beating a d--d horse

[VapingRulz]

I quit smoking using an 808D-1 from Vapor4Life - and I'm still using it. It works. I'm not sure why so many people dismiss it because it's very effective. It feels like smoking. Yes, you have to have a few batteries to get through the day, but that's not a deal-breaker for me. I did buy an IGo, the 808 version of the EGo, but I find that I don't use it very often because it doesn't produce the same type of vape as my 808D-1. It's not as tasty.

Don't dismiss the 808D-1 e-cig. It's very good. I recommend the XL manual batteries and 24mg eliquid to start. Coffee flavor is a good bet if you don't want a tobacco flavor.

 

[hdnelson2003]

Welcome 8a31,
I just have to say that most of here are so very grateful to this new technology for allowing us a painfree way of getting off analogs that no matter what you do, you are on the right path. Having said that, I quickly progressed from disposables to 510 look a likes, to Egos, and now have two variable volt units. The menthol flavors seem to be closer to analog taste more than the regular tobacco ones, but there are such wonderful flavors out there to choose from. I quickly found myself preferring the cleaner taste of the e cigs over analogs, so quitting analogs was easy. I did keep a pack in the freezer for a long time, just in case. Pretty soon you will begin to worry about running out of atomizers/batteries because you will do just about anything to keep from stopping at the gas station for a pack of analogs. This has been the easiest thing I have ever done. I don't think you will regret any decision you make on this path. Good luck.

 

[Credo]

I mainly use a Darwin, or an eGo when out and about (not so worried about loosing the eGo or it being stolen). While bigger than cigs, I still find them very convenient and easy to use. Far easier than cig packs and lighters/matches With these bigger batteries I also much enjoy using much larger catomizers that hold more juice (colossal/jumbo/tank sizes).

I do still like auto mini batteries for when I'm gardening,fishing, playing golf, etc....for 'mouth hanger' hands-free vaping. Auto batteries do not require pushing a button to vape. Drawbacks to the auto batteries are less control over how you draw, and if you drip with them or fill your own cartomizers you have to be extra careful not to get juice in them.

If you 'insist' on mini batteries...
Instead of a 'starter kit'

Consider getting a multi-charger and a hand full of inexpensive mini batteries (probably from $10 to $12 each). I'm pretty sure cignot.com stocks the chargers, and myvaporstore.com usually has great deals on batteries..

The multi-charger mentioned is for ten 510 type mini batteries, but with adapters you should be able to safely put KR808 batteries on it (might just take a little longer to charge them). The unit also has slots to store up to 10 cartos/atties. You can also put eGo batteries on these but they definitely take longer to charge than with a true eGo charger.

As for what vaping platform to use on these 'mini' batteries...
Cartomizers are a good place to start.
These will usually hold around 1ml of liquid (some will hold far more), and the atomizer and liquid cartridge is built into a single piece. There are many different kinds of cartos out there. The main thing to consider is if you want hotter or cooler vape.

510 mini batteries tend be around 3.4v under load on average, and standard resistance cartos for these is in the 2.5 Ohm range. The batteries can safely handle cartos and atties from 2 Ohms up to 3 Ohms. The lower the resistance/ohms, the 'hotter' the atomizer inside will burn.

KR808 mini batteries tend to be around 3.7v under load on average, and cartos tend to be in the 3 Ohm range. To use LR stuff (down to 2 Ohms should be safe), it may require getting an adapter for 510 stuff to more easily find LR stuff in the 2 Ohm to 2.5 Ohm range for these,

Personally, for mini e-cigs, I like to use a 2.4 Ohm 510 Metal (avoid the clear ones, they don't last as long and can leak) CE2 or Fluxomizer cartomizer with a 510>808 adapter on KR808-D1 batteries. Why? This carto type is good for hot quick draws like I take with real cigs. The slightly higher voltage of the 808 battery helps turn up the heat a bit. The draw is very open and easy to pull all the way into the lungs quickly. It only requires a 2 to 4 second burn to get a full hit. Battery life is great with these since they don't take but a short burn to get something out of them.

Hope this helps some...feel free to ask further questions.

 

[Michelle M]

Even though I have a mod (a Black Beauty from Altsmoke plus an Old Goat bottom feeder), my most-used ecig is a Bloog/Volt/G6. It's an auto. The draw on these is quite miraculous, very "full" in a way the KR808 really wasn't for me. Smokers try it and cough. It's easily refilled and one cartomizer lasts a rather long time. Plus, even though I've been vaping a couple years now, I still prefer whipping out a small sized ecig vs. a large one. I like being able to carry it in a pocket and not have it fire other than when I draw on it. These small sized horizontal coil carts are really kind of the next big thing. For good reason. Get a small kit and try it out.

 

[MizJackson]

buy a volt or bloog(best cig styles around)and a riva/e-go 510 because you'll find your gonna end up with 2 kits eventually anyways. Something for on the go and something for at home. These two are perfect in my rotation and love it.

I agree with Mr. Buttflakes. I purchased my Riva just about 2 weeks ago, and now I am purchasing a cheap 510 kit. I have decided that I am not real comfortable with stares, and being asked if I am smoking something I shouldn't be at work. (Probably didn't help that I bought the Riva in the Pepto pink, so it's pretty noticable ) So, I only have 2-15 min. breaks, and a 30 min. lunch. I think that for the "outside world" the 510 will be a better option for me while I am there.

