Battery Pack Question With USB Passthru

[yvilla]

Here Houdini, in case you still don't believe us women, a snip from the spec sheet of your Duracell thingy, showing you the 1000 mAh figure is the capacity (ie runtime), not the output (current):

http://www.ebatts.com/docs/dr7000li_specsheet.pdf

 

[Cellmeister]

Here Houdini, in case you still don't believe us women, a snip from the spec sheet of your Duracell thingy, showing you the 1000 mAh figure is the capacity (ie runtime), not the output (current):

http://www.ebatts.com/docs/dr7000li_specsheet.pdf

yVilla Thanks,

I had posted it a few times on the Duracell Thread with all the links & manuals as well as more.

Thanks

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Yes Sun,

and it's A Slow Charger. If you look back on my other post's, I talk about How USB Power Packs are either Chargers or Power Supplies and or Combo Units.

Keep Vapin!

Cell is right on point here--why is there an issue? The last I looked at this thread, Cell stated:

"OK FACTS: (2) Different Battery mAh What this Means:

1) "Battery capacity is 1700 mAh" Is That is The Actual Battery Size In mAh & Rating Capacity (this is how all batts are, but include the Voltage output as well)

2) "Output Current 1000 mA"

Sounds right to me--Sun

 

[yvilla]

has anyone been ale to make those packs work with a non inline batt passthrough?

Candy, I have both. And I am using the APC powerpack as we speak, with the Bestecig USB passthrough - no inline battery - and the APC is powering it just fine.

Is it only the duracell one that you have? If so, that's why it's not working.

 

[CandyGirl]

lol. i give up, no issue.
5v 1a output, that's fine. it's all you need.
it didn't work for me. sorry i said anything.
my bad.

 

[CandyGirl]

thank you yvilla,
i know you are trying to help. i just got leary about the APC when i read they were being discontinued. i'm going to order something this week. it's no big deal, more of a nice to have item. i just wanted to get my point across about the duracell packs not working. guess i need to work on my communication skills. lol.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

lol. i give up, no issue.
5v 1a output, that's fine. it's all you need.
it didn't work for me. sorry i said anything.
my bad.

Candy--There is an issue with the Duracell as is shown here--the lable shows 5v 1000mAh --As is reiterated here many times is that Duracell does not tell us the mA of their battery and that is deceptive as we all need to see the mA rating of 1000mA or 1amp. So yes, you asked a very ligitimate question--Sun

 

[CandyGirl]

i know sun, and i appreciate you are trying to help.
i was simply trying to keep anyone else from making the same mistake i did.
thank you.

 

[trog100]

he he he..

okay two points.. e cig atomizers run off 3.5 to 4 volts.. this is whats needed to directly power one.. not five volts....

now this thing here is a simple cheap external power pack that will directly power an e cig..

DealExtreme: $3.80 AA-Battery USB Emergency Backup Power and Charger Pack

with three 1.2 volt AA (metal hydride) cells in and a blank it will be 3.6 volts.. with four it will be 4.8 volts.. take your pick..

five volts is needed to recharge a single 3.7 to 4 volt lithium cell.. or to overcome the built in resistor USB e cig thingies have..

u need to find some way to get rid of the built in resister or battery in your pass thru thingy.. three metal hydride cells in the thing i linked to will then directly power your e cig.. leave in the resistor and four cells will do the job.. or charge the little battery in your pass thru thngy if it has one..

super cheap and it will work.. honest

trog

 

[Cellmeister]

he he he..

okay two points.. e cig atomizers run off 3.5 to 4 volts.. this is whats needed to directly power one.. not five volts....

now this thing here is a simple cheap external power pack that will directly power an e cig..

DealExtreme: $3.80 AA-Battery USB Emergency Backup Power and Charger Pack

with three 1.2 volt AA (metal hydride) cells in and a blank it will be 3.6 volts.. with four it will be 4.8 volts.. take your pick..

five volts is needed to recharge a single 3.7 to 4 volt lithium cell.. or to overcome the built in resistor USB e cig thingies have..

u need to find some way to get rid of the built in resister or battery in your pass thru thingy.. three metal hydride cells in the thing i linked to will then directly power your e cig.. leave in the resistor and four cells will do the job.. or charge the little battery in your pass thru thngy if it has one..

super cheap and it will work.. honest

trog

Trog,

Yeah Good

This "Thingy", I looked at reviews, not very well liked......

Maybe we can get some people to cut up their USB Pass Throughs, so they ruin it .

NOW Sell Them The "Thingy" and Make another "Thingy" to Use Instead?

