10 seconds IS enough if it shows any type of damage. Doesn't matter if its just bubbling. Anywhere I have read on battery safety it always makes a point that if a wrap gets damaged in anyway don't use it. I had a short in a mech for less then that probably and the flat bottom recessed into the battery and killed my sgold plated spring in my mechs button.
Battery got very hot, need advice...
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Not only should you not use it, you should keep this battery in a fireproof place until you get a chance to recycle it.
If you have a crystalline micro-short (which is the most common reason why the battery would have a shorter life after a charge) this can grow over time; slowly at first, but once it gets past a certain point it can go into runaway. This happens even if the battery isn't connected to anything, as it's an internal process that happens inside the battery. It can take hours, days, even weeks for this to happen (although hours is the most common timeframe). So until you get rid of it, keep it someplace where it won't burn your house down in the middle of the night!
If you have a crystalline micro-short (which is the most common reason why the battery would have a shorter life after a charge) this can grow over time; slowly at first, but once it gets past a certain point it can go into runaway. This happens even if the battery isn't connected to anything, as it's an internal process that happens inside the battery. It can take hours, days, even weeks for this to happen (although hours is the most common timeframe). So until you get rid of it, keep it someplace where it won't burn your house down in the middle of the night!
What about if the wrap gets slightly torn near the top (the "button top" end)? I have an almost brand-new battery that has a small tear in the wrap right at the button end. I've seen ZERO weird activity from the battery; no heating, no warmth, no oddness either on the charger or in a mod -- it's an AW battery.
Andria
Yes it lightened the color and the lighting was bad. I have ordered 2 new Sammys from Illumn.com. As many here said @ $6-7 each it isn't worth the risk! And I still have 2 batts that are good!
Where is a good place to drop off the dud for recycling?
rewraps are cheap.....I'd not think twice in a VV but in a mech I'd check and see how wide the top pin is. If theres any chance of a double strike I'd put it on injured reserve until I got a rewrap on it.
Hmmm... when you say 'top pin', what part are you talking about? I don't know a lot of the technical terminology.
The tear doesn't expose any part of the battery that isn't normally exposed; I've been very careful not to mess with it in any way, not to open it further and risk tearing it further. It lays perfectly flat, no "dog ear-ing".
Andria
PS: I do use this battery with a mech, but always with a Kick, so if the "top pin" is some part of that...?
Good Call Darryl.
BTW - Where did you get your Batteries? I'm in the Market for 2 but many places I usually go with are Sold Out.
Andria,
I'll explain the danger, and then you can figure out whether it might be an issue for you or not. (I suspect that with a kick, it's not an issue).
The wrap is supposed to electrically isolate the outer case of the battery, so that the only place you can get the negative contact is on the bottom.
If the wrap is torn down the side, then the outer case could come in contact with the tube of the mod, and fire it, even without the button being pressed.
If the wrap is torn at the top, some mods will make contact with both the positive connection to the battery AND the top of the outer case. This is very bad; it will directly short out the battery. A kick has a smaller top contact (smaller than the button-top of the battery) so it shouldn't do this.
Do make sure the tear won't allow an accidental connection; re-wrapping a battery is fairly easy, or you can even tack down the tear with something.
Very Good Advice twgbonehead.
BTW - I like your Avatar. Somewhere Maxwell is Smiling.
Yup.
Happened to me with a no-name battery that came with an early version vamo several years ago (when used in another mod).
Battery wrap is cheap and simple. I've also used scotch tape in a pinch, but some battery mods, particularly cheap mech clones, have a tighter inside diameter than others, and wrap (or tape) may not work.
Ok, I had a good look at the injured battery, and I don't think it's a problem; the tear appears to be only in the outermost wrap, but there appears to be an inner wrap, which isn't torn or damaged in any way.
And after several tries, I finally got a pic where the tear is more or less visible -- I've tried to keep it completely flat, as I said, so it's kinda hard to see even with your eyes, nevermind a camera!
You can see the black inner wrap, and it's undamaged. But yeah, I'll put some tape over it, so it doesn't tear any further. And just to forestall some well-meaning but unnecessary comment, yes that is a genuine AW battery; I got it from sweet-vapes.com, an authorized reseller.
Andria
And after several tries, I finally got a pic where the tear is more or less visible -- I've tried to keep it completely flat, as I said, so it's kinda hard to see even with your eyes, nevermind a camera!
You can see the black inner wrap, and it's undamaged. But yeah, I'll put some tape over it, so it doesn't tear any further. And just to forestall some well-meaning but unnecessary comment, yes that is a genuine AW battery; I got it from sweet-vapes.com, an authorized reseller.
Andria
Thanks Darryl.
Their Shipping was Reasonable and I liked that they Take PayPal. So I went ahead and got a Pair of Batteries from them.
You just Can't Every seem to have Enough Batteries.
LOL
Yeah, they have pretty fast shipping to out od San Jose, CA!
...and at $6 per 25R, it was easy to throw out the damaged LG! Oh, and if you didn't know it, they throw in a free batt case when you buy 2 or more batts!
Happy Vaping!
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