Back To Basics...

[FunkyVapes]

Sooo, lets see here. I have been vaping for about 5 months now, moving my way through 510s, eGos, SP2s, an Infinity, a Buzz, a Diamante, and now my GGTS.

I use my GGTS exclusively now, unless I am after a very specific voltage for a review video. I have tried various atomizers and cartomizers in my GGTS and settled on 3.0 ohm Boge Cartos at 6V. I have Several sets of TrustFire and Tenergy 3.2 and 3V batteries, but I only get about 4 hours vape time out of each set and it drives me nuts.

A couple weeks ago, I bought an iAtty and started my quest to nail a 1.5-1.7 ohm coil so I could use my chunky 18650 batteries all day. It took me about a week, and roughly $30.00 worth of materials to finally get to my sweet spot, but the coils only lasted a few days before they started to become ineffective to the point where I didn't enjoy my vape.

I have decided to sell my iAtty and what is left of my materials (be on the lookout on the classifieds if you are interested).

So now, I am back to square one. I am getting little to no battery life out of my Mod, which is why I switched to Mods in the first place, and in order to get to my sweet spot, I am stuck using cartos, which doesn't really suit my needs in terms of refilling.

Has anyone had better luck at 6V in terms of battery life, if so, what brand do you use?

Also, do you think I will find any haven in a UFS at 3.7V and an LR atomizer? I feel as though I have placed myself in a position where only 6V will do, which is a shame because I can't get the battery life I want.

Sorry for the ramblings, thanks for any suggestions...

 

[FunkyVapes]

Also, What would you guys recommend for 18650 batteries?

I read this thread, but it just confused me:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...8650-2900mah-vs-18650-1600mah-high-drain.html

I guess I really want to try the UFS with a LR 510 atty and 18650, wondering which Atty and Battery I should use for the best performance.

 

[Psychomaster]

I believe that for a LR atomizer, the AW IMR 18650's are supposed to be the best, but they have less run time on them. I use AW IMR 18650's and get a very nice amount of life from them, but I run them at 7.4v (2 of em at once) so they go with my Iatty to make a crazy experience. Honestly, I love my AW IMR way more than I liked the trustfires, but that is because I think the GGTS breaks trustfire batteries (crushes the PCB) when I use it. The AW IMR have no PCB to crush.

As for an atty, I only bought the LR 510 bulk packs from vaporkings. They worked good, but there are probably better (i.e. more expensive) ones out there.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Honestly, I love my AW IMR way more than I liked the trustfires, but that is because I think the GGTS breaks trustfire batteries (crushes the PCB) when I use it. The AW IMR have no PCB to crush.

As for an atty, I only bought the LR 510 bulk packs from vaporkings. They worked good, but there are probably better (i.e. more expensive) ones out there.

I'm a wee-bit ignorant here, what exactly is the PCB? Is it the positive terminal "bump" or post on top of the battery?

Also, thanks for the reply to get me started

 

[raceengine]

it's the protective circuitry on the protected batteries and since IMR is a safecell battery it doesn't need a protection like on li-ions thus it came without this circuit.

 

[Torqueguy]

Seaweed
Your history mirrors mine except over 6 months. I cannot do 3.7V either. Flavorful but I need the warmth of the vapor which I why I only do 6v (actually 8.4). I use the Clouds of Vapor 1.5~2 ohm dual coils fired by dual red AW 18350's and i'm getting a whole day out of them. I had no luck with the Iatty. Great machine, well made and a work of art but I'm too clumsy to make a good coil for HV so I traded it out for an AVS. I think the new Iatty will be better so I'll get one of those for sure

 

[FunkyVapes]

it's the protective circuitry on the protected batteries and since IMR is a safecell battery it doesn't need a protection like on li-ions thus it came without this circuit.

Awesome! Thanks for the info!

