Battery question smok alien 220w
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Welcome and glad you joined.
I have provided a little more information which might answer more of your questions about batteries.
Might like to read:
18650 Battery Buying Guide for Vapor Users – Wake and Vape Blog
(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum
Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety: Will You Marry Me? - Mt Baker Vapor
http://ecigarettereviewed.com/e-cig-charging-safety
Vaping 101: Battery Safety
I have provided a little more information which might answer more of your questions about batteries.
Might like to read:
18650 Battery Buying Guide for Vapor Users – Wake and Vape Blog
(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum
Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety: Will You Marry Me? - Mt Baker Vapor
http://ecigarettereviewed.com/e-cig-charging-safety
Vaping 101: Battery Safety
No. There aren't any 18650s with a capacity of 4000 mah that are safe for vaping.
To start with, what batteries are you using? If you're not sure, there should be something written on the batteries - either a brand name and a CDR (a number followed by 'A'), or a serial number of some sort. Can you tell us what that is?
If you're looking for new batteries, I strongly recommend getting some from the chart linked here:
Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
At the bottom there's a list of reliable suppliers in both the US and Europe (those of us who are elsewhere have to get a bit more creative in sourcing our batteries). It's best to stick with the reliable suppliers because there are a lot of counterfeit batteries around, and the suppliers on the list are much less likely to wind up with them.
Next, some of the most common batteries for vaping are about 20 A batteries with about 3000 mah - the Samsung 30Q, LG HG2 and Sony VTC 6. If you use any of those batteries, it's really important to stay below about 50 - 60 W per battery. If your settings are higher than that, you'll need to get 25 A or 30 A batteries. There are several on the chart I linked to, but the capacity (mah) will be lower.
Anyway, let us know what batteries you're using now and what your settings are, and we can tell you where to look for the best batteries for your needs.
To start with, what batteries are you using? If you're not sure, there should be something written on the batteries - either a brand name and a CDR (a number followed by 'A'), or a serial number of some sort. Can you tell us what that is?
If you're looking for new batteries, I strongly recommend getting some from the chart linked here:
Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
At the bottom there's a list of reliable suppliers in both the US and Europe (those of us who are elsewhere have to get a bit more creative in sourcing our batteries). It's best to stick with the reliable suppliers because there are a lot of counterfeit batteries around, and the suppliers on the list are much less likely to wind up with them.
Next, some of the most common batteries for vaping are about 20 A batteries with about 3000 mah - the Samsung 30Q, LG HG2 and Sony VTC 6. If you use any of those batteries, it's really important to stay below about 50 - 60 W per battery. If your settings are higher than that, you'll need to get 25 A or 30 A batteries. There are several on the chart I linked to, but the capacity (mah) will be lower.
Anyway, let us know what batteries you're using now and what your settings are, and we can tell you where to look for the best batteries for your needs.
I like 3000mah with 20a LG hg2 can't go wrong. And if your buying make sure it's 20a or better continues not pulse.
Yup, that's a good one. Mooch has it rated at 18A now so you need to stay under 50W per battery, but you'll be fine as long as you respect its limits.
The best 18650’s are the LG hg2’s, the Samsung 30q’s, and the Sony vtc6’s. They all do around 20amps with 3000 mah. A good general rule is to avoid batteries with fire in the name. Also avoid batteries with exaggerated ratings. Good luck
Those flashlight 18650 are lower amp and sometimes are 70mm instead of 65mm do to amp cutoff protection circuitry.
At 40 watts when the battery is discharged you will be pulling about 15 amps from it. Your battery is probably capable of 3 to 5 amps maximum. Needless to say this is a bad idea.
Recycle or repurpose them and spend a small amount of money on a suitable battery from Moochs recommended list that was posted earlier in this thread. I recommend the Samsung 30Q.
What about a batteries with same ratings except instead of 4000mah I think it's 2600 mAH I just can't remember cause I'm not home
Seems you're not understanding what is being said.
Very basically said;
mah (milli amp hour) is a measure of run time / how long a cell can be used/ should last between recharge cycles.
CDR (continuous discharge rate) is how many amps can be drawn from a cell without damage or worse.
There is no reason to buy 2600mah 20a CDR cells when 3000mah 20a CDR cells are available, you'd be losing at least 400mah of run time & gaining no amps.
It would be best to stick with the previously recommended cells.
Samsung 30Q 3000mah, 20a CDR
Sony VTC6 3000mah, 19ish a CDR.
LG HG2 3000mah 18ish a CDR.
Or, if you routinely vape above 100w - 120w +
Sony VTC5A ( must be A) 2500mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD2 2000mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD2C 2200mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD4 2100mah, 25a CDR.
Always use matched / married sets in multi cell power devices.
Very basically said;
mah (milli amp hour) is a measure of run time / how long a cell can be used/ should last between recharge cycles.
CDR (continuous discharge rate) is how many amps can be drawn from a cell without damage or worse.
There is no reason to buy 2600mah 20a CDR cells when 3000mah 20a CDR cells are available, you'd be losing at least 400mah of run time & gaining no amps.
It would be best to stick with the previously recommended cells.
Samsung 30Q 3000mah, 20a CDR
Sony VTC6 3000mah, 19ish a CDR.
LG HG2 3000mah 18ish a CDR.
Or, if you routinely vape above 100w - 120w +
Sony VTC5A ( must be A) 2500mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD2 2000mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD2C 2200mah, 25a CDR.
LG HD4 2100mah, 25a CDR.
Always use matched / married sets in multi cell power devices.
I completely understand "what is being said" I am not buying these batteries they were given to me....I'm just trying to see if they are useable in my device
I'd send pictures. Or just spend the 10 or 12 bucks on a new safe set.
If you're asking about the "windfire batteries 18650 4000mah 3.7 v li-ion" the plain answer is, no.
If you're asking about the 2600mah cells you also mentioned, the answer is, maybe, maybe not.
It is close to impossible to say whether the cells you have are authentic or a counterfeit (even from a picture), or if they have the CDR necessary to power your device safely without knowing the name brand & letters & numbers used to identify the cells.
Even then it is difficult to ascertain authentic vs counterfiet unless the counterfeits are really poor quality.
Of course then there is the whole re wrap erroneous amp claim type cells.
Just me, I wouldn't use the 2600mah cells either.
Were they matched / married pairs when the previous owner used them?
Are they marked so you can keep them in the same matched pairs as the previous owner?
Did the person that gave you these cells explain the rate & depth of discharge and the number of discharge cycles they've been through?
The only way to ensure the cells you use are quality authentic cells is to buy only from reputable vendors/dealers.
Agree with the above comments. Unless one is certain that they have batteries manufactured by LG, Samsung, or Sony (who make 75% or more of the batteries on the market) and that they are authentic brand name by a trusted supplier ... its literally a crapshoot on what they are and how they will perform. Just because a battery is an 18650 Li-ion battery does not mean it will perform equally with other brands. I strongly suggest that you read the following articles to learn more about Li-ion batteries to understand what everyone has already told you.
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded) Battery?
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded) Battery?
- Learn what a rewrap cell is. If you are using a rebranded cell, does that mean it is inferior, poor quality, or even dangerous? Which batteries are suspected to be rebranded batteries?
- For those who want to learn the differences between IMR, IMR/hybrid, ICR, and LiPo batteries. What do those numbers and letters on batteries mean? What's an amp rating and why is it more important than the mAh rating when choosing a battery for vaping?
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
- A popular and essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.
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