Battery compatibility chart for all GGs
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Not to throw a wet blanket on this subject, but I keep seeing posts about "Protected" CR2 batteries. When I go to the link that shows them, no where does it say that they are protected. I don't believe that "protected" CR2 lithium-ion batts in either 3v or 3.7v are being made. Please show me one that clearly states that they are protected! The only safe CR2 that I am aware of are LiFoPO4 chemistry batts that are available in 200 and 280mAh.
PLEASE prove me wrong! I think it's very dangerous to point people to a site and tell them they are buying protected batts when they are not.
PLEASE prove me wrong! I think it's very dangerous to point people to a site and tell them they are buying protected batts when they are not.
Just today I got some new Batts in the mail, and currently using the LiFeP04 3.2 X 2 Batts and it puts out quite a nice vape for me, also vaping with 2 cr123 3.7 bats at 7.4 volts with an Imeo 7.2 Atty and it makes for quite an awesome Vape and it really kicks some serious ..., Imeo your the KING !!!! Just a great day to vape here in the Philadelphia area we are getting anywhere from 18"-24" of snow right now so im gonna vape vape vape the day away....!!!!
Merry Christmas to the GG Family !!!!!
mwa102464
Merry Christmas to the GG Family !!!!!
mwa102464
3V CR2 800Mah unprotected battery
3.7V CR2 Juice™ Batteries.
My friend,
It's me the only one here who mentioned Protected 3V and 3.7V batteries. And I was strictly talking about Juice™ Batteries.
Fact is that like I said before, when I was searching around, I read in one of many reviews that those cells were protected ones but I cannot find this review anymore.
But I assumed that it was true, and did not do further researches on it, since i was only interested in trying those batteries, to see if they were 3.7Volts. Which they effectively turned out to be! (Juice™ Batteries have also 3V versions)
What lead me to assume that they were protected batteries, and to not think of it twice, is the thick plastic ring over the positive end, that you never find on either unprotected cells or even ordinary non rechargeable lithium cells. (You can see that on the pictures posted earlier)
That's because I had previously read, that very high quality Lithium cell brands, which are more expensive, feature, in addition to many other demanding specifications, the use of a white plastic ring to give better shock/impact damage to the chip (PCB) and that some even use special technology, and do not necessarily put the chip on the negative end of the battery. (I'm not an expert and I might be wrong though for having misunderstood what that meant)
Besides, I can feel something like a thin strip along the side, but it is so thin that I'm not sure of anything. It could as well be a hidden part of the wrap...I don't know. And I won't tear off the battery to verify it...hehe
Anyway, the battery does neither state its voltage, nor its capacity, nor whether it is protected or not. Neither does its manufacturer or any of his dealers state anything or even its contrary, on the basic product description page.
Yet juice batteries states this in their technical manual:
"The Li-Ion (3V) battery is a more recent rechargeable system. It shows a higher operating voltage per cell than RECHARGEABLE ALKALINE (1.5V ) NiCad (1.2V ) and NiMH (1.2V) cells, which does not permit an interchange on a per cell basis. Its ampere-hour capacity is lower but the energy density (watt-hours/liter) is higher as a result of the higher operating voltage.
The Li-Ion system requires strict overcharge and overdischarge control via microchip technology for consumer safety."
That couldn't be clearer I guess.
Now about the capacity, and in another review, and like I said before, I read a person that stated that the batteries were tested as 400Mah. But although i didn't test them, and like I said before, i can fairly say that they might rather average 500 maybe 600 Mah due to a fair length of discharge time. Which is not impossible since there are now, even 800 Mah ones available here and there. But even 400 Mah at such high voltage as 3.7V and such fair length of discharge time (and I'm a heavy vaper) is good enough to invest in them.
Finally, I don't endorse neither insist on, nor guarantee any of the information provided hereby, but only mean to help, if possible. And I can be wrong or mislead.
And for what it's worth, those batteries are too expensive and I will still prefer to go for the time being, with the more accessible 3.7V unprotected CR2s found on E-Bay. I don't know if it's wiser, but it's a lot cheaper.
hope that clarifies it.
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Mist_of_Joye,
I appreciate you going to all this trouble to do research on the Juice battery. I must tell you that I do not believe they are protected. If they were you would see/feel where the chip has been added at the bottom of the battery. Also, if it were, it would clearly state so as that would be a major selling point. This sentence from the technical manual is a statement of fact, not a statement of this battery's feature set.
The Li-Ion system requires strict overcharge and overdischarge control via microchip technology for consumer safety."
I'm really not trying to give you a hard time. I just don't want anyone to think that they are using a "safer" battery when in fact, they are not. The only protected CR2 batteries were built by AW a while back. They stopped making them.
I appreciate you going to all this trouble to do research on the Juice battery. I must tell you that I do not believe they are protected. If they were you would see/feel where the chip has been added at the bottom of the battery. Also, if it were, it would clearly state so as that would be a major selling point. This sentence from the technical manual is a statement of fact, not a statement of this battery's feature set.
The Li-Ion system requires strict overcharge and overdischarge control via microchip technology for consumer safety."
