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Lipo bags are a good investment as well. Just IN CASE something happens with the charger. They are pretty cheap and provide some peace of mind. I also bought some small plastic battery storage cases (VERY cheap). Because if loose batteries contact metal or each other you can create a problem there too!
 

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If you were putting new brakes on your car, would you put $3 no-name brakes or $50 brand-name brakes on? You get what you pay for.

It would depend on whether or not there was a qualitative difference between the two. I wouldn't just spend more money for the sake of spending it...? Im asking is there a reason other than its more expensive so it must be better
 

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Total n00b here stacking 350's in my Vamo. After some research, as others have said, the process seems safe as any battery as long as you follow basic protocols (use in pairs, alternate placement in PV, check voltage in/out of the PV and charger, don't leave charging batts unattended, etc.). Also, a pricier charger (like a Pila) will feature multiple charging modes to help prevent over-charging, which seems to be a huge factor in Blamos.

Heck of a lot safer than a commute to work :)
 

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It would depend on whether or not there was a qualitative difference between the two. I wouldn't just spend more money for the sake of spending it...? Im asking is there a reason other than its more expensive so it must be better
Yeah right, I'm sure you wouldn't.

Personally, there are some things I just don't go "cheap" with when making purchasing decisions. One of them would be brakes for my car, and I don't mind paying industry standard prices for brand name brakes. My life and the life of others could depend upon the quality, performace, and safety of the brakes that I choose for my car, so I choose not to skimp in this area and not look for "sales" for dirt cheap, no name brand brakes whose build, materials, and overall quality might not be up to snuff. I guess I call it the "peace of mind" factor.

The same can be true for Li-ion batteries and of the chargers for them that we use for our electronic cigarettes. I personally place the importance of a good charger and batteries right up there with my auto brakes. I figure that I use my PV more times throughout my day than any other device I own. Not only that, but I put that device right up to my mouth/face each time that I turn it on.

I'm not the most handsome guy in the world, but I kinda like the way that I look and would like to keep it that way. I don't need some cheap no-name battery to explode half my jaw away because at the time I purchased that battery it was a steal at $6.50 off of E-bay, when the typical going price for a genuine, name-brand AW battery from a reputable dealer would have cost me a whopping $8.

Is the genuine AW brand battery actually a safer battery than a no-brand battery? Honestly, I don't know, but I'm going with the AW. It's the "peace of mind" factor. I place more priority on safety of a known reputable product over financial savings of an unknown product. If you remember, I'm the guy who had a less reputable brand battery vent in a PV, so I'm a little more sensitive to this issue than many other vapors.

The same holds true with the Li-ion chargers available to us. For years the Pila has been the top dog in the flashlight and e-cigarette industries for recognized quality, features, and expense. Sort of the Provari of the Li-ion battery rechargers. If you wanted one you were going to be paying two or three times more for one than a no-name brand or a Trustfire charger. Is the Pila worth the extra money? Only you can answer that. I chose to buy both a Pila and a Provari, I'm a brand name kinda a person and don't regret my decisions one bit. I have peace of mind and I don't mind paying more for that.

There are X-tar and NiteCore brand chargers available now that look to be competitive with the quality, features, and price points of the Pila. I likely would feel comfortable purchasing either of those three if in the market. However, because of that "peace of mind" issue I have with batteries and chargers, I would never purchase a battery or charger that was not made by the three main manufacturers of Li-ion batteries or chargers.

You may be the type of buyer who feels better about themselves about saving a $1 here or there and is not into brand names or the reputations of brand name products. And that's fine, as that is where your "peace of mind" priorities are which may be different than my own.
 
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Very well said Baditude. My experience is when I bought my first PV, a Mechanical Mod, they threw in Trustfire 18650 batts and a Tr-001 charger. Within 3 months the charger had failed me and at that point I decided, on the advice of Vets here at ECF, to buy quality batts and charger. Fortunately when the charger failed I was at home and noticed the batts becoming VERY warm- they were overcharged and
"could've" vented had I not been there. I also now charge my batts in a metal ammo box.
Two things to be aware of when using inexpensive chargers- failure/ overcharging and inaccurate charging/ overcharging- the latter is not only dangerous but also not healthy for the longevity of batteries.
 
