Not sure who the "we" is that is being referenced, but generalizations are just that. Not all dogs chase cats.
Beginner mixing tip - I just learned
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Both LorAnn's banana and watermelon contain colorings. I personally wouldn't vape them.
1. Factual processes can't be disputed. 2. is not an opinion factual processes cannot be disputed. learn about how an extract is made then answer your own question, "age/maturity makes flavors better."
Your opinion and thats fine.. They do not contain diacetyl and thats great..
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Yes, that's why I said personally. LorAnn's site may state Diacetyl free, but they have not validated their claim with spec sheets. There are other Diketones that are equally harmful, and many of their flavors do contain these.
Age/maturity makes flavors better is an opinion. The word better makes the statement an opinion, and there is no need to further argue semantics.
Taste is perceived differently and is thus un-quantitative or immeasurable.
Age is not always advantageous. After the initial process of creating an extract, over time, extracts result in a loss of potency, which can make an extract less effective. I've never felt the need to validate my credentials or knowledge here, but I can post if necessary.
I always appreciate when people question my practices because then I actually question my own methods to see if I'm doing something just because or because it's better, but questioning and assuming what a person knows and doesn't know is disparaging and unnecessary.
Yes, that's why I said personally. LorAnn's site may state Diacetyl free, but they have not validated their claim with spec sheets. There are other Diketones that are equally harmful, and many of their flavors do contain these.
Age/maturity makes flavors better is an opinion. The word better makes the statement an opinion, and there is no need to further argue semantics.
Taste is perceived differently and is thus un-quantitative or immeasurable.
Age is not always advantageous. After the initial process of creating an extract, over time, extracts result in a loss of potency, which can make an extract less effective. I've never felt the need to validate my credentials or knowledge here, but I can post if necessary.
I always appreciate when people question my practices because then I actually question my own methods to see if I'm doing something just because or because it's better, but questioning and assuming what a person knows and doesn't know is disparaging and unnecessary.
Age maturity are speculative after preset destination qualifier..
taste are not specified, reaction to taste is the common
the standardized recipe for some juices require steeping, vape at own tolerances, but its not the recipe..
How is this so hard to comprehend...
taste are not specified, reaction to taste is the common
the standardized recipe for some juices require steeping, vape at own tolerances, but its not the recipe..
How is this so hard to comprehend...
Recipes are made up by people, it's what tastes best to them. I write up recipes too, They are my preference of what tastes best to me. When I see a recipe I look at it as a starting point, I tweak it to my personal taste or preference. I'm not so arrogant as to say that if my preference is this recipe tastes best with x amount of flavor and y amount of days steeped, that, that is an indisputable fact and anyone that disagrees with me is a noob. That's just an arrogant way of thinking (imo).
If I think a juice tastes best not steeped and Joes Pizza is best. If you think a juice is best steeped and Bobs Pizza is best. We are both right, that's what tastes best to each of us. Taste is just a personal preference, not an indisputable fact. Now really, how difficult is that to comprehend?
If I think a juice tastes best not steeped and Joes Pizza is best. If you think a juice is best steeped and Bobs Pizza is best. We are both right, that's what tastes best to each of us. Taste is just a personal preference, not an indisputable fact. Now really, how difficult is that to comprehend?
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obviously nicotine evaporates... if it didnt a vapor/fume hood wouldnt be needed when dealing with the "really hi strength" nic...
steeping is soaking a solid in a liquid to extract flavor..DIY mixers dont really "steep" anything.... everything else is simply mixing and most the flavors out there are not even extract to begin with,,,, dblry4 is an artificial flavor not a natural anyways.
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No, you didn't just say that Now what am I going to do with my bag of black cat bones, horned toad warts, frog hairs, hens teeth, juju dust....
haha I know right. I burnt out 3 ultra sonics before I learned if I would just stop over flavoring things I didnt have to cook it lol.... keeping my frog hairs tho still , that stuff comes in handy lots of times. I have 2 recipes now that I "steep" or "speed steep" thats it and thats only because they are diketone super frenzy. Im really just waiting for the chemical taste to go away not waiting for better flavor. so they say 3 puffs off this should give you popcorn lung by the end of the day lol.
My "beginner mixing tip" is - if the juice is good after mixing but sucks after a month of 'setting' - go back to the drawing board.
So much wrong information in this thread, it's a wonder how your able to use a computer let alone think you understand blending molecule process but yet using excuses like learn how to mix right or its an artificial.
Just as there are people who harm others and people who do stupid, I understand there is no way to get through to ya that the molecules take time to marriage and those forum post with ultrasonic cleaner tricks and methods to speed up the marriage process; so those people are just dumb noobs. So many vendors who specialize in steeping -- they have no idea what they are doing, they also are just noobs.
