baffled by response to vaping need help how to deal with it

[Blooper]

I was vaping away happily in restaurant (no issues with employees or the owner who was there). A person I know came along with a friend of mine and was appalled by the ecig. She would not listen to me about it. Convinced it was the EXACT SAME thing as smoking and worse and that only serious drug addicts use it for other extremely hard drugs and it has been around since the early 90's in use by hard drug users. WTF. Is she ......ed? No matter what I said or where I told her to research she wouldn't listen. This went on for 20 minutes before my friend told us both to shut it. How do you deal with someone like this? Oh and shes a smoker.

 

[SLDS181]

She's a smoker? Thats why.

She doesn't want to hear it, she doesn't want to try it, she wants to shut out anything that would change her view.

Just smile and say think what you'd like, I'm in great health. Then move on. If she presses, just keep smiling and saying "Well I feel fantastic". Ruin her night a little.

Or let a good non-smoker friend see, learn the truth, and then that friend can harass her about it for funsies.

 

[catwoman19]

Blooper,
I have gotten this reaction also. One thing I have noticed, it is always from a smoker and I think it all has to do with being jealous that we can vape inside and they can't smoke.

 

[jj2]

I carry a printed copy of the comparison between FDA approved stop smoking items, e liquid and certain brands of cigarettes.
Don't have to say a word, they read and there is nothing they can argue with.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

She doesn't want to hear it, she doesn't want to try it, she wants to shut out anything that would change her view.

So she was a republican then?

 

[wellfedned]

They say ignorance is bliss. People like her are content to go through life without ever having to consider other points of view. I think she is in the minority as I'm always vaping in public and other than a few curious looks have never had a negative response. Don't worry about her she's content in her closed minded world and she will never consider any other view.

 

[thewomenfolk]

She sounds very defensive. Maybe she's has to defend herself a lot for being a smoker. So maybe just introducing the e-cig to her might make her think you're trying to get her to quit that nasty ole habit. Obviously she hasn't suffered enough yet from smoking to be looking for an alternative.

I think most smokers would at least be curious and happy about the e-cig, if not for themselves, maybe for others. Don't worry about her, each to his own.

 

[commentluv]

I get either this reaction or a complete convert to ecigs from smokers. I put it down to the smoker being a scared little wimp! It's always the same, "you don't know what chemicals you're inhaling" as opposed to the 1000's of known chemicals you're inhaling. It's an easy way to get out of having to try and fail (again) to stop using the tobacco.

I can't change how someone reacts but I can change how I react to their reaction (if you know what I mean) and I've found that being overly polite without being sarcastic usually pisses all over their fireworks! like SLSDS181 says, just say you're happy with it and it feels great for you and leave it at that. No opening for a zealot to get on their high horse and start a fight like discussion.

I am going to start carrying an information card with an affiliate link on it to give to people to explain what I'm doing and see if I can make some money off converting people to a longer life without tabacco!

 

[SLDS181]

I think most smokers would at least be curious and happy about the e-cig, if not for themselves, maybe for others. Don't worry about her, each to his own.

My gf's sister's friend is a smoker - we were all having dinner at the gf's parents house, and I was about to do my usual - go outside for a puff (this time, with my 510 ). My gf's dad said "you dont have to go outside with that". It was the first time my gf's sister had seen it.... she's very anti-smoking (like her mother). She LOVED it, thought it was the greatest idea ever, and said to her friend "You need to try that! Go buy one!"

I had enough parts with me to assemble another 510 (or 6, but whatever), so I dropped in some red bull for her, and she tried it out. Also did some menthol dripping since she's a marlboro menthol light smoker... she loved it! So, at the prodding of an anti-smoking friend, she wanted to order one (yes I told her where to go, detailed instructions, and she can always get in touch with questions).

