Batteries, Explosions, Chargers and YOU!

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thecapz

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I've been reading about how unsafe the 18650 chargers can be, where they can potentially catch fire/explode.:evil:

I've used Ultrafire and Truefire batteries chargers (18650 3.7v) for my reo grand, but the chargers just seem like cheaply made chinese junk.:glare:

Is there a real premium brand of battery/charger for my Reo Grand, that I can purchase for safety and reliability?:confused:

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Yes, a Pila charger is widely considered to be the best and safest battery charger. Also, you should be using AW IMR 18650 batteries. Not only is AW a much better constructed battery than the Ultra/Trust Fire, but the IMR is a "safe" chemistry battery, meaning it does not have as great of a potential for runaway fire and gassing, and does not have deadly poisonous fumes. Read this post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html
 

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Also, you should be using AW IMR 18650 batteries. Not only is AW a much better constructed battery than the Ultra/Trust Fire, but the IMR is a "safe" chemistry battery, meaning it does not have as great of a potential for runaway fire and gassing, and does not have deadly poisonous fumes. Read this post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

Since you mentioned the batteries I thought I might ask a question. I don't have a Reo yet, but I hope to very soon so I'm trying to do my homework.
I thought I read in another thread that the AW IMR's are not protected. Even though it is a safe chemistry batt, I thought you were only supposed to run mods with protected batteries. So, I'm a little confused (actually I'm A LOT confused...voltmeters, ohms, LR atties, HV atties, Mah ratings....BOOM...that was my head exploding...not bad batteries...)
 

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Since you mentioned the batteries I thought I might ask a question. I don't have a Reo yet, but I hope to very soon so I'm trying to do my homework.
I thought I read in another thread that the AW IMR's are not protected. Even though it is a safe chemistry batt, I thought you were only supposed to run mods with protected batteries. So, I'm a little confused (actually I'm A LOT confused...voltmeters, ohms, LR atties, HV atties, Mah ratings....BOOM...that was my head exploding...not bad batteries...)

Safe Chemisrty batteries are safer than protected batteries is what it all boils down to...

TONS of info can be found here..
Battery University Table of Contents
 
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It comes down to what happens when a protection circuit board (pcb) fails on a protected battery. They can flame out if they fail whereas a Safer Chem is not supposed to flame. They can both be dangerous. Here is some common sense tips that may help calm those nerves.
-be careful with your batteries. If you drop them or damage them, safest bet is to toss them.
-get a multi-meter. this is helpful for when you forget to remove your battery. check them to make sure they're not overcharged. also a good tool if you are having a problem with atties/cartos. we can help you learn how to use it. its really easy once you've done it a couple times.
-mah ratings can be deceiving at times and at others...flat out lies. For instance, I would be very skeptical of something that claims to be 3600 mah as it pertains to an 18650. When asking folks about how well their batteries perform, it might help to get a guestimate of how many mls as opposed to how many hours one goes through on a battery charge. Even though we all vape differently and LR vs SR will make a difference as well, the most common way of quantifying vaping time is by mls/charge....from what I've observed. Some may disagree.
-and last...take your time. keep asking questions until you feel you've gotten a better understanding. heck, there's still stuff I don't quite get and I'm not worried about it. I defer to the experts if I don't know. :) someone will eventually come along with an answer that makes sense to you. that's why I love these forums! :)
 

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Thank You Mvgratz and Rhapsodies Fire. I almost feel like I need a degree in electricity to vape. The sad thing is, I've been using mods for over a year! In the past, I just bought the batteries and the compatable charger from the same company or from the company they recommended. In researching the REO, I came across so much information that I never took into consideration (like the atties drawing so much power that battery should be 2C...or something like that...now I have to go back and find that again...LOL). It's interesting, but mind boggling.
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and hope I can be the proud owner of a REO very soon.
 

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I have a multimeter, and watched Basilray's video on how to check attys so I have been checking them prior to first use, but how do you use it to check your batteries? I didn't find any videos about that. Do you use the same settings on the multimeter? What should it read for a properly charged AW IMR 14500? How about an AW IMR 18650? The multimeter I have is the same one as in Basilray's video.
 

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I have a multimeter, and watched Basilray's video on how to check attys so I have been checking them prior to first use, but how do you use it to check your batteries? I didn't find any videos about that. Do you use the same settings on the multimeter? What should it read for a properly charged AW IMR 14500? How about an AW IMR 18650? The multimeter I have is the same one as in Basilray's video.

Set it for DC volts (I have to set my Craftsman meter to 9 volts, the 1.5 volts selection won't give me accurate readings), touch the black lead to the negative post of the battery and the red lead to the positive post.
 

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I have a brand new pair of 18650 3000mah Ultra fire batts and a charger that I got from Cree flashlight. I bought these in anticipation of a mod that is being built for me right now. Are they safe to use? Or should I just chuck em' and order something different? I am not a newb but the batt stuff (brands etc) are confusing. Thanks in advance for any help and sorry for the hijack...
 

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I have a brand new pair of 18650 3000mah Ultra fire batts and a charger that I got from Cree flashlight. I bought these in anticipation of a mod that is being built for me right now. Are they safe to use? Or should I just chuck em' and order something different? I am not a newb but the batt stuff (brands etc) are confusing. Thanks in advance for any help and sorry for the hijack...

If they have Protective Circuit Boards (should say "Protected" on the battery), they're relatively safe to use.
 

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I have a brand new pair of 18650 3000mah Ultra fire batts and a charger that I got from Cree flashlight. I bought these in anticipation of a mod that is being built for me right now. Are they safe to use? Or should I just chuck em' and order something different? I am not a newb but the batt stuff (brands etc) are confusing. Thanks in advance for any help and sorry for the hijack...

In the 18650 size, the Ultrafire is probably fine. The OP asked: Is there a real premium brand of battery/charger for my Reo Grand, that I can purchase for safety and reliability? and the answer is that the AW IMR batteries are currently considered to be the best and safest batteries.
 
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