I think You Get What U Pay For...

Keep Building Them ScrewDrivers!!!

 

[Houdini]

Here Houdini, in case you still don't believe us women, a snip from the spec sheet of your Duracell thingy, showing you the 1000 mAh figure is the capacity (ie runtime), not the output (current):

http://www.ebatts.com/docs/dr7000li_specsheet.pdf

Where did I say I don't believe you women? Look at my post #53. I know the difference between capacity and output. When you said "Take a look at any device you have hanging around, or take a look on the internet. Output is not measured in mAh!" I posted a picture of the package where it is listed as mAh. They are trying to make us believe thats the output of the device when it is actually the capacity and the output is listed on the back of the battery as .06mA. It's a deceiving practice. Even that spec sheet doesn't list output in A or mA.

 

[trog100]

Trog,

Yeah Good

This "Thingy", I looked at reviews, not very well liked......

Maybe we can get some people to cut up their USB Pass Throughs, so they ruin it .

NOW Sell Them The "Thingy" and Make another "Thingy" to Use Instead?

I think You Get What U Pay For...

Keep Building Them ScrewDrivers!!!

the screwdriver means u dont need the "thingies" its just a cheap plastic battery pack.. i have a couple of the cheap thingies coming.. but they are that simple they cant really not do the job.. ones assume a modicum of knowledge on the part of who wires em up but they will work..

we aint got enough time to build SDs but i can tell others how to do what everybody seems to want to do.. make a simple battery pack..

trog

 

[yvilla]

Where did I say I don't believe you women? Look at my post #53. I know the difference between capacity and output. When you said "Take a look at any device you have hanging around, or take a look on the internet. Output is not measured in mAh!" I posted a picture of the package where it is listed as mAh. They are trying to make us believe thats the output of the device when it is actually the capacity and the output is listed on the back of the battery as .06mA. It's a deceiving practice. Even that spec sheet doesn't list output in A or mA.

No, the spec sheet does not list the output at all.

And the picture you posted does not list the output either. It simply lists the battery capacity (an idea of the length in time it should run on a charge), and moreover, it lists it correctly in milliamp hours. Not misleading at all!

That is, not misleading unless someone thinks the mAh number means something it doesn't - which is why I've been trying to get Cell to correct his terminology in the first place!

 

[Blue Knight Max]

This is why I just use the APC Mobile Power pack for my usb passthru's. No drama with it, works all the time and it fits into a ipod case that I clip on my belt when on the road.

 

[Cellmeister]

Where did I say I don't believe you women? Look at my post #53. I know the difference between capacity and output. When you said "Take a look at any device you have hanging around, or take a look on the internet. Output is not measured in mAh!" I posted a picture of the package where it is listed as mAh. They are trying to make us believe thats the output of the device when it is actually the capacity and the output is listed on the back of the battery as .06mA. It's a deceiving practice. Even that spec sheet doesn't list output in A or mA.

I hear Ya Brother,

The Gas Bag Is Loose Tonight...

"How can I find out the size and capacity of a battery ?

Size and performance specifications for batteries are found in the product tables. Where available, specifications for Weight, Thickness, Talk and Stand-by time, milli-Ampere hours (mAh), and Voltage are provided."


- Capacity
- Compatibility

The Duracell Ad / Packaging is Intentional Deception...

 

[timh]

I found a power pack that works with the pass through that puresmoker sells.
It is a KENSINGTON PORTABLE POWER PACK at Tiger direct .com .
The output is 1.5 amps. I just got it in and it works great.

 

[timh]

that is 1.50 amps the model number is K38021

 

[newfie4ever]

Will this battery work?

dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4505

 

[badmonkey]

I'm confused, overwhelmed, and really not that bright to begin with.... so, would someone look this over and confirm for me that everything is compatable? I'm aware that the atomizers from Heaven's Gifts might need to be adapted.

Heaven's gifts DSE801 and DSE901
Bestecig USB battery for DSE801
Bestecig USB battery for DSE901
Kensington K38021US

 

[Corki2]

I have the dse901 and am using a 500ma Lenmar power supply with my non battery passthrough. The specs are: Capacity 2.5, Input 5VDC, 500ma max, Output 5VDC, 500ma max. What I have discovered is that you need to pull much more slowly to get it to work properly. My guess (because I have not earthly idea about Ma's and Mah's and am in no way educated about such things) is that it's either not heating the coil as quickly or perhaps as much, or both as other power supplies might, but mine is working. I don't know how long this power pack will keep it going because I just got it, but I have no issues with it's performance as long as I take slow steady draws.