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stols001

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the unthinkable. @Eskie successfully executed a perfect cop and drop on the same page of the same thread. I've heard of this, but I always chalked it up to urban legend.

I don't even know what this means, and I'm laughing. And sure @Asbestos4004 , I'll agree to your deal if someone just tells me what "moved on" means because lets face it, the chances of my getting a mod to do ANYTHING are zero out of infinity times, but if someone says he can be Reactivated or Returminated, TELL ME! I so promise I won't talk him back in the door.

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I don't even know what this means, and I'm laughing. And sure @Asbestos4004 , I'll agree to your deal if someone just tells me what "moved on" means because lets face it, the chances of my getting a mod to do ANYTHING are zero out of infinity times, but if someone says he can be Reactivated or Returminated, TELL ME! I so promise I won't talk him back in the door.

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LOL...Moved On is a polite way of saying he was shown the door. You can only call someone a Richard Cranium so many times....
 
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You know, Tesla (let's ignore everyone's opinion about Musk, although I'll always question why Grimes ever got involved with him, really, I thought she had better taste) had to partner with Panasonic and between them sank ~$5 Billion into building Gigafactory 1 and 2 (pretty sure I remember it was the first but I'll give them the benefit of a doubt) to make 18650s for their car battery assemblies.

Now two points. First, a company the size of Tesla needed an established manufacturer like Panasonic as a partner to know how to build them, and two, those factories were big, serious money.

You might be able to throw together a fly by night little battery plant in Shenzhen without that sort of money, but if you want to manufacture high quality high current batteries it isn't easy or cheap.

Edit: I'm sorry. I told myself I wouldn't post it but I'll never sleep if I don't. I so wanted to have that last sentence read "manufacture high quality high current batteries by the car load ". There, it's out of my system.
 
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You know, Tesla (let's ignore everyone's opinion about Musk, although I'll always question why Grimes ever got involved with him, really, I thought she had better taste) had to partner with Panasonic and between them sank ~$5 Billion into building Gigafactory 1 and 2 (pretty sure I remember it was the first but I'll give them the benefit of a doubt) to make 18650s for their car battery assemblies.

Now two points. First, a company the size of Tesla needed an established manufacturer like Panasonic as a partner to know how to build them, and two, those factories were big, serious money.

You might be able to throw together a fly by night little battery plant in Shenzhen without that sort of money, but if you want to manufacture high quality high current batteries it isn't easy or cheap.
BS, just ask Phil and Tony. Can you drill a hole in a Tesla? I rest my case.
 
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BS, just ask Phil and Tony. Can you drill a hole in a Tesla? I rest my case.

As long as the hole is where the gas cap would have been.

I gotta say, it would be something pretty cool for a YT video to take a Tesla and go at it with power drills.
 

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... I'll agree to your deal if someone just tells me what "moved on" means because lets face it, the chances of my getting a mod to do ANYTHING are zero out of infinity times, but if someone says he can be Reactivated or Returminated, TELL ME! I so promise I won't talk him back in the door.

It means that the Member has Ascended to the Super Elite, Stretch Limo full of Lingerie Models, High Flying, First Class with Free Drinks, One-Way Ticket out of ECFville.

 

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Well, it's good to know that if and when the day comes, I'll be a) going out in style and b) headed up to meet Ephraim in the vape in the sky.

Okay, I'll admit that might be terrifying, so I'll bring it back to the topic.

Wasn't it fun when Ephraim bought THE MOST POWERFUL Amp batteries he could find, and then spent many posts obsessing on their lack of RUNTIME?

LOL @Asbestos4004 since you called it well played, I'm gonna go back and try to "amend" your stats. LOL.

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As long as the hole is where the gas cap would have been.

I gotta say, it would be something pretty cool for a YT video to take a Tesla and go at it with power drills.
One does not drill a Tesla, a Tesla drills itself. It's an app works as good as the self driving, so I've heard. Just have to remember not to run both at the same time, causes the system to crash again so I've heard.
 
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Then why did Tony (I think that is the owner's name of Aspire) spend all of that money in a controlling interested and changed the way how the Yongdeli Battery Company made their batteries for? Why spend millions on a company to just rewrap them anyway? That makes no sense to me.

And Aspire lists the specs for vaping, performing tests to insure their batteries are safer for vaping. Geez they even test by drilling through a cell and insure their batteries won't explode in your mod. How much safer can you manufacture batteries that won't explode in high heat and won't blow by shorting the plates together with a drill bit? That is far different than other battery companies. Nor does other companies test them in mods either.
The reason he spent all of that money is because he believes it possible to market boxes of thin air if the packaging is done right. Mooch already explained this in clear detail, i.e. their manufacturing process is so abysmal in fact, it essentially forces them to test their batteries in this extremely inefficient fashion that simply requires them to store them in large quantities, whereas the "Big 4" (Samsung, Sony/Murata, LG, Panasonic/Sanyo) have tailored vastly superior QC directly into the streamlined manufacturing process itself which means they don't have to use a separate storage facility to be able to test them, as each and every single cell that leaves the manufacturing plant has already meticulously been tested as part of production stage.

None of the cylindrical cells we use for vaping are designed to be used outside a fully protected battery pack with a protection circuit. By choosing to vape on them anyway, we choose to accept a certain risk level that is above standard because we use them differently than how the standard prescribes them to be used, but that we can reduce down to a minimal acceptable level by taking a few factors rationally into account and outlining a number of safety guidelines dedicating ourselves to acting accordingly to those factors so the additional safety that turns it into acceptable amount of safety is not provided by the batteries themselves, but how we use them. Aspire manufactured round cells are not an exception. In fact by spreading the facade that suggests they are an exception they become more dangerous, as their poor performance is an invitation to neglect their specifications that, due to their sub par manufacturing process and how they do their testing, aren't very reliably accurate anyway in the first place. The term charlatan springs to mind.
 

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