Seaweed
Your history mirrors mine except over 6 months. I cannot do 3.7V either. Flavorful but I need the warmth of the vapor which I why I only do 6v (actually 8.4). I use the Clouds of Vapor 1.5~2 ohm dual coils fired by dual red AW 18350's and i'm getting a whole day out of them. I had no luck with the Iatty. Great machine, well made and a work of art but I'm too clumsy to make a good coil for HV so I traded it out for an AVS. I think the new Iatty will be better so I'll get one of those for sure

It's a curse we have to bear...8.4V with 1.5-2.0 ohms?! You're a pioneer dude! Unless you meant 7.4, but that still seems like a kicker. Do your cartos run out super quick or develop odd tastes?

I wish there was a way to straight-up trade my iAtty for a UFS, but I think I can get what I paid for the iAtty and materials which should equal out to about the cost of a new UFS.

 

[fright88]

It may be possible in a week or 2 to trade your iAtty for a UFS. It happened a bit when iAtty first came out. The rarity is the main thing driving up UFS prices right now but hopefully the release of a new batch will help that a bit.

 

[Moshmarr]

About runtime on 6v, I haven't found any batteries, unfortunately, that last any longer
than what you've described at 6V, except lifepo 18650's (COV LiFePo4 18650 3.0v 1400mAh Rechargable Bat) stacked with extensions..it's a limitation, though, at that voltage.
18650's are the all-day vapers, but it's just a matter of finding something that will satisfy you at 3.7, tough for me too-

sorry you're having troubles w/ the iAtty, BTW.
I found that I had to go ultra-low ohm with the iAtty
to get something approximating the 5-6V feeling, at 1.0 ohm right now.
It's a great vape w/ a AW high drain 18350 on the Stealth,
and I think the higher heat allows more complete vaporization
and less caramelization of juice on the wick,
but I still have to clean every 4 days as it does get really gunked up.
I just rinse it out with hot water, allow to dry some, and give it a blast at 6v
pulsing the button until I get a good coil glow.
One more rinse and it's good to go for 4 more days or so...

I was used to it though, as my juice seems to gunk up any atty I use in about this timeframe though, be it a 510LR or an iAtty- until the self cleaning atty is released (we'e waiting lol)

With a 3-3.5 ohm coil, the iAtty is amazing @6V, btw.
Note that dryburning the wick is IMO not recommended with the original
fiberglass wick that was sent w/ the iAtty, the material seems to melt a bit
and can no longer wick properly. The replacement CE2 wick
that Imeo sourced is much better and can be torched or dryburned back to white- iAtty Wick

If you like those Boge 3ohm cartos, you'll love them in a UFS at 6V too.
COV has 3ohm dual coils too, but no personal experience
as I only do attys, for the most part. The UFS does seem to help any atty or carto last longer as they are always bathed in juice and refilling is kept to a minimum as well.
Lots of carto tanks out there, but I do love my UFS

 

[Poppa D]

I've been using my iatty at 4ohm to 4.5ohm and using 2 18350 at 7.4 volts. My batteries seem to last longer. With out getting into the technic details, the iatty makes almost any thing possible with little effort and expense. It's unfortunate the wicks are short lived, and create some extra effort.

 

[Torqueguy]

Awesome! Thanks for the info!




It's a curse we have to bear...8.4V with 1.5-2.0 ohms?! You're a pioneer dude! Unless you meant 7.4, but that still seems like a kicker. Do your cartos run out super quick or develop odd tastes?

I wish there was a way to straight-up trade my iAtty for a UFS, but I think I can get what I paid for the iAtty and materials which should equal out to about the cost of a new UFS.

They're dual coils so the cumulative resistance is 3.0 ~ 4.0 They work great for me and so far, the COV's haven't burned out nearly as quick as others

 

[Darth Octane]

I have just one thing to say about batteries. Dump the Tenergies and Trustfires and ultrafires. I will only buy one battery brand going forward. That is AW. I have run lots of comparisons and I do not have time to post them all here. But let me tell you the AW is hands down the best battery you can get. if you want 3.7 go with the IMR (red) 18650. For 6v go with the Blue Life po's and for 7.4v go with the IMR (red) 18350. Trust me you will not regret it. I have had people pull other brands of battereis out of their mods and handed them an AW to put in it and they have all noticed a difference.

 

[wfarrar33]

FWIW im loving the LR attys in the UFS and i typically vaped between 5 & 6v before this

 

[inquisitorj]

Darth Octane is absolutely correct about the batts. I used to use Tenergy and Trustfire, .... I will only use AW from now on. They have a much truer mah rating. Here are my favorite setups that I believe you may enjoy as well.

