Battery dead already?

[Robino1]

I'm curious. Could someone that owns both VAMO and Provari comment on the user-interface?

I see a lot of button clicking on videos with Provari but maybe it's the same with VAMO. IDK. I think the Vamo has more buttons...but I'm not sure. Maybe it's just accessed differently. That's a big user-preference thing that weighs in.

I don't know why they just don't make them talk, and get e-mail too...... Maybe voice access too. People would be running around saying "OK, e-cig"....

I don't own the Vamo but yes it does have 2 buttons to access maybe different menus (?). The Provari has only 1. The instructions for the provari actually make it seem more complicated than it really is. Just do five clicks to turn on the menu then scroll through till you get to what your looking for. If you scroll past the one you want, keep going, you cycle around shortly. One of my favorite options on the Provari is being able to turn the light off so when you press the power button nothing lights up. Makes stealth vaping even easier.

The menu is very simplistic: Pu = power up; Pd = power down; Po = power off; Cb = check battery; Ao = atomizer (checks atomizer ohms); Lo = LED off (light). When you get to the one you want to change or check, wait a second and it will show you what the reading is. If you want to go higher in power, as soon as you see what it is at, push the power button and it goes up. Go too far and you can keep going since it will cycle around again. Super simple.

I tried going to a site that sold the Vamo and couldn't find an instruction manual. Maybe one will come with it?

Hopefully someone will come along and answer that question.

 

[Myrany]

I don't own the Vamo but yes it does have 2 buttons to access maybe different menus (?). The Provari has only 1. The instructions for the provari actually make it seem more complicated than it really is. Just do five clicks to turn on the menu then scroll through till you get to what your looking for. If you scroll past the one you want, keep going, you cycle around shortly. One of my favorite options on the Provari is being able to turn the light off so when you press the power button nothing lights up. Makes stealth vaping even easier.

The menu is very simplistic: Pu = power up; Pd = power down; Po = power off; Cb = check battery; Ao = atomizer (checks atomizer ohms); Lo = LED off (light). When you get to the one you want to change or check, wait a second and it will show you what the reading is. If you want to go higher in power, as soon as you see what it is at, push the power button and it goes up. Go too far and you can keep going since it will cycle around again. Super simple.

I tried going to a site that sold the Vamo and couldn't find an instruction manual. Maybe one will come with it?

Hopefully someone will come along and answer that question.

You can download the VAMO manual here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/359600-vamo-vv-vw-v2-user-manual-download.html

 

[Robino1]

You can download the VAMO manual here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/359600-vamo-vv-vw-v2-user-manual-download.html

Thanks!!!

 

[Boeriemore]

What confuses me about some of my e-go batteries is that while charging the red light on the charger is on.
When it turns green it means that the battery is fully charged.
Testing the battery I get readings of about 3.4V, yet the batteries light flashes indicating that it is flat.
Can anyone explain where the problem lies?

 

[hottierockstar]

I'm curious. Could someone that owns both VAMO and Provari comment on the user-interface?

I see a lot of button clicking on videos with Provari but maybe it's the same with VAMO. IDK. I think the Vamo has more buttons...but I'm not sure. Maybe it's just accessed differently. That's a big user-preference thing that weighs in.

I don't know why they just don't make them talk, and get e-mail too...... Maybe voice access too. People would be running around saying "OK, e-cig"....

and have a clock!
and a "vapiri" -
"hello hottie...your juice is low, time to refill"
"hottie, it's time for work, get off ecf"
"hottie, i need a new battery"


vamo:
- big button = 5 clicks on/off
- right button clicked is "up", held down 2 seconds is resistance check, held down for 15 seconds switches between no1/no2 modes (avg/rms)
- left button clicked is "down", held down 2 seconds is resistance check, held down for 15 seconds switches between no1/no2 modes (avg/rms)
- both buttons held down for like 10 seconds switches display between V and W on display
- does not retain volt settings when changing battery, or switching between modes
- have to turn on when battery is changed
- can access all settings when display is on
- flashes when battery is lo and display reads "Lo"

provari -
- one button 5 clicks accesses menu
you have to stop clicking and wait about 2-3 seconds when you see the item you want to access or you just go in a loop of PU -- PD -- then you click the button to change up/down/on/off
Pu - power up (5 clicks)
Pd - power down (7 clicks)
Po - power off/on (9 clicks)
Cb - check battery (11 clicks)
Ao - attomizer ohm check (13 clicks)
Lo - led on/off (button light on or off when pressed/vaping - 15 clicks)
- if you access a sub menu you have to wait until display shuts off to go back and start clicking again for another menu
- retains settings on battery change/power off
- has error codes E1-8 (i think) and Op (open circuit on faulty atty or not fully connected)
- flashes when battery is low

now i have to go to work (my ego told me)

edit: fixed what was incorrect (hi myrany!)

