Battery compatibility chart for all GGs

[lashmn]

Lisa, thanks for putting this battery guide together.

Do CR123 3.0V require the use of spacers in the GG Transformer?

Morrisam,

I find the CR123's fit perfectly but the CR2's are too short and require spacers. Since I don't have any spacers and wouldn't know where to put them, the CR2's are just sitting in the drawer!

Lynn

As Lisa said, yours may be slightly different.

 

[Lisaf01]

CR2s are definitely too short without spacers, yes - you can get them at DX.

 

[emonty]

Hi,

I orderded from Deal Extreme the following:

Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack (for the GG Slim)
TrustFire All-in-One Charger (for 10430/10440/14500/16340 /17670/18650/CR123A)
UltraFire Protected 18650 3.7V 2400mAh Lithium batteries (2-Pack Grey) (for the GGT)

Now: Can anybody tell me if those items mentioned above are ok,, keep their voltage, don't explode, work for longer then a few days: are you happy with them ???

The reason:

I hear many people complain about the quality, that they are crap...that they are batties from good companies which did not pass quality control, if so: what are good alternatives for the Great GGT and the awsome GG-Slim???

PS: I live in Europe, so I don't want to buy expensive US batties and chargers


IMEAO: You are the man: what is your advice????

 

[D133]

I can only comment on the Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh for the GG Slim. Actually, mine are labelled 600mAh. There aren't many alternatives - Janty (iVapour) sell them in 350 mAh, and a few outlets sell no-name ones at 320mAh (incl. smokejuice). I have read that all varieties are actually around the 320 - 350mAh range but do not know if this is true.
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Edit>> The DX website actually states for the new protected 10440:
"Product print '600mAh', the exact capacity is 350mAh"
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They also come with TW 510 passthroughs. Ebay as well, though usually only sellers in China.

The batteries are around 4.1V fully charged, and cease to work in the Slim at around 2.8V. I believe this is good as you do not want to over-discharge them much below this anyway. I'm getting maybe an hour or two out of a battery but I tend to vape pretty much constantly when I do, and also deplete the battery faster as I like to let the vapour warm up by keeping the button pressed a lot longer. More occasional vaping should make it last a lot longer. You may want to invest in a few more spare batteries though, I'd hate to run out of power if I was away from a charger.

I have yet to test the Janty batteries, but haven't noticed any difference between the Ultrafire/no-name ones.

I use an Ultrafire WF-138 charger, there is some debate as to whether it is protected as some are labelled as such and others aren't - mine isn't). I take care with the charger and hopefully there won't be any problems. I can also charge the batteries in the TW 510 passthrough.

 

[Lisaf01]

I bought my 10440 batts from eBay and they are marked 600mAh and they do last longer than the single 500mAh one I have to compare them to - but that could be an old one (it was sent to me) or a faulty one.

They are fine in the TR001 multi-charger - just never leave charging batteries unattended.
Surely the 10440 batts don't fit in the WF-138 charger? That's the one for CR123As.

I don't know how you are even getting any vapour if you battery drops to 2.8V, but in any case, don't let it drop this low, recharge when it hits about 3.2-3.4 for best performance (and less risk).
If it doesn't retain charge properly any more, dispose of it according to the regulations in your local area. Do not try and eek out extra time with batteries that are on their last legs - not work the risk.

 

[D133]

There are two versions of the charger, one which takes AAA and AA (like mine), and another that takes the CR size (plus AAA I think). Also, some chargers say on the label they have the over/undercharge protection and some don't.

I find it difficult to know when the power is at a certain level, but thanks for the info, I will have to time it so I know roughly when to check the battery. The batteries all still charge back to 4.1/4.15 range, but I'll swap them more often as I do not want to take undue risks with it.

 

[womblebat]

Dealextreme are now selling protected 10440's, not 100% certain they will fit the slim due to the extra length of the included pcb, they are rated at 600 but the info states the exact mah is 350, i'm thinking they are all about 350mah regardless of what is printed on the battery, i have the 500 and 600 versions and can see no difference.

link courtesy of warp1900 from vapers forum

https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30788

 

[Lisaf01]

There are two versions of the charger, one which takes AAA and AA (like mine), and another that takes the CR size (plus AAA I think). Also, some chargers say on the label they have the over/undercharge protection and some don't.

I didn't know that - you'd think they'd change the model number, huh?

I find it difficult to know when the power is at a certain level, but thanks for the info, I will have to time it so I know roughly when to check the battery. The batteries all still charge back to 4.1/4.15 range, but I'll swap them more often as I do not want to take undue risks with it.

Yes, it's kind of trial and error, but I do find that when the vapour just starts to tail off - that's the point you wanna swap them out - and if I test with a multimeter, that point is usually well above 3.0V - oftentimes, I find myself replacing batteries at around 3.5V due to vapour drop-off.