I'm really not trying to give you a hard time. I just don't want anyone to think that they are using a "safer" battery when in fact, they are not. The only protected CR2 batteries were built by AW a while back. They stopped making them.
I was wondering the same thing when I saw Protected CR2s. They are simply too small to have protection circuits on board. If you are careful with them you should be fine. The problem lies when you are using them in pairs. Make sure you are keeping them in those pairs. Also check their voltages before use to see they are close to the same voltage. I keep a multimeter close to my battery department ie. box and chargers to keep a close eye on those CR2s. Any wild fluctuations and they get tossed. Just not worth any accidents for a 3 dollar part.
I hate it when I might be wrong but I have some more info on these batteries. Here is a link to a PDF of the instruction manual.
http://www.juicebatteries.com/files/DDF/JuicePhotoLith Inst Manual_eng.pdf
It appears that they have some form of protection built in.
Specifications
• Power Input: AC nominal 120V ~ 50 Hz
• Power Input: DC 12V ~ 400mAh
• Charge Current: 400mAh
• Charging Method: Constant voltage with
top-off and maintenance charging
• Built-in microprocessor for charge control
• Short circuit protection
• Conforms to UL file E204894
You appear to be right ....I appear to be wrong. 8-o
I still don't understand why they wouldn't advertise them as protected.
http://www.juicebatteries.com/files/DDF/JuicePhotoLith Inst Manual_eng.pdf
It appears that they have some form of protection built in.
Specifications
• Power Input: AC nominal 120V ~ 50 Hz
• Power Input: DC 12V ~ 400mAh
• Charge Current: 400mAh
• Charging Method: Constant voltage with
top-off and maintenance charging
• Built-in microprocessor for charge control
• Short circuit protection
• Conforms to UL file E204894
You appear to be right ....I appear to be wrong. 8-o
I still don't understand why they wouldn't advertise them as protected.
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Good info and thanks for posting this. I looked at those juice batteries but did not get them because of the low mAh rating. Plus I could not find them in quantities. If anyone knows where to get them at a decent price please post a link. Shopping for batteries can be a long and tedious process. But after trying all other cells I am stuck on these CR2 batteries at 6v. When I tried to go 6v with the RCR123s they seem to be too strong. I was getting that burnt taste. But when I use the CR2 at 6v it is much better and does not burn the juice as fast. This could be something to do with the discharge rate. Not sure why this is but I am now stuck on using them almost exclusively. Hard to go back to 3.7 now...
I use Tenergy rcr123a 3.0V 900 mAh batties, they are great, only thing: use them ONLY with their charger.
Yea I have some of those Tenergy 750 Lifepo batteries. Are the 900 different in some way? I know they are regular Li-ion but I wonder if they are like using these CR2s? Their discharge rate has to be what is causing this burnt taste to my juices.
O well, things are about to change for us when the HV iAtties are in full swing. I can't wait to get a 901 AFS HV iAtty hooked up and pushed with two 18350s at 7.4v..... That is going to be pure vaping bliss.
O well, things are about to change for us when the HV iAtties are in full swing. I can't wait to get a 901 AFS HV iAtty hooked up and pushed with two 18350s at 7.4v..... That is going to be pure vaping bliss.
What exactly are you searching for Vap?
3V or 3.7V CR2s. Protected or unprotected?
Ultrafire 600 mAh 15266 CR2 3.6V Unprotected Lithium Rechargeable Battery
$3.99
2 CR2 Unprotected rechargeable battery 3V 1000mah+charger
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Been reading and there's lots of mention of 5v here and there.
I presume this will be possible with some sort of switch or something on the new GGTS model? And if so what would be the preferred batteries for this setup?
6v seems awesome but I'm concerned of short battery life versus a high mah 3.7v.
I'd like to take care of the batteries in advance, wouldn't want a new GGTS left alone because I have no power for it.
I presume this will be possible with some sort of switch or something on the new GGTS model? And if so what would be the preferred batteries for this setup?
6v seems awesome but I'm concerned of short battery life versus a high mah 3.7v.
I'd like to take care of the batteries in advance, wouldn't want a new GGTS left alone because I have no power for it.
if you put 2x3 volt batteries on GG and you put my 6 volt atomizer then you smoke at 5 volts Delux my friend!
Well it's almost time to start ordering batteries for the new model. The GGTS. As some of you know I have one of the two prototypes for this model. I have been enjoying using it for a few months now. I can't begin to tell you how nice it is (Especially if you already own a few different mods) to use ANY battery in your box. This is a quick look at all the different batteries that you will be able to use in the new GGTS. Basically if you can fit the thing inside the tube you can use it.
ooooooh, Vapn, veeeery nice battery collection along with the GG model I most covet.
You appear to be almost as OCD as I am.
Are you certain you can handle all the power????
You appear to be almost as OCD as I am.
Are you certain you can handle all the power????
101mm delux
Vapn, nice pic my friend, we all know that GGTS takes all batteries in the world but a pic is always better than words. Thanks friend
Vapn, nice pic my friend, we all know that GGTS takes all batteries in the world but a pic is always better than words. Thanks friend
I counted 27 CR2s!
You're a true Grant Geek!
No there is 14 CR2s 4 of those are 3.7v and then those others are RCR123s.
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