back to the beginning :D
- Thread starter mattiem
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Another way of looking at it is that the manufacturers of Tanks and Mods are looking to continuously improve the vaping experience. Higher Wattage Mods and tanks producing more voluminous vapor and guzzling the juice are becoming more popular because many enjoy the intense vapor production. The side effect is the need to consume more juice. I don't think it's the intention.
I've switched from Mechanical Bottom Feeding [Dripping] to a higher[not highest] 50 Watts on my Cloupor Gt 80 and a Crown Sub Ohm Tank and really enjoy this juice guzzling setup.
Premade Tanks with vertical coil technology have improved to the point where they are as good or better then dripping[Arguably]
Luckily I DIY my own juice or I'd probably be in the poor house!
Last edited:
Kinda like vapers and these prebuilt coils of questionable metal and quality.
Cheap and easy...and so very popular.
From a pic?This is a coil wrapped for an A7, tell me, did I wrap it myself, or was it wrapped in China?
Sure.
As soon as you can positively verify the material used to make the $. 02 coil.
Lol
Some people find what they like and are stunned to find everyone isn't in lock step with them.
If you say you vape at 20000+ watts and consume 100ml a day tears start to fly out there eyes. Through the tears teeth and fingernails come out and they start banging on keyboards screaming about "cause cloudz bro".
Sometime later, with eyes dried, many at floored by the fact that its none of there business what others do.
Then in stunned silence they realize they can still vape the way they want without worrying about others.
Personally I vape off a homemade mod plugged into a dyer socket. I'm pulling 30amps at 220 volts and I inhale several gallons of e-juice a day. Some I mix in large vats stirred with an electric D-handled drill but I buy a 1000 or so ml a day.
I could also drive a Prius with tootle puffer engine but I prefer a giant V8 in my full size pickup.
If you say you vape at 20000+ watts and consume 100ml a day tears start to fly out there eyes. Through the tears teeth and fingernails come out and they start banging on keyboards screaming about "cause cloudz bro".
Sometime later, with eyes dried, many at floored by the fact that its none of there business what others do.
Then in stunned silence they realize they can still vape the way they want without worrying about others.
Personally I vape off a homemade mod plugged into a dyer socket. I'm pulling 30amps at 220 volts and I inhale several gallons of e-juice a day. Some I mix in large vats stirred with an electric D-handled drill but I buy a 1000 or so ml a day.
I could also drive a Prius with tootle puffer engine but I prefer a giant V8 in my full size pickup.
I believe these coils are made from nichrom. So?Kinda like vapers and these prebuilt coils of questionable metal and quality.
Cheap and easy...and so very popular.
From a pic?
Sure.
As soon as you can positively verify the material used to make the $. 02 coil.
Lol
Both kanthal and nichrom are relatively cheap and easy to make.
Not a problem at all. You can do whatever you want to do.
A problem - if you start to preach that your way is the best way to vape. That high-volume is so much better and so on. And we see it on ECF many times a day (not from you, of course).
But fortunately there are those, kinda like me, that have found what works for them and just hope others can also find what works for them. Doesn't matter if it is a cig-a-like or a 2000 watt set-up. For most, the goal is to give up the smokes or lose weight or calm nerves or whatever the reason. Vape it the way you like it folks and cheer those that chose a different path to the same destination.
Buy ready made coils or build your own. Do it your way and don't let anyone tell you your way is wrong if it works for you. Vape low nic juice and go through gallons of it if that is what works for you. Go low ohm or super low ohm or go high. If it works for you then it isn't the wrong way to do it. There is no right or wrong. There is just what works for you.
OK ---- Off my soapbox----Carry on
But fortunately there are those, kinda like me, that have found what works for them and just hope others can also find what works for them. Doesn't matter if it is a cig-a-like or a 2000 watt set-up. For most, the goal is to give up the smokes or lose weight or calm nerves or whatever the reason. Vape it the way you like it folks and cheer those that chose a different path to the same destination.
Buy ready made coils or build your own. Do it your way and don't let anyone tell you your way is wrong if it works for you. Vape low nic juice and go through gallons of it if that is what works for you. Go low ohm or super low ohm or go high. If it works for you then it isn't the wrong way to do it. There is no right or wrong. There is just what works for you.