Last I know it was ordered, hasn't arrived yet. But the anti-smoking friend of the defensive smoker can make for an entertaining conversation (especially when the non-smokers are very supportive of the PV)

 

[BenJammin]

She sounds very defensive. Maybe she's has to defend herself a lot for being a smoker. So maybe just introducing the e-cig to her might make her think you're trying to get her to quit that nasty ole habit. Obviously she hasn't suffered enough yet from smoking to be looking for an alternative.

I think most smokers would at least be curious and happy about the e-cig, if not for themselves, maybe for others. Don't worry about her, each to his own.

So true. Most smokers are a little intrigued, but I've noticed a dividing line. FDA drivel to the contrary, it's actually the younger, newer, barely legal smokers that ridicule the device. Those with a decade or more of wear on their lungs are more likely to take a serious look at it, want to try it. They ask the real questions "Where'd you get that? How's it work? What's it cost? Does it satisfy the cravings?" The young punks only want to know if they can smoke their drugs in it. When I tell them "NO!" they lose interest pretty quick and slip back into their IPod induced trances. The non-smokers typically ask me "Does it stink like a cigarette too?" My patent answer to that question always leaves them gaping, "You tell me! I've been vaping on the sly in here all day long. What does your nose tell you it smells like ?" The best reply I ever got to that was "I dunno, cookies?" My first day out with the new Macaroon Mixer recipe I'd been working on, (little too heavy on the coconut)

 

[gashin]

Exactly - my friends my age (22-26) keep smoking cigs and have never tried my vape because they just think it's weird. The older people I know are more open to it. I think one of the factors is that young smokers I know don't want to stick out among other smokers while older people are more eager to share their new discovery with others. The wisdom of age!

So true. Most smokers are a little intrigued, but I've noticed a dividing line. FDA drivel to the contrary, it's actually the younger, newer, barely legal smokers that ridicule the device. Those with a decade or more of wear on their lungs are more likely to take a serious look at it, want to try it. They ask the real questions "Where'd you get that? How's it work? What's it cost? Does it satisfy the cravings?" The young punks only want to know if they can smoke their drugs in it. When I tell them "NO!" they lose interest pretty quick and slip back into their IPod induced trances. The non-smokers typically ask me "Does it stink like a cigarette too?" My patent answer to that question always leaves them gaping, "You tell me! I've been vaping on the sly in here all day long. What does your nose tell you it smells like ?" The best reply I ever got to that was "I dunno, cookies?" My first day out with the new Macaroon Mixer recipe I'd been working on, (little too heavy on the coconut)

 

[RazorNribbonz]

This was really a tough one for me..Specially after the FDA threw out the public scare.. I had concerned friends and haters constantly saying something to me.. At first I tried explaining it all - sounds like a lecture, they shut down....Then I tried the printing info off and just handing it to them.. They never read it

I have Finally found one sentence that I will quote ( I read it somewhere here on the forum)
that usually takes care of most situations from concerned friends/ close minded to the " OMG didn't you hear..those have antifreeze in em" lol

I actually printed it off..Haven't had to use it in a while...Let me see if I cant remember how it goes lol

(I trust my own research and intellect to decide for myself what is good for me - And in the case of 4000+ harmful chemicals in tobacco VS - 3 found in trace amounts in the E-Cig - I'll go with the E-cig)...
I leave it at that... Several instantly started asking questions... It works great

Then theres always Zofryers response to "what is that thing?"> .." It's nicotine without death" lmao..Love it

 

[MaxUT]

So she was a republican then?

Ever see an old Bob Hope movie, The Ghost Breakers?
Hope plays the character Larry...

Geoff: "A zombie has no will of his own. You see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring."
Larry: "You mean like Democrats?"

 

[panderson01]

No, she was a Lib!

So she was a republican then?

 

[Coriakin]

As much as I hate generalizations (especially those based on age), I have to say that most of the smokers in my raiding group either have affected disdain for my "toy cigarette" or told me that they heard that it was just as bad or worse as smoking "real" cigarettes. These guys are about my age or younger, in their early twenties.
My father, however, is in his fifties and has been smoking for around forty years. He was absolutely fascinated by the idea, although a little skeptical that the PV would help him break his habit as easily as it helped me.