Heres a little statement from a vendor about steeping and not steeping..
This guy and many other vendors/diy'ers who steep and give a prescribed steep time have no idea that you guys have it all figured out.
Ok over and out yall know it all.
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Just as there are people who harm others and people who do stupid, I understand there is no way to get through to ya that the molecules take time to marriage and those forum post with ultrasonic cleaner tricks and methods to speed up the marriage process; so those people are just dumb noobs. So many vendors who specialize in steeping -- they have no idea what they are doing, they also are just noobs.
Heres a little statement from a vendor about steeping and not steeping..
zeus ejuice etc said:
This guy and many other vendors/diy'ers who steep and give a prescribed steep time have no idea that you guys have it all figured out.
Ok over and out yall know it all.
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I think you are missing the point. you are still telling a growing number that dont agree and people that do mix juice and plenty of it that you have the only right way of doing it. hoosier said it best. there is no such thing as an ry4 so how are you to say how it taste best . my mixes change very little between fresh mix and 30 days old. nothing you can copy and paste will change that. I come to my conclusions after actually mixing and tasting and adjusting until its right. Ive done the crock pot and UC and rice. seed steeping countless flavors and single flavors and mixes . caps on , caps off in the dark. on the dash board, in the microwave. everything. name it I have tried it with an open mind because there is no right way to DIY your own juice. there will be a bit of smoothing out from shake and vape after a day or 2 but the flavor is basically the same and that is not steeping . a good mix doesnt need voodoo magic. if yours does thats fine you still are no more right than I am or anyone else. who are you really to say how someone else should taste something.
Yeah, the point is being completely missed by the poster who was asking rudimentary nic questions in Feb. of this year.
I said most of my mixes are good to vape from the moment I mix them. I never said "all" or that "everyone's" mixes are the best from the moment they are mixed. I have some mixes that need to steep, it's a small percentage, but they do exist. I took issue with someone INSISTING that steeping is REQUIRED when I know darn well from mixing over 4 years that steeping is not required, but is a good thing to check and MAYBE it will help.
I started mixing because most pre-mixed was terrible. I continue to mix because my stuff is better than the stuff I can buy. I attend vape meets about once a month and sample the vendor juices there as much as I can. I do find some gems here and there, but they are fairly rare. So posting what another mixer, who just happens to get paid for their mixing, is never going to convince me that I'm mixing wrong. What tells me that I'm mixing right is that my vape is great and I really enjoy it. That's the whole point, and the entire reason, I mix.
If your juice tastes great, you're doing a fine job of mixing. If it doesn't, try some different stuff/techniques, experiment for yourself and find a way to make that great tasting juice. Listening to a bunch of folks on a forum could just lead to confusion and misinformation. If you want to make your own juice and you want to make great juice, it's important to start mixing and learning for yourself. You might find that my suggestion to add a tiny bit of raspberry makes watermelon taste more like watermelon works for you and you may find it just screwed up your watermelon. Either way, I'm still right because it works for me and if you disagree, you're also right because it doesn't work for you.
This isn't 1+1=2. We can have any answer we want and as long as the vape is great, it's the right answer.
I said most of my mixes are good to vape from the moment I mix them. I never said "all" or that "everyone's" mixes are the best from the moment they are mixed. I have some mixes that need to steep, it's a small percentage, but they do exist. I took issue with someone INSISTING that steeping is REQUIRED when I know darn well from mixing over 4 years that steeping is not required, but is a good thing to check and MAYBE it will help.
I started mixing because most pre-mixed was terrible. I continue to mix because my stuff is better than the stuff I can buy. I attend vape meets about once a month and sample the vendor juices there as much as I can. I do find some gems here and there, but they are fairly rare. So posting what another mixer, who just happens to get paid for their mixing, is never going to convince me that I'm mixing wrong. What tells me that I'm mixing right is that my vape is great and I really enjoy it. That's the whole point, and the entire reason, I mix.
If your juice tastes great, you're doing a fine job of mixing. If it doesn't, try some different stuff/techniques, experiment for yourself and find a way to make that great tasting juice. Listening to a bunch of folks on a forum could just lead to confusion and misinformation. If you want to make your own juice and you want to make great juice, it's important to start mixing and learning for yourself. You might find that my suggestion to add a tiny bit of raspberry makes watermelon taste more like watermelon works for you and you may find it just screwed up your watermelon. Either way, I'm still right because it works for me and if you disagree, you're also right because it doesn't work for you.
This isn't 1+1=2. We can have any answer we want and as long as the vape is great, it's the right answer.
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