 

[D133]

Thanks Lisa, I'll try to do that from now on. I have a multimeter to test them so I have no excuses.

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Edit>> I just tested a battery. It took 30 mins pretty constant vaping (with timeouts for refilling, plus a 5min break midway) to go from 4.1V to 3.3V. That was heavier use than I would normally do though. Its a while since I used it in 'cigarette mode', taking 15 short puffs then putting it down for 30 mins - I imagine it would last for several hours that way, and its probably the way I should be using it. For the size, I have no complaints about vapetime.
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Great news about those protected 10440's Womblebat, I should imagine length could be OK (even if some cap thread has to show), but do they have a larger diameter like the vaprlife ones? I have had a couple of regular 10440's that are a tight fit (due to uneven battery plastic coating), so no room for any extra diameter. If they fit, I hope a UK seller will make these available.

 

[Lisaf01]

Just a heads-up - I believe the protected ones do NOT fit the new slim - it's just toooooooooooooooo slim.

 

[D133]

They may fit yet..

I checked the dimensions in the page posted above against the unprotected ones:
Unprotected: 1.77 in x 0.39 in
Protected: 1.81 in x 0.39 in

Same diameter, so could be good news.

 

[Lisaf01]

They may fit yet..

I checked the dimensions in the page posted above against the unprotected ones:
Unprotected: 1.77 in x 0.39 in
Protected: 1.81 in x 0.39 in

Same diameter, so could be good news.

The internal Diameter of my slim is 10.5mm
The 10440 batts I have are 10.3mm
If the protection strip running down the protected ones measures any more than 0.1mm (likely) - they won't fit.
Someone did squeeze one into theirs - this is definitely not recommended.

 

[womblebat]

They may fit yet..

I checked the dimensions in the page posted above against the unprotected ones:
Unprotected: 1.77 in x 0.39 in
Protected: 1.81 in x 0.39 in

Same diameter, so could be good news.

Fingers crossed then the pcb is always placed at the negative end of the battery so usually the diameter is unaffected, take for example protected 14500 don't need spacers in the grant while unprotected do, it's the extra length of the pcb that provides this, you may as you say have some threads showing though

 

[Lisaf01]

Fingers crossed then the pcb is always placed at the negative end of the battery so usually the diameter is unaffected, take for example protected 14500 don't need spacers in the grant while unprotected do, it's the extra length of the pcb that provides this, you may as you say have some threads showing though

The PCB sits at the negative end, yes, but these protected batts also have a little contact strip running up from the negative end underneath the plastic cover on the body of the batt - this is noticible on some, if you check carefully.

Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't notice this tiny diameter difference, but in this precise application, it can be a problem.

 

[D133]

Maybe it was the vaprlife battery someone tried?

Tha vaprlife protected battery is 10.62*46mm
Trustfire protected shown in link is 1.81 in x 0.39 in (which is 9.9*46mm)

I would order some myself to test but I will be away and they would not get here in time. I hope someone does try them out, though I agree it will be a very close call if there is a raised strip.

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Edit>> These new protected 10440 are being discussed on candlepowerforums, thread 3161182. Reports seem to vary about the extra length, from 1mm to 3mm, though I'm not sure anyone has one to measure precisely.
Looking at my charger, I'm not sure a longer battery will fit. I presume they won't be making the batteries available without a compatible charger, so maybe the same length has been retained? Looking forward to someone trying one out.
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[Lisaf01]

Maybe it was the vaprlife battery someone tried?

Tha vaprlife protected battery is 10.62*46mm
Trustfire protected shown in link is 1.81 in x 0.39 in (which is 9.9*46mm)

I would order some myself to test but I will be away and they would not get here in time. I hope someone does try them out, though I agree it will be a very close call if there is a raised strip.

You're right, I think the problem one was the vaprlife one.

 

[womblebat]

The PCB sits at the negative end, yes, but these protected batts also have a little contact strip running up from the negative end underneath the plastic cover on the body of the batt - this is noticible on some, if you check carefully.

Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't notice this tiny diameter difference, but in this precise application, it can be a problem.

Quite correct but it's virtually flush with the battery on my protected batts, no more raised than the joining seam on the plastic wrap of the battery, however i agree it could be a problem as imeo designed the slim using unprotected batts and it is a snug fit, until somebody has these batteries in hand i guess you pay your money and take your chance

 

[emonty]

Well, thank you all very much for the research performed. I really hope that we can get better batties, I don't mind paying for them, more then the one's from DX, but please let them be solid, reliable and that they last a bit longer then what is out there now.

 

[manolo2005]

sorry for this stupid questions .DX is in U.K.or in USA?

 

[Lisaf01]

sorry for this stupid questions .DX is in U.K.or in USA?

Not a stupid question at all.
DX are in China.