Battery Pack Question With USB Passthru

[Houdini]

Take a look at any device you have hanging around, or take a look on the internet. Output is not measured in mAh! It's measured in mA (milliamps) or A (amps). Or sometimes even in watts. But never mAh! You'll see it if you only look. It will say mA or A on any device that lists its current output in amps or milliamps instead of watts.

What about this?

 

[ZambucaLu]

i have four USB devices rated 5v 1a output.
wall chargers and battery packs i purchased because i thought 5 volt 1 amp output would work. none of them do. i will, in the future, remember to ask if the passthrough being used already has a battery in it. my fault, i'm not blaming anyone.
it doesn't get my 90 dollars back though. lol.

Those should work Candy. I got a cheapo 1000ma wall charger and usb car adapter and they both work. Wonder what the problem is.

Lu

 

[CandyGirl]

where does it say output?

 

[ZambucaLu]

What about this?

That is the capacity Houdini....not the output. That is why they don't work.

Lu

 

[Cellmeister]

But Cell, when we are talking 1000ma.....aren't we talking about this? The current drawn....the output....has to be 1000ma or 1a for them to work?

Lu

Hi Lu,


The Atomizer Working Normally Will Possibly Seek About 1000 milliAmps from the USB Pass Through (lets not confuse with stock E-Cig Battery with / chips/boards) , The Battery Pack Should Put Out 5 Volts and 1000 mAh.

 

[ZambucaLu]

where does it say output?

It should say it specifically on the package.....but look specifically for output which will read mA....not mAh which is the capacity....as in the pic Houdini displayed.

Lu

 

[yvilla]

i have four USB devices rated 5v 1a output.
wall chargers and battery packs i purchased because i thought 5 volt 1 amp output would work. none of them do. i will, in the future, remember to ask if the passthrough being used already has a battery in it. my fault, i'm not blaming anyone.
it doesn't get my 90 dollars back though. lol.

CandyGirl, 1 amp output should work. Are you sure you're not having a different problem with your USB passthrough? Is it working on the computer, or not at all?

Others have found that with some passthroughs, the atomizer to passthrough connection is not connecting (for lack of a better word). So the passthrough is not working at all with a given atomizer. Have you seen those posts? And some have been able to get them to work with either a different atomizer, or by putting a little ball of aluminum foil right over the atomizer hole, to make the connection with the passthrough.

 

[ZambucaLu]

where does it say output?

Did you buy from a store or online?

Lu

 

[CandyGirl]

bought them online Lu 2 of them. they also have them in walmart. the duracell direct.com website has the full specs but i can't seem to find the exact page i looked up. i will use them for charging my other toys, but my point is, as yvilla pointed out, the capacity of the device is not the output. they simply don't work with a standard (no inline batt) passthrough. as i stated before, it's my fault for not asking. i just never thought someone would buy a portable battery for a passthrough that already contained a battery. lol.

 

[CandyGirl]

yvilla, my passthroughs work beautifully with my PC. it's those duracell packs that they don't work with.

 

[Cellmeister]

Cell, in your recent posts you are primarily talking about battery capacity.

What I am talking about is output of a battery pack or power source. Here is an example of the specs taken from a device much like the APC, that would in fact power our passthroughs:

Specifications:
Battery Capacity: 26.6Wh (most camcorder's standard batteries only have 5Wh~10Wh capacity. For example, Sony NP-FM50 battery is 8.5Wh, running 2~3 hours, this battery has 2.5 more times capacity, so it can run same camcorder up to 5~7 hours)
Battery Output Voltage: 5V
DC Output: 1500mA Max
Size: 5.2"x 3.1"x 0.6"
Weight: 275g

And here is the url: 5V Pocket-Size Lithium Battery Pack

The battery capacity is listed in watt hours, although many are indeed listed in millamp hours.

But the output is listed in milliamps (mA), as I've been trying to get across to you for so long. NOT mAh.

After this, I'm done. Keep on confusing people about the difference between the two if you want to.

Yes Your Right, There Is No Need For You To Confuse Everybody Here, So Please Stop.

Just because you see an ad, spec sheet, a package, its mostly marketing hype they use and it does not mean its the actual truth if you have not figured that out yet. Example E-Cigs Battery Life...

Fact: Manufacturers Spec Cards, spec sheets, packaging ads are not 100% accurate on cell phones, batteries, chargers, AC & DC Supplies, small electronics, etc. Most of the Specs from Major Manufacturers (I cant say the names, but all the major electronics manufacturers) Are Not Just Wrong But False On Their Specs, Ads, Compatibility & Other! This is FACT!

Further Their is a Major Difference in Types & Ratings of Batteries when it comes to what they are designed or / to function, so they add & use other ratings, ie, small electric motors, fans, electronics, camera's, cell phones, etc.

We are Talking About Rechargeable USB Battery Powered Powers Supplies / Chargers here.

If u want to get your electric toaster out, I'm ready...

Do I Have to Say More!

 

[CandyGirl]

has anyone been ale to make those packs work with a non inline batt passthrough?

 

[Houdini]

The Duracell is deceiving. The package lists 1000mAh on the back of the package but on the back of the actual battery is says .06A which is what it should say somewhere on the outside of the package.

 

[ZambucaLu]

i just never thought someone would buy a portable battery for a passthrough that already contained a battery. lol.

I didn't think they were talking about that one either. If I had realized that, I would have said something sooner. They said it worked with their passthrough. Now we know to ask if theirs has the battery box or not. Live and learn!

Lu

 

[Sun Vaporer]

has anyone been ale to make those packs work with a non inline batt passthrough?

The Duracell does not work with a non inline battery like puresmoker's --only Yangs inline battery and that is because all it is doing is charging the battery in the passthough---Sun

 

[Cellmeister]

Please Note Again; The Duracell USB Battery Power Pack Is Not Usable with Standard Type USB E-Cig Pass Through Units!

The Capacity & Output is Not Sufficient and the 1000 mAh is The Battery Size, Not The Output Rating!

SO IT DOES NOT WORK!!!

I am sure someone will say it does.......

Keep Vapin!

 

[ZambucaLu]

The Duracell is deceiving. The package lists 1000mAh on the back of the package but on the back of the actual battery is says .06A which is what it should say somewhere on the outside of the package.

Yes, exactly. Even online they will show the capacity and not the output....that's why it gets confusing. Sometimes you can't even find the specs that show the output. I wish they wouldn't do that

Lu

 

[Cellmeister]

Yes, exactly. Even online they will show the capacity and not the output....that's why it gets confusing. Sometimes you can't even find the specs that show the output. I wish they wouldn't do that

Lu

Sorry Lu,

I wrote a few post's down on this marketing crap, now you can see how they deceive people. Even on the Duracell PDF Spec Sheet Link I Posted, They Did Not Provide The Information & Intentionally Confused the Customers with 1000 mAh, which is the battery size & not the output.

Sorry

 

[CandyGirl]

i guess my point is, when people see things like "all you need is 5V and 1a output" it can spark a little spending spree that doesn't end with expected results. just food for thought. this is all new to me so i tend to put my trust in the veterans. no disrepect intended, just a heads up. manufacturers spec sheets and ohm's law postings only reinforce the illusion that the information is correct and the product should (will) work. not all of us are as smart as you guys, we just want our stuff to work. lol.

 

[Cellmeister]

The Duracell does not work with a non inline battery like puresmoker's --only Yangs inline battery and that is because all it is doing is charging the battery in the passthough---Sun

Yes Sun,

and it's A Slow Charger. If you look back on my other post's, I talk about How USB Power Packs are either Chargers or Power Supplies and or Combo Units.

Keep Vapin!