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Let me also add that as far as I know the Provari does not do Variable wattage.

I find the VW to be something I use far more than the VV. I like being able to swap out juice delivery devices and have the Vamo set the voltage to give me my set wattage no matter what the Ohms of the delivery device. It just means I start somewhere close to my ideal vape with no fiddling.

Other people leave it in VV mode and love it that way. Just a question of how one likes to do things. I am not much for fiddling with things.
I guess it might depend on what juices you vape.

If you're vaping a lot of fruit flavors, you might want to keep things at a wattage/voltage that is somewhat lower on the scale.
And if you are vaping tobaccos, coffees, or other darker and heaver flavors, then you might like to stay on the higher side of the scale.

But if you change things up a lot, you might want a device that can be moved to various voltages/wattages.
And if you do that, then changing voltage and wattage are the same thing really.
 

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Well I can afford one... but how can I justify the cost when I can buy nearly the exact same thing for a fraction? I'm sorry but the patriotism card doesn't sway me, its not 100% made in America anyways.

I'd pay the money, I really would.... But why, lol? I need a good reason or else I just feel like a chump.

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Lol, I don't think anyone played the patriotism card. But yes, if the benefits don't match the increase in price for you personally than go for the VAMO.

But I'd ease up on implying that people who don't the hobby the same way as you are "chumps". People who are willing to pay extra have their own legitimate reasons. Some people may accuse me of being a chump for paying 50 cents per ml of eliquid when I could buy from China or make my own for less than 10 cents, but their opinion doesn't make a lick of difference how I do my hobby.


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And frankly, if these devices are so touchy that they're going to die, or explode, or whatever because I charged it a little too long? I don't need that kind of stress. If you know a vendor that warranties this stuff, that would be helpful. If I pay for it, I just want it to work like it should for a reasonable amount of time.

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If I might make a suggestion.
Take a look at the Itaste MVP.
When it's done charging it absolutely turns off. It's really easy to use.
A great beginners pV as long as you don't mind the elegant box.

1. It charges off of any Micro USB Cord [most cel phones use that]
2. Battery is built in so no battery or charger decisions
3. VV Variable Voltage- you'll vape at the same temperature
4. Battery life is an incredible 2 to 2 1/2 days

This is the unit for people who just want to vape without all the technical headaches.

The other solution is to move to Bottom Feeders and RBA. But that's more complicated.
Baby Steps
 
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Lol, I don't think anyone played the patriotism card. But yes, if the benefits don't match the increase in price for you personally than go for the VAMO.

But I'd ease up on implying that people who don't the hobby the same way as you are "chumps". People who are willing to pay extra have their own legitimate reasons. Some people may accuse me of being a chump for paying 50 cents per ml of eliquid when I could buy from China or make my own for less than 10 cents, but their opinion doesn't make a lick of difference how I do my hobby.


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I didn't read her post as saying others who pay it are chumps only that she herself would feel like one.
 

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I didn't read her post as saying others who pay it are chumps only that she herself would feel like one.

I didn't say she said that, I said she implied that. Saying an action makes oneself a chump is implying others who do that action makes them chumps. It's in the laws of chump-dom.

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I didn't say she said that, I said she implied that. Saying an action makes oneself a chump is implying others who do that action makes them chumps. It's in the laws of chump-dom.

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And I am saying I didn't read any such implication in it. I think you are being oversensitive about it. But that is just my opinion.
 

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Lol, I don't think anyone played the patriotism card. But yes, if the benefits don't match the increase in price for you personally than go for the VAMO.

But I'd ease up on implying that people who don't the hobby the same way as you are "chumps". People who are willing to pay extra have their own legitimate reasons. Some people may accuse me of being a chump for paying 50 cents per ml of eliquid when I could buy from China or make my own for less than 10 cents, but their opinion doesn't make a lick of difference how I do my hobby.


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I didn't imply anyone was a chump. I said I would feel like a chump if I bought one but could've got it for less. So please, if you would ease up on the twisting of words, that would be appreciated.

I don't have a problem with anybody buying whatever they want. Ill pay $100 or more for a pair of jeans because they cover 3/4inch more of my hind end. So I get it. I was just asking for good reasons why. Don't read into it more than that. Ok? I do appreciate the input and mean no offense.

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And I am saying I didn't read any such implication in it. I think you are being oversensitive about it. But that is just my opinion.

That's ok, different people read things differently. I find it odd you're defending a woman who's obviously able to speak for herself if she has any issues. Maybe you think you spot a weak, helpless woman and are jumping to her aid?

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That's ok, different people read things differently. I find it odd you're defending a woman who's obviously able to speak for herself if she has any issues. Maybe you think you spot a weak, helpless woman and are jumping to her aid?

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I am not going to take the bait since you are obviously looking for a fight. It actually had nothing to do with her and everything to do with you misrepresenting what was in her post and trying to stir up some garbage.

With this I am out of here.

Sharon if you have other Vamo questions please feel free to PM me. If I stay in this thread I am going to end up saying something unfortunate.
 

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That's ok, different people read things differently. I find it odd you're defending a woman who's obviously able to speak for herself if she has any issues. Maybe you think you spot a weak, helpless woman and are jumping to her aid?

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Ok, you need to say something relevant or just take a little walk.

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Keep in mind that the low price you see for the Vamo only includes the body (and maybe some cheap charger and batts that scare me to use)
If you buy the Vamo (or provari too I think) , you still need to get a good charger and several good batteries to rotate from PV to charger and back. You will also need to do some reading and learning as well.

So, the Vamo, 6 batts, and the Nitecore i4 intellicharger that will stop charging when the batts are done charging for safety and shipping ran me close to $100.

I ordered my Vamo from a company in China that sells the stainless steel (which is the most recommended version) will run you about $30 for body only. There are companies in the US that sell them for a few dollars more.

Remember, you're going to need at least two PV's, whatever they may be, to have a backup if one breaks. I have the Vamo and spinner for backup, but will probably buy a Sigelei VV VW Zmax down the road. This is a hobby to me now.

I didn't buy a Provari because I don't have that much money to spend all at once. If they break, you send it back and they fix it under warranty, so to me, you pay up front for down the road. I also hear the Provaris rarely ever break. I wanted variable wattage though as well, so Provari was out for me. If my Vamo breaks after a while, I will buy a new one if I even want a Vamo when that happens, by then maybe some new technology or style will be out and I have that choice to upgrade so to speak.

We'll be here for you whatever you decide Sharon, we don't want you to have to go back to smoking. The right PV for you is the one that keeps you off the analogs in the long run. Good luck :)
 

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Keep in mind that the low price you see for the Vamo only includes the body (and maybe some cheap charger and batts that scare me to use)
If you buy the Vamo (or provari too I think) , you still need to get a good charger and several good batteries to rotate from PV to charger and back. You will also need to do some reading and learning as well.

So, the Vamo, 6 batts, and the Nitecore i4 intellicharger that will stop charging when the batts are done charging for safety and shipping ran me close to $100.

This ^

Don't skimp on the charger and batteries, you want quality for safety. The Nitecore i4 mentioned is a great charger and can be found under $25. Batteries you want to get IMR, NOT "protected" batteries, and from a reputable source so you're getting what the label says it is. AW and Efest are trusted brands of batteries. They run from $5-$9 depending on the size and where you buy. Be sure to read in the VAMO sub-forum here to learn as much as you can. Rechargable battery devices are very safe with a little research and common sense.

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I chose the Panasonic NCR 18650B unprotected batts 3400mah for my Vamo and Nitecore i4, they are great quality as well. They say to stay away from anything with "fire" in the name. Just wanted to say a few more things, throw some info out there.

I keep saying that my spinner is my backup, and it is, but I forgot to say that I sit here right now with both Spinner and VAmo at my side and I use them both every day now. I have a tank on each on with different flavors and I switch between them. The Spinner has VV, and the wattage your vaping at can be calculated if you know the ohms of your coil head and the voltage you have it set. The spinner is a great device when it's working!!

My protank coil heads do not have the ohms written on them, but my Vamo can read and tell me what ohms they are and let me set the watts and forget about it like Myrany explained in her posts so well.

I will say this, the Spinner is easier to vape in bed with for sure LOL

I will also say that you might just need to get a ProVari AND a Vamo lol

I can think of 5 ProVari owners I know here right now that have bought themselves a Vamo as well! :)

Everybody is different, find what works for you.
 

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my very first battery a 650 ego twist, a provari (a very generous act allowed me to adopt said provari), and a vamo go everywhere with me :D
upstairs..downstairs..shopping...work....they don't like the truck that much...honestly i think they like it just fine...it's their heads (tanks) that don't like traveling...or work...but they still go.

on adventures i run the vamo in shorty mode...at home in 18650 mode.
i also have a 400mah ego, and a digital VV ego....which is on it's last legs and it is newer than everything else....

I have a nitecore I2 (like steph's only 2 bays instead of 4), 3 batteries for the provari, 3 18350s for vamo shorty mode, 2 18650s for vamo in super mondo nightstick mode (i'm 5'2" for pete's sake)

i really feel like i use all of them equally...and have decided the right delivery system for the right device is paramount.
I have some lower ohm cartos (1.8ohm-ish) that are fabulous on the ego...not so much on the vamo/prov
i switch between all three ALL day long

the biggest "pro" i have seen from the provari camp is that you can spend the higher ticket price for a provari now and not have to keep replacing other devices (aka RIP purple spinner)....that you will end up spending the same amount or more than the cost of a provari over time.
Being USA made is VERY important to some folks (and really should be at least a consideration to all of us that live in the usa...another thread/time for that LOL) but even provape has posted here that not all components are USA made...they just really can't be.
it isn't complicated...less complicated than trying to read the dang volts on a twist! (no more flashlight/granny glasses for setting voltage all the time...i've read that the spinner is easier to read)

the biggest "pro" i have seen from the vamo camp is variable wattage (aside from the lower cost). I had a shopping cart with a spinner/twist combo for more than 3 weeks that i just couldn't ever pull the trigger on....once i figured out that i could get the vamo+batteries for about the same price (with free shipping and a coupon code) i thanked myself for holding back.

currently these three devices are what i see recommended the most (outside of mech mods, rbas, and super duper fancy mega ultra mods)
the vamo in shorty mode, provari, ego 650mah are all pretty much the same height...with the ego being considerably skinnier. (there is also a provari mini)
honestly...i got the vamo because it was a reasonable price, had two lengths/battery options, and i wanted to put a smiley mouth on it's scared little robot face (totally serious)..which i still haven't done LOL


bottom line is that whatever keeps you happily vaping along is what is important...whether it is 30 ego type batteries or one provari/vamo/whatchahizzle.
(i don't recommend having only one of anything...devices, delivery systems, batteries, juice flavors, etc...just sayin' :D)

phew...i dunno if anyone read all of that...talk about a monster post LOL
 

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Nice post Hottie!

My VAMO pretty much dominates my home use. For out and about I have eGo Twists and even a couple cig-a-likes, such as a Volt. I've been through Rivas, Kgos, Pig Cigs, etc. and any battery device I've bought has been used until the end of it's life.

And very true about back-ups. My Xtar charger was my only charger so I was unable to use my APV until a new one came in. I still need to get a back-up APV. I use rebuildables, so as long as I have several yards of wick and wire I don't need to worry about not having a topper. Having more than enough juice on hand has never been a problem.

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thanks jerms :) (i worried it was too lengthy...for sure my longest on ECF so far LOL)

i'm jumping in the DIY pool first..and then the big kid rba pool :) (figured out that more than 50% of money spent since day 1 had been on juice! what the.....)

ETA: oh yeah...i keep meaning to search/post...what is the responsible way to dispose of a power source that has fulfilled it's service?
 

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thanks jerms :) (i worried it was too lengthy...for sure my longest on ECF so far LOL)

i'm jumping in the DIY pool first..and then the big kid rba pool :) (figured out that more than 50% of money spent since day 1 had been on juice! what the.....)

ETA: oh yeah...i keep meaning to search/post...what is the responsible way to dispose of a power source that has fulfilled it's service?

A post that has good info or has something to say is never too long in my eyes. Can't go by me if a post is too long though, I've written several that I'm sure people have just skimmed over or skipped figuring it's too long lol.

I've spent way more than 50% of money on juice than hardware, which is what I prefer. Flavor is my favorite part of the hobby, hardware's just necessary to do that. Though I also have periods where I like to dig into the hardware side.

There's lots of places that will take batteries for disposal. Best Buy and Office Depot are a couple I know of that do. Not sure about places like Target and Wal Mart, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do too.

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I'm curious. Could someone that owns both VAMO and Provari comment on the user-interface?

I see a lot of button clicking on videos with Provari but maybe it's the same with VAMO. IDK. I think the Vamo has more buttons...but I'm not sure. Maybe it's just accessed differently. That's a big user-preference thing that weighs in.

I don't know why they just don't make them talk, and get e-mail too......;) :D Maybe voice access too. People would be running around saying "OK, e-cig".... ;)
 
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