 

[hottierockstar]

What confuses me about some of my e-go batteries is that while charging the red light on the charger is on.
When it turns green it means that the battery is fully charged.
Testing the battery I get readings of about 3.4V, yet the batteries light flashes indicating that it is flat.
Can anyone explain where the problem lies?

are you sure it isn't indicating the however many second cut off? (most batteries have a auto cut off when the button has been down for more than X number of seconds)

 

[Myrany]

One error on the vamo info Hottie.

THe Vamo DOES retain wattage settings on a battery change but does NOT retain VOltage settings

 

[hottierockstar]

One error on the vamo info Hottie.

THe Vamo DOES retain wattage settings on a battery change but does NOT retain VOltage settings

fixed it! (i am not using it in W yet...i burnt a carto goofing around with it LOL)

 

[Wow1420]

What confuses me about some of my e-go batteries is that while charging the red light on the charger is on.
When it turns green it means that the battery is fully charged.
Testing the battery I get readings of about 3.4V, yet the batteries light flashes indicating that it is flat.
Can anyone explain where the problem lies?

I have had two ego batteries die that way. They appear to be charged when connected to a known good charger but the button flashes when pushed with a clearo attached. One was my fault, I tried using the wrong charger (a 510 charger instead of an ego charger) Both battery and charger got hot and the ego never worker after that. The charger still works fine with the 510 battery. I'm not sure what went wrong with the first. It was on the charger it came with (my only one at the time), the charger and battery got hot and neither worked correctly after that. I figure either the cheap charger failed and destroyed the battery, the ego circuit board may have malfunctioned and killed the charger by drawing two much power or maybe too much liquid in the charger battery connection caused a short that fried both.

I have a third dead Ego where the center post twisted and broke the wire to the circuit board. That one is fixable if I ever manage to get the head off the body to resolder the wire.

I will still use egos outside because of the compact size, but I will keep backups and keep the chargers on a piece of heavy ceramic tile. At home I like my Jedi light saber, er, Vamo, and other replaceable battery mods. Actually, I have a 14500 (AA size) battery mod in the mail from China, I'm hoping that will be compact enough to use in place of the egos at least some of the time.

Sorry for the rambling.....

 

[PeteC2]

Wall plug. Why not overnight?

Because most chargers have no sensor to shut off when your battery charge is complete, and in fact, while leaving it in once charged you are wearing out the battery life.

You should remove your battery from the charger as soon as it is fully charged.

Unfortunately many of these kits have instructions that fail to mention this.

 

[DC2]

Because most chargers have no sensor to shut off when your battery charge is complete, and in fact, while leaving it in once charged you are wearing out the battery life.

You should remove your battery from the charger as soon as it is fully charged.

Unfortunately many of these kits have instructions that fail to mention this.

For years now I've been under the impression that all of our chargers have a sensor, and that leaving them on the charger does not hurt them.
The main reason for taking them off the charger is because the longer they are on there the more chance for something to go wrong.

If that is wrong then I certainly want to know it, but I really don't think it is.

 

[Stephuhnator]

What confuses me about some of my e-go batteries is that while charging the red light on the charger is on.
When it turns green it means that the battery is fully charged.
Testing the battery I get readings of about 3.4V, yet the batteries light flashes indicating that it is flat.
Can anyone explain where the problem lies?

Did you test your battery when fully charged, or after fully draining it? The Vamo displays Lo when my 18650 batts drain down to 3.4v (or is it 3.2v?) and cuts itself off to keep the batteries from draining to dangerously low levels which is a nice safety feature and I think the ego batts do the same and will blink a certain amount of times and won't fire when you've drained your battery low enough to require a charge. I always keep a check on my Vamo battery meter and recharge my batts at around 3.4- 3.5 v, but I am not sure of the cut off on the ego batts.

 

[AttyPops]

For years now I've been under the impression that all of our chargers have a sensor, and that leaving them on the charger does not hurt them.
The main reason for taking them off the charger is because the longer they are on there the more chance for something to go wrong.