OK ---- Off my soapbox----Carry on
I agree completely with all that, with just one exception: if someone comes to the forum complaining about their lungs are bothering them, in whatever fashion... then throw in that they're vaping 100% VG on a .1 ohm coil on a mod set to 200w... and when you point out to them that, very clearly, their body cannot handle that amount of vapor, they just freak the hell out, as if getting angry and defensive is going to give their body some capacity that it doesn't now possess and probably never will.
It does not matter in the slightest if other people can handle massive whipped cream clouds -- if your body can't, then it just can't, and trying to make it do so is going to cause you a world of hurt, and possibly a stay in the hospital... if you're lucky; if you're not lucky, then better get some good life insurance, because breathing is pretty much mandatory.
A lot of us tootle-puffers vape that way because we have no choice, that is what our bodies can tolerate, and we're wise enough to pay heed to danger signs like not being able to breathe. Anyone who'd like to continue breathing really needs to pay heed to their own lungs.
The fact that vaping is less dangerous than smoking doesn't mean it's a free pass to treat your lungs even worse than cigarettes did.
Andria
I guess I should have highlighted "If it works for you" If they are having breathing problems then it isn't working for them. 
If they are having breathing problems then it isn't working for them.
I guess I should have highlighted "If it works for you"
I've seen quite a few of those threads now; apparently the fact that vaping that way has freed them from smoking, to them, means it's working fine -- they're completely overlooking the constraints of their own flesh.
There are some things you can condition your body for -- exercise, pain, even eating... but conditioning your body to accept massive thick clouds of vapor... somehow I just don't see that happening.
And of course there ARE those who can vape that way, and have no problems at all, so the clowns will throw in the adolescent argument, "well so-and-so does it that way..." which is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT -- so-and-so doesn't have YOUR body!
Andria
And then accuse others of "tears start to fly out there eyes. Through the tears teeth and fingernails come out and they start banging on keyboards screaming about "cause cloudz bro". When someone says .... But you don't have to vape that way if you don't want to.
Kinda like vapers and these prebuilt coils of questionable metal and quality.
Cheap and easy...and so very popular.
From a pic?
Sure.
As soon as you can positively verify the material used to make the $. 02 coil.
Lol
Why would they not be Nichrome (as advertised) when NiChrome is the cheapest.
If they lied and used non resistant wire, it would be obvious the moment you turned on your ohm reader.
Last edited:
Their intention? the only imaginable intention in business is "sell more of it". They are not the good samaritans wanting to improve your enjoyment, it is quite the other way round: they convince you that "more of the same" *is* your enjoyment.
If they make a 40 watt box and two month later a 60 watt box - don't tell me this means enhanced enjoyment, most people never use this high wattage and if there are people who do, then that is what I would call a "side effect". Beginners buy these boxes because they are the newest development. I talked to an unexperienced vaper today who used eGo batteries for a long time and wanted to upgrade now. He said: "I will buy the 75 watt box, not the 40 or 60 watt because then, I am better equipped for future atomizers". Well ... no idea if he likes masses of hot clouds, no idea what these amounts of watt imply for atomizers - but this "the future is 'more' and 'more' implies 'better'" - it works. And sells more liquid, of course. Liquids are core business, because recurrent business. The equipment for it is just a helping hand.
I agree they are not good Samaritans, it's good business to improve vaping products and influence Vapers to buy or upgrade their equipment.
Most of the equipment manufacturers don't sell juice. So not sure why you think the APV manufacturers care about juice consumption.
BTW Moving up from an Ego to the next rig, why not skip a few steps and buy higher then what you think you'll need.? Makes sense to me.
Specially since the devices are so reasonably priced.
Currently enjoying a Vape at 60 Watts on my Cloupor GT 80 [80 Watt Device] on a Crown Tank Dual Coils SS .25Ohm
and it's a fine vape!
You are right, it was a simplification, they care primarily about people buying new stuff all over again. But those who definitely care about liquids are the vendors/shops and they comply in that they seem to push bloody beginners too in that direction. If you watch what kind of new products appear on the market, typical beginners' starter sets, simple to handle, not much to regulate: not much to see in terms of new devices. I think this is how the interests of manufacturers and vendors meet.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked