the vapor gets magnitudes worse after it's exhaled???
You might want to start paying attention and decide which side you are on.

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

First vape stores are no place for a kid and now the exact same argument the ANTZ used against that study.
Glantz vs. Burstyn – hardly a fair fight | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

So you believe that somehow the vapor gets magnitudes worse after it's exhaled???
You might want to start paying attention and decide which side you are on.

So you don't know what the "occupational exposure limit" for the various chemicals associated with e-cigarettes for toddlers is?

You presumed to tell me what my motivations are for not vaping around children, I figured you would have all the answers. Guess not.