Bartleby PV review

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Kent C

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are they still making these, and how does it work with the 510 atomizers? do you just screw your atomizer on?

Email cybervex. He stated he'd be off for a while - he had twins and probably is on diaper patrol ;-) But email him... check email at this site:

Bartleby

And yes, you just screw on a 510 atty (although you could get it fit for the 901) and go. Great vapor for hours as it keeps the peak voltage up, unlike regular or mega or even eGo/tornado batts which operate at a much lower voltage relatively @3.0-3.2 vs. 3.7v and when you punch the low ohm 510 into those figures you get a difference in resultant current making the Bartleby a big improvement over the others.
 

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I ordered one, shipped today, should have it wednesday most likely. this will be great, I can vape all friday and saturday night without doing 5 battery changes during my 6 hour movie marathons. although with the extra smoke, i'll probably be getting yelled at more by the wife to stop "smoking" in the house. I keep telling her its vapor, but its like talking to a wall. plus the regular batteries get weak and die, 2 died on me and the others hit for 3 puffs and then get weaker.
 

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Quick question about the Bartleby,

I got mine back in November but only used it a few times here and there since I was being satisfied with my janty stick. I did notice when I first received it that it didn't charge long (meaning the red charging light didn't stay on for over 5 minutes). I just thought that it was probably finished charging and went on my happy way....

But I have recently started using the bartleby device exclusively for the last week and have noticed the same thing is still happening. I plug it in to charge (usb) and the red light either doesn't come on, or it only stays on for a minute and then goes off. I've used it out and about for hours at a time and expected that it would take longer to charge than a minute (comparing to janty stick charging time and other devices). I've tried multiple USB cables and all give the same result. Could it be that this amount of time is all it takes to charge, or would it mean that something may be wrong with my bartleby charging port (or light/other component)?

Thanks for any advice!
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I bought mine a few months ago and use it all the time, it is one of my favorite devices. However, I was noticing the EXACT same thing you were(the unbelievably short charge time) & thought there was NO way it could possibly be recharging a 14500 that fast. Here's what I found; initially(the 1st few Bartleby charges) the charge time is short and the 14500 charges to it's full level(~4.2V). However, if you continually use only the bartleby to do the recharging thru it's USB port, the charge time will remain short, but the 14500 max voltage reached will slowly drop. Eventually, after many recharge cycles, the max voltage reached will be considerably lower(at one point it was barely reaching 3.6V). The cure for this is simple, after recharging with the Bartleby for many cycles and you notice a drop off in max 14500 Voltage attained; simply remove the 14500 and charge it in a standard charger - this will return the battery to it's initial 4.2V max level. Then you can start recharging through the bartleby again.

Although convenient and quick, I do think the above phenomena intimates that constant recharging with the bartleby only will considerably decrease the active life of the 14500 battery. What I do now is recharge through the bartleby for approximately 1 week, then remove the 14500 and fully charge in a standard 14500 charger.
 

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I was hesitant to buy after reading the short charge life thing, as this can mean something detrimental. The explanation and observation placed me back on track. Thanks for the info on the short charge cycle.

This guy is 1.5 hours away and after reading most of this thread, I'll just have to hit him up for one of these. Currently using the BB which takes the 14500's anyway and was looking for a stealth mod with off switch. Can also ditch this 10440 510 PT with purchase of the unit with cable.

Perfect!

Anyone using 510 carto's with this unit? Whistle tip and Halo Freedom juice would be the order of the day.
 
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I just ordered a couple from him, In the mail monday, Hope to get them tomorrow, or thursday.

Yeah, hes pretty much on Diaper patrol, but damn.. Twins?! How cool! He told me he builds on the weekends, so orders are processed then. Send him a PM, or email, You'll get a response.

Ill report back on 510 carto performance. I imagine it will be pretty good. I really like 510 cartos on my eGo, so the Barty should be as good, or better!

-Jason
 

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I just ordered a couple from him, In the mail monday, Hope to get them tomorrow, or thursday.

Yeah, hes pretty much on Diaper patrol, but damn.. Twins?! How cool! He told me he builds on the weekends, so orders are processed then. Send him a PM, or email, You'll get a response.

Ill report back on 510 carto performance. I imagine it will be pretty good. I really like 510 cartos on my eGo, so the Barty should be as good, or better!

-Jason

Email sent this AM and no word yet. Please do get back on the carto's but I imagine they would be great with this unit. I stay with the 3.7V and everything should be on the up and up. Thanks much for your reply/info.
 

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The 510 cartomizers work great on the Bartleby, as do the LR 510 attys.

I also HIGHLY recommend getting one of these to carry your Bart. Cut a small hole for the button and you're good to go! :)

Great link and this little baby looks like the goods! Would appear as a cell to most people and makes the unit even stealthier, not to mention the sometimes pocket carry hassles.

Thanks!
 

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I bought mine a few months ago and use it all the time, it is one of my favorite devices. However, I was noticing the EXACT same thing you were(the unbelievably short charge time) & thought there was NO way it could possibly be recharging a 14500 that fast. Here's what I found; initially(the 1st few Bartleby charges) the charge time is short and the 14500 charges to it's full level(~4.2V). However, if you continually use only the bartleby to do the recharging thru it's USB port, the charge time will remain short, but the 14500 max voltage reached will slowly drop. Eventually, after many recharge cycles, the max voltage reached will be considerably lower(at one point it was barely reaching 3.6V). The cure for this is simple, after recharging with the Bartleby for many cycles and you notice a drop off in max 14500 Voltage attained; simply remove the 14500 and charge it in a standard charger - this will return the battery to it's initial 4.2V max level. Then you can start recharging through the bartleby again.