AVS with 3.0 ohm punched 808 carto and 2 AW LiFeP04 3.2v batts. This setup lasts most of the day for me.
UFS with 4.5 or 5 ohm joye 510 atty and 2 AW IMR 18350 3.7v batts. This setup lasts me all day. This setup can be a touch more finicky, but you can be dialed in perfectly. I want to try some COV dual coil 510's in this next.

Are you using the adapters on your GGTS so that you can retain the air control on your UFS? If you are, I would suggest getting yourself a liquinator standard size tank with slotted 3.0 boge cartos. Get yourself some AW liFeP04 3.2v batts and you will have a poor man's AVS, using 510's. I do not think that you will be disappointed. This should give you the hit you love, but last all day. You may want to carry 1 spare set of batts for a whole day out, but it should last you till you get home.

My GF is a very heavy vaper and she uses the AVS at 6v all day, and she doesn't usually have to change the batts till she gets home.

 

[keduco]

I use AW 18650 high drains with 1.5 LR in my UFS... I need to refill my juice before the battery dies. I vape about 5-6ml a day and the AW's last.

 

[FunkyVapes]

I have just one thing to say about batteries. Dump the Tenergies and Trustfires and ultrafires. I will only buy one battery brand going forward. That is AW. I have run lots of comparisons and I do not have time to post them all here. But let me tell you the AW is hands down the best battery you can get. if you want 3.7 go with the IMR (red) 18650. For 6v go with the Blue Life po's and for 7.4v go with the IMR (red) 18350. Trust me you will not regret it. I have had people pull other brands of battereis out of their mods and handed them an AW to put in it and they have all noticed a difference.

Thanks for weighing in, my friend. I received a PM telling me the same thing. Looks like I'll be stocking up on various AW batteries from now on. Hopefully they'll still charge in my Trustfire multicharger.

Are you using the adapters on your GGTS so that you can retain the air control on your UFS? If you are, I would suggest getting yourself a liquinator standard size tank with slotted 3.0 boge cartos. Get yourself some AW liFeP04 3.2v batts and you will have a poor man's AVS, using 510's. I do not think that you will be disappointed. This should give you the hit you love, but last all day. You may want to carry 1 spare set of batts for a whole day out, but it should last you till you get home.

My GF is a very heavy vaper and she uses the AVS at 6v all day, and she doesn't usually have to change the batts till she gets home.

Thanks for your reply as well. I haven't bought a UFS yet, but I was under the impression that I didn't need adapters and that the UFS had its own air control. Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I will be purchasing the new UFS, not sure if that makes any difference.

Thanks again to everyone for contributing to my quest.

 

[silentt]

You don't need adapters for the UFS to go on the ggts. It has its own control tank as well, if you have a ggts the ufs is perfect for you.

 

[FunkyVapes]

You don't need adapters for the UFS to go on the ggts. It has its own control tank as well, if you have a ggts the ufs is perfect for you.

Thought so, thanks dude



Has anyone been using their GGTS with a 4.8V battery? If so, can you offer any tips/brands/charging procedures.

 

[inquisitorj]

Thanks for weighing in, my friend. I received a PM telling me the same thing. Looks like I'll be stocking up on various AW batteries from now on. Hopefully they'll still charge in my Trustfire multicharger.



Thanks for your reply as well. I haven't bought a UFS yet, but I was under the impression that I didn't need adapters and that the UFS had its own air control. Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I will be purchasing the new UFS, not sure if that makes any difference.

Thanks again to everyone for contributing to my quest.

To clarify here, The adapters are for tanks like the liquinator or DCC map tank. They attach like the Iatty. The UFS needs no adapters and replaces the whole top connector catch tank part of you TS.

 

[FunkyVapes]

To clarify here, The adapters are for tanks like the liquinator or DCC map tank. They attach like the Iatty. The UFS needs no adapters and replaces the whole top connector catch tank part of you TS.

Ah, gotcha. I do have several sets of adapters I used with the iAtty, I'll hold onto them just in case.