long battery life wonderful, but not the easiest to lug around. I'm having difficulty getting 14500 to work in my Trans with AFS as a workaround for out and about AFSing. I've played with the spacers but i'm wondering if the problem is that these batteries are too slim. Any thoughts?
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long battery life wonderful, but not the easiest to lug around. I'm having difficulty getting 14500 to work in my Trans with AFS as a workaround for out and about AFSing. I've played with the spacers but i'm wondering if the problem is that these batteries are too slim. Any thoughts?
I know they last all day which is great - but it's not the easiest to lug around. Was looking at other battery option to make the AFS more portable for out and about...
Thanks again for all the hints fellas.
For those interested I got this charger, supposedly very good for the 18650
Pila Battery Charger
For those interested I got this charger, supposedly very good for the 18650
Pila Battery Charger
WOW!
That's expensive, what made you buy that one in preference to this one that does multiple different 3.7V batteries?
www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/B56-01
Well supposedly it's the "best" you can get for 18650. Was thinking of getting one of the regular chargers but then after reading a couple of battery forums I went for this. Probably unnecessary but what the hell 
PS. dunno bout the others but this one doesn't overcharge the batteries.
Still haven't got the batteries though, hope they get here before your shipment as I saw you already shipped it. FAST! :O
PS. dunno bout the others but this one doesn't overcharge the batteries.
Still haven't got the batteries though, hope they get here before your shipment as I saw you already shipped it. FAST! :O
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Yep, I was on that flashlight forum yesterday doing some research. if anyone ever needs an instant insomnia cure, this is it:Haha or maybe it was a flashlight forum. Thank god for google magic
CandlePowerForums
I especially like in people's signatures where they list all the "amazing" flashlights that they have..............
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Yeah me too...I never thought that there could be something like a flashlight forum...hehe...And the funny thing is that they are so crowded
Maybe there's a whole different planet out there...Dunno
Yep, I was on that flashlight forum yesterday doing some research. if anyone ever needs an instant insomnia cure, this is it:
CandlePowerForums
I especially like in people's signatures where they list all the "amazing" flashlights that they have..............
Yes...Amazing those flashlights...yippee...hehe
It pains me to say it, but you're probably right Imeo...
But still...Flashlights?
But still...Flashlights?
It pains me to say it, but you're probably right Imeo...
But still...Flashlights?
xaxaxaxaxa we are the worse people on the world maybe Mist
and yes still flashlights!!!!!
Both you and Rob should consider offering the Pila charger on your sites. I don't know from a business standpoint if it is profitable, as they sell for about $45.00 US, but from my research, it "may" be the safest and provide for true 4.2 charging voltage. I have looked at the less expensive models that are offered as of now, and have read many problematic reports, some of which are on the "battery" forum, these people are serious about their batteries and chargers, just like we are serious about vaping. Most of them have more money invested in batteries then anyone here may ever have. The Pila can in fact charge just about every battery similar ones like the inexpensive "TrustFire TR-001" can charge, using some $1.50 spacers. I think I will be buying a Pila IBC charger myself. Even at 3x the price fo the Trustfire, it may well be worth the idea that they don't "overcharge" the cells as most of the inexpensive ones have reported issues with, depending on the "luck" of getting one where the cheap electronic chip works as advertised. Beyond not "overcharging" the batteries we buy, there is the safety factor, and have not seen any reports of this charger catching fire, as there are reports of the cheaper ones doing. Guess it depends on what one thinks there house is worth, or their life, or saving a few bucks. Many of these products are not really tested or UL listed, being from a Chinese company, I guess they are not well regulated nor can be sued either.
I'm not saying the Pila will never start a fire or save your life if leaved "unattended", but the few extra bucks might be worth it in the end. Something to at least think about and factor into recharging batteries for whatever device you use them with.
The next step is even more expensive, and involves "hobby chargers", but I'm NOT going to go that far. If someone - anyone can afford a $100.00 - $200.00 e-cig mod, they have no excuse for not being able to afford a $45.00 charger, so that is the path I'm taking.
BETTER SAFE THEN SORRY (mom always said that)
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OK, before anyone gets unduly worried by what you have said, I need to point out that I have not heard ANY reports of the trustfire chargers posing any problem of any kind with proper use and when charging standard protected batteries.
We've just got to be careful with all these batteries, they are all potential miniature explosives if not used properly.
Spend £5 on a multimeter, check your batteries regularly before and after use and charging. Always check the batteries for damage and always observe correct polarity. Dont leave unattended whilst on charge.
As a matter of fact, I think in some cases, relying on the stated protection can actually get us into more trouble.
We've just got to be careful with all these batteries, they are all potential miniature explosives if not used properly.
Spend £5 on a multimeter, check your batteries regularly before and after use and charging. Always check the batteries for damage and always observe correct polarity. Dont leave unattended whilst on charge.
As a matter of fact, I think in some cases, relying on the stated protection can actually get us into more trouble.
I was not trying to getting anyone "unduly worried". I don't expect anyone to bother spending as much time as I do, researching subjects, but can say there are reports, photos, etc. of these exact chargers doing what I posted, that they can potentially do these things, and that is FAIL. I can't substantiate these reports since they are simply users on the internet. So far I have not seen any reports of the Pila charger shorting out, over charging, or starting fires, and AGAIN that is NOT to say this charger is in fact any safer in real life usage. Folks will have to make their own purchases based on how far they want to research a product, but an INFORMED decision would be of best interest. I work in an industry that uses a lot of battery devices, on the very high end, so the devices and chargers are all matched to each other, and the makers have smart designers and technicians that all do not want to be sued.
For my own personal use, the video and photo devices on the "prosumer" end, all come with their own brand chargers and batteries, so I've never assumed a problem could exist, and have never had a problem or read about one.
BUT, when we get into the fairly new world of charging these kinds of batteries at home, with less then $20.00 chinese battery chargers, the playing field has changed. I never had or used rechargeable Li-Ion batteries of this size or voltage, never had a reason to, for SureFire flashlights, I had access to the disposable 3.0 volt Li-Ion batteries. Now I see a larger market has developed for rechargeable batteries in this style, and wanted to take this opportunity to LEARN about these new batteries and chargers, since I myself will have to start using them for my upcoming GGTS. The biggest point I have learned as of this writing, is the Li-Ion charger market is very slim on choices and SAFETY.
Using a meter is smart if users take the time. BUT, unless you really know how to use a volt meter, it may be best to read all the posts on the "battery forums", as these folks have expensive "Fluke style meters", and can tell you what readings are useful as well as those that are false assumptions. If anyone thinks they know more then folks that do batteries for a hobby do, think again. For example using TWO batteries in a device seems to increase the potential for problems as well, whether protected or not. In some cases, like a "protected battery", the built-in protection may shut off one battery, when the voltage gets too low, leading to the 2nd one shutting down as well.
If you prefer I will not post these types of messages? Just figured "knowledge is power", whether you are a seller or user.
Vaughanie, just make sure whatever GG unit you are using can accommodate the WIDTH of these, at 26.20mm, they are WIDE & FAT
Info From link:
Size : 26.20mm ( diameter ) x 50.40mm ( height ) +/- .05mm
The more normal sizes are:
16340 = 16mm diameter x 34mm long
14500 = 14mm diameter x 50mm long
Since CR2s don't seem to use the same system I measured mine at:
CR2 = 15.2mm diameter x 27.6mm long
Nice info MT,
thank you for this help -----
we need all the smart and knowledgeable members we can get to help us who are not so clever with all this techie stuff...............
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