Perhaps one of the draws (at least for some people) of the PV is because we were so utterly tired of the negative effects of smoking analogs (price, health concerns, social stigma, etc) that we naturally gravitated towards it? And those who haven't been smoking for as long have yet to get tired of it, so have yet to look for something better.

My apologies for going so far off topic, but this could be (yet another) nail in the coffin of the "PVs are marketed towards children" idea.

 

[JKG]

Perhaps one of the draws (at least for some people) of the PV is because we were so utterly tired of the negative effects of smoking analogs (price, health concerns, social stigma, etc) that we naturally gravitated towards it? And those who haven't been smoking for as long have yet to get tired of it, so have yet to look for something better.

I think you've made a good point. I'm rather surprised as I could expect that reaction from a non-smoker but a smoker? I would think that a smoker would be intrigued by the fact that one can fulfill a nicotine craving or the oral fixation from smoking with a healthier alternative. I myself was immediately enthralled by that fact after I learned about e-cigs from a colleague of mine. But everyone's different, I guess. Or like someone else said, it can be just plain ignorance.

 

[ndstrctbl]

i usually get the "thats so cool" reaction from my friends and other people i meet. and, as stated alot question that get brought up are about the taste, satisfaction and how it works. most people are quite intrigued with the e-cig. i use it in the break room along with my co-worker and we always get looks lol. if i smoker tells me that its worse than smoking, i just usually shrug it off my shoulders.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

She's a smoker? Thats why.

She doesn't want to hear it, she doesn't want to try it, she wants to shut out anything that would change her view.

Just smile and say think what you'd like, I'm in great health. Then move on. If she presses, just keep smiling and saying "Well I feel fantastic". Ruin her night a little.

Or let a good non-smoker friend see, learn the truth, and then that friend can harass her about it for funsies.

What I would expect better from you,,, and the uk guy a couple posts from yours(and everyone else with that mentality). SHES A SMOKER THATS WHY?????? what kind of bs is that? I mean it has only been 33days for you at the time I post this....are you already one of "them" the "neversmokers" oh you must have forgotten....Im sorry OR you never really were much of a smoker so the change over to vaping was nothing

I was a smoker for almost 2 decades and yes I am happy that I vape now, but I remember how it was being a smoker in a smoke free world...
vaping is a choice just like smoking and quit smoking....OH WHAT you are too weak to quite on your own I know alot of people that quit cold turkey.

I could understand from a non smokers ignorance since they don't know the hook smoking has on people..... Yes bloop's friend didn't want to hear it, but it is her OWN CLOSED MINDEDNESS not because she smokes

I am sorry but that was very offensive.. (and I am very thick skinned)

With that kind of counterproductive thinking you are only being just like bloop's friend just on the extreme other end of the scale....

noone is holier than thou then huh?

I still support the smoker's decision
and will support the vaporer's decision should I quit that as well.

So please don't be closed minded as bloop's friend... that is all I ask

 

[Lightgeoduck]

OH sorry bloop to answer your question... don't argue just understand not everyone is going to be excited as you about the vaping idea... you were searching for something and feel this is the path let that person find hers..... you can't change everyone's idea... and it isn't our job to

don't be like a newborn vapor and try to witness and force the vapor god (a little extreme but you get my point)

 

[Blooper]

not my friend duckie. I don't choose to hang around with people with closed minds. lol. Anyway someone said its the younger gen that doesn't take to vapiing. Judging by the age level on this forum I would say you have a point. This girl is in her mid 30's so the argument doesn't hold up with her. I am 28 (29 next month) so i'm not exactly little kid but I took to vaping and started researching as soon as I saw the thing in action. That comment urked me a little. What are your takes on age and vaping? Maybe I should strat a new thread as its a different topic. Ok new thread time. Age and vaping