If that is wrong then I certainly want to know it, but I really don't think it is.

I go by that same set of assumptions.

I *think* what could happen is that a battery somehow fails such that it never reads fully charged and then it just keeps getting charged forever and heats up, fails more, ....problem. But that's a total SWAG.

That's why your point about taking them off is a good one too...so if it's been, say for example, 3 hours and it still isn't charged...you can catch it.

I do confess to charging overnight sometimes.....

I'm less worried about the trickle charge part. After all, they have PV's with PT functionality that trickle charge constantly.

 

[Robino1]

Because most chargers have no sensor to shut off when your battery charge is complete, and in fact, while leaving it in once charged you are wearing out the battery life.

You should remove your battery from the charger as soon as it is fully charged.

Unfortunately many of these kits have instructions that fail to mention this.

In too many cases there are no instructions at all. That's part of the reason there are so many threads asking some of the same questions over and over again.

This is in no way a criticism of the abundance of multiple threads, it is just a fact of forum life.

 

[Kent C]

DC2, atty, as has been pointed out by the more techy members, Scottbee, Rocketman and others, and the manufacturers themselves - both the charger and the battery have charge protections built in and the probability of them both blowing at the same time on the same charging cycle is rare but when you consider the number of users and the number or charges done, that probability lowers considerably for the whole of users while for the single user it remains a low probability. And we've seen a few times on this forum where there's been explosions - probably others for those who don't post here or didn't report.

I routinely check all charger stations before leaving or going to bed and still I've missed a few If I'm near a charger like at the computer or the 'tv chair' I'll put a few fingers on them to check for heat. The one eGo-t explosion that was reported here and for which Joyetech replaced the batt and repaired the kitchen floor, iirc, I'm pretty sure ended with Joyetech upgrading their short and charge protection - they may have been headed in that direction anyway but it was After that event that the new charge protection for the eGo-c, eGo-c upgrades and Twist occurred. And Rocketman and one other on a different forum tried to blow up the new eGo-c protection batts without success. He ruined a few but they never blew up.

 

[AttyPops]

Good point.

I just KNOW that all chargers have some type of ....."checking" function in them. That's how they work. I've never seen a charger that didn't have a light that changed when charged. In order to do that, you have to have a checking function.....

That's not to say they don't trickle charge and/or condition and/or monitor the charge when "done".

I still think it's a good idea to A) Charge in a safe place and B) not leave them on after charged and C) keep an eye on em. But....the "Most chargers have no sensor" comment doesn't make sense to me......

 

[SharonMM]

So going forward, I do have 2 more spinners coming my way in vape mail. All this talk about chargers is making me wonder. Is there a specific type of charger I should be using for spinners? The one she sold me at the cig store says-
Input: DC 5V
Output: DC 4.2V 420mA

Then the wall adaptor I used with it says
Input:
AC 100-240V 50/60Hz .2A max
Output: 5V-.2A

I have no idea what any of this stuff means. Just, what kind of charger is best for a spinner? Thanks

 

[AttyPops]

So going forward, I do have 2 more spinners coming my way in vape mail. All this talk about chargers is making me wonder. Is there a specific type of charger I should be using for spinners? The one she sold me at the cig store says-
Input: DC 5V
Output: DC 4.2V 420mA

Then the wall adaptor I used with it says
Input:
AC 100-240V 50/60Hz .2A max
Output: 5V-.2A

I have no idea what any of this stuff means. Just, what kind of charger is best for a spinner? Thanks

The wall adapter is a problem. Are you sure it says .2A max on the OUTPUT of the wall adapter????
Show her those things and explain:
The wall adapter is only outputting .2 amps. That's 200 mA
The charger wants to output 420 mA (.42 amps).

So that's not the best combo. She should have given you a better wall wart IMHO.

 

[AttyPops]

As a general rule chargers are sold with PV's and you should use the charger that comes with the PV and even label them. If you're buying from a store like that...they should know what goes with what.

 

[Jerms]

The wall adapter is a problem. Are you sure it says .2A max on the OUTPUT of the wall adapter????
Show her those things and explain:
The wall adapter is only outputting .2 amps. That's 200 mA
The charger wants to output 420 mA (.42 amps).

So that's not the best combo. She should have given you a better wall wart IMHO.

My wall adapter is 500mA output and the USB charger is 500mA input and 420mA output. I don't know if a 200mA output wall adapter would be hard on the USB charger (or vice-versa) but it will for sure more than double the charging time.

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