I love my Riva! I was a pretty heavy smoker, and I am slowly weaning off the analogs. I had a "slip", if you want to call it that this weekend, because we went to the casino, and I didn't want to be fiddly with my ecig, and have to worry about losing it. I am looking at the whole stop smoking thing as not the be-all end-all. Harm reduction is more the strategy I have.

Funny thing about it. I took the analogs that were left from this weekend to work. I missed my Riva. For me, the ecig has so much more of a relaxing feel to it, it is different, and it seems to calm me. In fact, I find when I am stressed, I do not get the satisfaction of esmoking, as I think that I still try to smoke it like an analogue, and I get thrown off, with short hard drags.

As far as fullness and throat hit. I have smoked since I was 14, and I have never experienced what I do now. I still sometimes cough. I just see it as part of learning, just like when we first learned to smoke. If you think about it, leaning anything is not instantaneous.

My advice? The Riva is a great buy, and will get you started well. I completely understand about the real cig feel and looks. But I find the experience I have with the Riva is so much more than I had with smoking. It feels more like a treat, and a great way to end my day.

I hope that helps some, from one newbie to another. Welcome to the forum.

 

[snipereye64]

get an ego or ego t

 

[8a31]

Well I think I have decided on one.
After hearing everyone rave about the ego I went to youtube and watched reviews and I am going to try the Kgo from hoosiersupply. Its another ego knockoff but has a stronger battery. I hope to get it this week.
As for when Ill stop smoking, Im going to work at it. It took me a bit to get hooked and it will take me a bit to get unhooked. here is one of the best reviews I saw for it YouTube - ‪K-GO : DUAL COIL CARTOMIZERS‬‏
Im also going to order a sample pack of eliquids to see what I like.

 

[Zombitedesade]

I personally think the mega 510 Titan starter kit from totally wicked is a really good starting kit. You get 3 of everything, mega batteries (last a good few more hours then regular 510 bats, 3 mega attys and a x5 mains battery charger.

If your a seriously heavy smoker/Vaper you may need to carry all 3 batteries with you, but otherwise you'll more then the likely be happy on 2 or even just the one. It's a pen style which is quite a bit longer then a cig (diameter wise it's about the same) and closer in length to a hamlet cigar I'd say. They don't look alien, or totally un cig like however and shouldn't get you too much unwanted attention. 510's are a good starting point as they are so flexible. Auto batteries, manual batteries, mega batteries, USB passthroughs, fill your own carts, cartomisers, low and high resistance atomisers etc etc the list is endless.

With a 510 kit you have huge scope for further customisation to suit your needs. IMO.

 

[tresrottn]

You may find yourself pleasantly surprised when a couple of weeks from now you realize you haven't picked up a regular ciggie, nor have had the desire for one in a few days It seems to happen naturally.

As for when Ill stop smoking, Im going to work at it. It took me a bit to get hooked and it will take me a bit to get unhooked.
Im also going to order a sample pack of eliquids to see what I like.

 

[8a31]

well I placed the orders today so wish me luck.

 

[Dooms]

Best of luck to you 8a31..

 

[mohawkx]

That is an excellent choice. I've purchased KGO 1100s from Hoosier and they are my favorite, every day vapors. I also use a gogo but the KGOs with Boge 2.0lr cartomizers or the Dual coils are very good at delivering the satisfaction one requires from an e-cig. Here are some juice suggestions that I've come to really like and reorder. Mad Vape's Cappucinno and Halo's Prime 15 or Tiki Juice. Excellent all day vapes. I wish you the best of luck and good fortune in your journey.

Well I think I have decided on one.
After hearing everyone rave about the ego I went to youtube and watched reviews and I am going to try the Kgo from hoosiersupply. Its another ego knockoff but has a stronger battery. I hope to get it this week.
As for when Ill stop smoking, Im going to work at it. It took me a bit to get hooked and it will take me a bit to get unhooked. here is one of the best reviews I saw for it YouTube - ‪K-GO : DUAL COIL CARTOMIZERS‬‏
Im also going to order a sample pack of eliquids to see what I like.

 

[Boodle]

Stellar advice in this thread. It should be a sticky.

 

[bjannr]

I have a friend who has vaping for over two years. He still uses his 510 batteries and drips into atomizers. He does use a PCC to make sure there is always at least one battery with a full charge. I see him always blowing out plumes of vapor using 100% PG. It is really an individual thing as far as what will work for you.

 

[8a31]

Got the Kgo today and had to try it out. Mind you I had not charged the batteries yet. My first drag (toot) made me cough. I wasn't expecting that. It seems to produce the effects I am looking for. I used it for about a half hour before it was done and it was smoother than expected but had a similar fullness (not exact) to the real thing.
I have ordered different flavor e-juices so I am excited to get going with this.

 

[swedishfish]

Good for you. There is a learning curve but if you hang in there it will work for you.

 

[Iffy]

I am excited to get going with this.

That's what we like to hear! Vape on...

 

[MizJackson]

I am so excited for you! Keep up the good work!

 

[tearose50]

Keep us posted --- we like follow-ups!

 

[8a31]

Well its been about a month and WOW what a learning curve. I have spent more money trying to get the combination right that works best for me. I have been using the 510-T atty and tanks. This seems to work great as long as the atty is cleaned regularly. I am finding myself wanting to vape all the time tho.
I haven't stopped the analogs all together but have dropped to 3/4 pack or less per day. This is a BIG improvement. after a cigarette I want to vape just to get the bad taste out of my mouth so I think I'm getting closer to the switch.
I figured Id give an update on how this has worked for me.