Although convenient and quick, I do think the above phenomena intimates that constant recharging with the bartleby only will considerably decrease the active life of the 14500 battery. What I do now is recharge through the bartleby for approximately 1 week, then remove the 14500 and fully charge in a standard 14500 charger.

I strongly suspected this was going to be the case with the USB charging. I've had my Bart for over 5 months, and it still vapes great, but the USB charging stopped working about a week ago. (Probably too much dry burn while online) No complaints at all, as this is still a good amount of time for any PV given how much I push the poor little thing. It still totally rocks as a PV, love it. And I have an external charger anyway, so no worries. Perhaps dialing down the charging current would solve this fast-recharging problem, but perhaps that would take additional circuitry, and there is not much room left in it.

IMHO a true 3.7V PV using the 14500 is about as good as it gets. With my 2.5 ohm attys its about a 5.8 watt vape, which is right where I like it. And it is very easy on those precious attys. Mine last much longer than on a 3.1V 510 as they don't get clogged as much, but not as hot as an HV trying to pump out 10 watts.

One issue though, and probably related to the high current it is drawing to recharge, but has anyone else fried USB cables with the Bart? I went through three.
 

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Great link and this little baby looks like the goods! Would appear as a cell to most people and makes the unit even stealthier, not to mention the sometimes pocket carry hassles.

Thanks!

It can be totally stealth, easy to cover the LEDs, and is just fine in a pocket...unless the cart comes off. :ohmy: I think all mods should have an on/off switch. And for plastic, it is amazingly tough. Dropped it many times without problems.
 

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Well, got both the 3.7V, and the 5V bartys in today (awesome!)

Charged up the batts, and got to work puffing away on these things.

3.7v Initial reaction: the vape is stronger than my eGo, more TH, more vapor. The 510 carto seems to do really well on this mod.

Now, I havnt tried a carto on the 5v one yet, and heres why.

I put the batteries in, put on a standard atty i have been vaping on all day, dripped 3 drops in it, and fired it up

(this is my first 5V experience too)

Took a good long 5 second drag, and almost puked. It tasted like i had vaped burning electronics. Big plume of vapor tho :( I thought I was going to have to start licking a cheese grater to get the taste out of my mouth, it was very, very bad.

I looked into the atty to try and diagnose the problem, saw it was pretty gunky in there, so I dropped that atty into some hot water, (some dark sadness started wafting from it in the hot water pretty immediately) and grabbed a brand new atty. Tested it and it was 2.5ohms.

blew out the primer, dripped in some blueberry and *cautiously* took a few puffs holding the button down only a second or two.

Okay, now this is good. Great strong TH, much stronger than the same juice on my eGo, tons of vapor, flavor seemed more intense too.

I want to get my "5V" legs before I go and try a carto on it. Believe me, that first puff is not a flavor I *ever* want to experience again, LOL

As far as the Mods themselves, theyre solid, *very* cleanly assembled and overall just a really nice looking device all the way around.

-Jason
 

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question, just got mine. the epoxy is tacky on the inside, and if I screw the atomizer all the way down, it doesn't work, need it one turn up, is that normal?

And finally and the thing that is really frustrating me, is the button supposed to be so hard to press down? half the time I'm ending up pushing it down, and having the light blink on and off because its not smashed all the way down. I've used it 5 times and my finger hurts already. Is that normal/?
 

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question, just got mine. the epoxy is tacky on the inside, and if I screw the atomizer all the way down, it doesn't work, need it one turn up, is that normal?

And finally and the thing that is really frustrating me, is the button supposed to be so hard to press down? half the time I'm ending up pushing it down, and having the light blink on and off because its not smashed all the way down. I've used it 5 times and my finger hurts already. Is that normal/?

No and No.
 

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I have the Protege' for 14500 use and the Bartleby puts that to shame. Seems like there is a much more direct route from batt to atty with the Bartleby so you get little/no loss and I at least appreciated the diff.

The USB charge option is fantastic (as a JStick user it is a must have) and is super fast.

Needless to say, it has replaced my JStick as my main device.

It's well worth the wait IMHO, very well designed and laid out and has a real professional look to it as all the hole cuts are very clean...even the mini-usb port hole is the right size and shape.
 

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I have the Protege' for 14500 use and the Bartleby puts that to shame. Seems like there is a much more direct route from batt to atty with the Bartleby so you get little/no loss and I at least appreciated the diff.

The USB charge option is fantastic (as a JStick user it is a must have) and is super fast.

Needless to say, it has replaced my JStick as my main device.

It's well worth the wait IMHO, very well designed and laid out and has a real professional look to it as all the hole cuts are very clean...even the mini-usb port hole is the right size and shape.

I'm waiting with patience as I know he has new additions to the family. But there is always that period of no reply when you begin to wonder if there's going to be one. :unsure:

Sounds like just what I'm looking for and not going out to buy anything else until after the weekend has passed. This thing is perfect for my needs. Thanks to everyone for the great info!
 
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