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Very well said Baditude. My experience is when I bought my first PV, a Mechanical Mod, they threw in Trustfire 18650 batts and a Tr-001 charger. Within 3 months the charger had failed me and at that point I decided, on the advice of Vets here at ECF, to buy quality batts and charger. Fortunately when the charger failed I was at home and noticed the batts becoming VERY warm- they were overcharged and
"could've" vented had I not been there. I also now charge my batts in a metal ammo box.
Two things to be aware of when using inexpensive chargers- failure/ overcharging and inaccurate charging/ overcharging- the latter is not only dangerous but also not healthy for the longevity of batteries.
Thanks for sharing the experience!
 

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I hear you. I stopped caring about names in high school. I was looking for some evidence like these brand name batteries have never blown up in testing but these no names blow all the time, that's why. I bought a pair of panasonics cuz they were 10 bux for 2. if they blow up they blow up cest la vie I'm not buying a $30 battery for a $30 device, not happening. Neither will i buy a $50 charger to charge them. Just ain't doin it.
 

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I hear you. I stopped caring about names in high school. I was looking for some evidence like these brand name batteries have never blown up in testing but these no names blow all the time, that's why. I bought a pair of panasonics cuz they were 10 bux for 2. if they blow up they blow up cest la vie I'm not buying a $30 battery for a $30 device, not happening. Neither will i buy a $50 charger to charge them. Just ain't doin it.
I have never seen a $30 battery for a PV. :blink:

Well, I hope your penny pinching doesn't backfire on you. Good luck with that.

(No pun intended.)
 
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I have never seen a $30 battery for a PV.

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I have Efests for my Vamo and a trustfire charger. No problems so far and I'm not even going to knock on wood. I don't stack the batteries, usually it's just too long and heavy so I'll put a single 18350 in. I've heard the more expensive batteries last about an hour longer. I'm OK with not having that, I have a back-up battery.

A couple safety features you may be interested in OP...you can check the voltage on your battery by pressing and holding the - button. There is built in protection anyway but I don't like to run them down too much. About 3.4 volts, I'll change the battery. Another thing- get the cheap little plastic boxes for your batteries. I keep one on my desk, if I'm going out I'll put an extra battery in the box to take with. Accidents happen when people throw a battery in their pocket with some loose change, or in their bag with their keys. These accidents are TOTALLY avoidable by practicing safety. Batteries are either getting charged, in the mod or in the box, period.

I just ordered my son a Vamo (used his CC hehe), he keeps 'borrowing' mine. Good sale too at exhalevapors coupon code VaporJoes11Percent.
 

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I have Efests for my Vamo and a trustfire charger. No problems so far and I'm not even going to knock on wood. I don't stack the batteries, usually it's just too long and heavy so I'll put a single 18350 in. I've heard the more expensive batteries last about an hour longer. I'm OK with not having that, I have a back-up battery.

A couple safety features you may be interested in OP...you can check the voltage on your battery by pressing and holding the - button. There is built in protection anyway but I don't like to run them down too much. About 3.4 volts, I'll change the battery. Another thing- get the cheap little plastic boxes for your batteries. I keep one on my desk, if I'm going out I'll put an extra battery in the box to take with. Accidents happen when people throw a battery in their pocket with some loose change, or in their bag with their keys. These accidents are TOTALLY avoidable by practicing safety. Batteries are either getting charged, in the mod or in the box, period.

I just ordered my son a Vamo (used his CC hehe), he keeps 'borrowing' mine. Good sale too at exhalevapors coupon code VaporJoes11Percent.

thx i just bought a Vamo from Vapor Break tho...dont even really want an apv of any kind its more just curiosity and the fact that theyre only 30 bucks...I like my fake chinese ego and stardust just fine :) Just wanna see what the hypes about. I dont really get the whole buying ten of everything and constantly buying different or premium versions of the same stuff, I just need to vape and my ecigs and ego allow me to do that.
 

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In the current vaping community, many of the off-brands and knockoff devices have had a notorious history of under-performing compared to the name brand items. Experienced vapors therefore recommend purchasing the name brand items (ie genuine Joytech, Vision, Boge or Smoktech cartomizers, etc) as opposed to brandless items which often fail prematurely or don't work correctly right out of the box.

We also recommend having backups for when our primary devices fail. There is nothing worse than realizing you don't have a working battery or a working juice delivery device and can't vape, opening the possibility to return to buying cigarettes.

If your knockoffs are working for you, you are a fortunate vapor. :)
 
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