The VK batteries don't have the slot in the center post, so the carto has to. I think there are some older cartos without the slot, but AFAIK all the new 808 cartos have the slot.
I was a manual battery guy before my visit. Steve gave me the XL manual and one of the black auto shorties to try. To me, they both hit exactly the same. I like a middle-of-the-road draw. Not like sucking on a McDonald's milkshake and not like sucking on an empty straw. More like drinking a soda thru a straw (if any of that made sense). These autos have the perfect draw for me.
Yes, I got carried away with the batteries.

Some are for my son and I imagine I'll wind up giving some away. For now though, these are my toys!
