Best dual coil RTA?

[RAWRferal]

Also Mad Scientist, she is a bulky atty, but it has a certain charm. Certainly far less hideous than the pictures on the internet lol. I get where you're coming from, but the practicalities win out with this one as I'm sure you'd agree!

EDIT: can't knock the build quality either, by far and away the best I've seen in this price bracket.

 

[Mangomonkeyman]

I'm expecting the Goliath v2 to drop a big ol steamer on the competition

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm expecting the Goliath v2 to drop a big ol steamer on the competition

I really like the looks of my v1 -- not crazy about the fins on top but the knurled juice control ring sticking out just adds a "machinery" quality to it. I wish they kept that look on the v2.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Also Mad Scientist, she is a bulky atty, but it has a certain charm. Certainly far less hideous than the pictures on the internet lol. I get where you're coming from, but the practicalities win out with this one as I'm sure you'd agree!

EDIT: can't knock the build quality either, by far and away the best I've seen in this price bracket.

That's the thing. No matter how the thing looks, it's the atty I always carry as a backup day-to-day for that inevitable moment when doing a refill is just not really possible (like driving). One big criteria as a daily use atty is either hold a lot of juice or be really easy to fill. Billow v2 pretty much has both.

I ordered 2 Big Buddahs expected to be delivered today (need the huge deck for some experiments). If they work as expected, that will be the atty for the car lol. 10 ml.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Could you fit a .7 ohm (2x1.4) 28awg build in it?

The biggest build I've crammed into a billow v2 was 3.0 mm, 13 wraps of 28 AWG Ni 200. It will fit.

2.5 mm coils work better both because it's easier to fit the coils and because, at least for me, big fat 3.0 mm wicks make even bigger, fatter wick tails that end up getting choked cramming them in on the deck.

 

[alee132]

I really like the looks of my v1 -- not crazy about the fins on top but the knurled juice control ring sticking out just adds a "machinery" quality to it. I wish they kept that look on the v2.

You are probably one of the very few. I didn't get the v1 just because of that juice control ring sticking out. I love how they removed it and make it a more uniform device plus all the other great things they changed with it. Can't wait to try out a single coil nickel build or hell even a dual coil nickle build with my dna 200.

 

[dammit95060]

Zephyrus from youde, dual coil rda and massive airflow. Top fill and under 30 bucks for everything. Here's a pic of the deck, and I love this thing. View attachment 464149

Does the Zephyrus leak? I assumed that the raised air holes on the billow/billow v2 and orchid v6, which I have, helped with this. My main problem with the Orchid v6 is the airflow. There isn't enough. If the Zephyrus doesn't leak, this think is awesome in my opinion. Especially for beginners. It has the option of using a .3 ohm dual coil replaceably deal with japanese organic cotton. That's what I'd put in it anyway. .3 ohms. Maybe .2 if the airflow was really good and kept the cotton from burning.

Before seeing this I thought the billow v2 was a winner. It still is if the raised holes is what makes my Orchid not leak. But if they're not needed, and especially if you're a beginner, the Zephyrus.

For leaking though, your wicking (make sure they're wet but don't allow juice to flow on the deck) and PG/VG ratio (more VG, less leaking) matter. Most people say 50/50 pg/vg and wick blocking top of grooves, but not going in them works. So the normal fold over on both ends outside the coil but some extra effort added to cover top of grooves works. That's what I do.

Idk. I'm still leaning toward the billow v2.

 

[dammit95060]

I just read a wicking technique by Trevor Jones for the Goblin (which should be the same technique for most all dual RTAs) that's popular and different than mine above. I was reading about whether the Zephyrus leaks or not also. What I got was about the same as what I got about the Orchid v6 before I bought it. It seems to depend mainly on how you deal with the suction when refilling it and afterward while in use. In other words, if you do it right, it won't leak. Unless you're juice viscosity is inappropriate. I still think the billow v2 is probably the best thing out right now though. I think it has a bigger deck too.

 

[Mike 586]

Personally I prefer single coil builds and what I'd consider best needs to meet a number of criteria and for me, out of what I've seen the Golaith V2 and Steamcrave RDTA are the only two I'm even considering.

As far as the Orchid goes, I have a few V4s and never liked them enough to get any of the newer versions. On the newer versions the AFC and fill method still suck, and I'm positive they vape damned near the same making them nothing to get excited about.

 

[jhhollier]

Personally, I'm really enjoying the Epoch D1 from EHpro that I just got in. Really good flavor and the airflow is perfect for me. It doesn't follow the latest trend of humongous airflow, juice channels, etc. so it might disappoint some people but the flavor is, IMO, top notch. Top fill, juice control, good price. The capacity is kind of low (2.5ml IIRC) but it's so easy to fill that I just don't care. The only real con for me is how it looks.

 

[Hightech Redneck]

Does the Zephyrus leak? I assumed that the raised air holes on the billow/billow v2 and orchid v6, which I have, helped with this. My main problem with the Orchid v6 is the airflow. There isn't enough. If the Zephyrus doesn't leak, this think is awesome in my opinion. Especially for beginners. It has the option of using a .3 ohm dual coil replaceably deal with japanese organic cotton. That's what I'd put in it anyway. .3 ohms. Maybe .2 if the airflow was really good and kept the cotton from burning.

Before seeing this I thought the billow v2 was a winner. It still is if the raised holes is what makes my Orchid not leak. But if they're not needed, and especially if you're a beginner, the Zephyrus.

For leaking though, your wicking (make sure they're wet but don't allow juice to flow on the deck) and PG/VG ratio (more VG, less leaking) matter. Most people say 50/50 pg/vg and wick blocking top of grooves, but not going in them works. So the normal fold over on both ends outside the coil but some extra effort added to cover top of grooves works. That's what I do.

Idk. I'm still leaning toward the billow v2.

If not wicked right the zephyrus will leak, like any, a few had issues with the stock leaking too. Once I got the wicking down I've had nearly no leaks unless my cotton is old. That being said yeah I'm lazy and will go a while without changing it. I use 2 to 3 tanks a day in my zephyrus and try to rewick like every 4 or 5 days. We talked thru Alot of those issues in the thread about the zephyrus. I'll post below. I currently have a .2 build in mine and can run at 35-40 watts and get good production. I have been burning thru muffin man as of late and it's 80/20.

Youde Zephyrus | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[BennyAdeline]

So...I really like my Cthulhu but it's a pain in the ... sometimes. I'm really thinking about the billow V2...anyone able to compare the two?

Thanks!!

 

[Mad Scientist]

So...I really like my Cthulhu but it's a pain in the ... sometimes. I'm really thinking about the billow V2...anyone able to compare the two?

Thanks!!

I have both. With identical builds, I think performance is very similar if not identical. I give Cthulhu the edge in the looks dept. Billow v2 takes the edge in the "way less pita" dept lol. What type of issues are you having w/ the Cthulhu?

 

[BennyAdeline]

I have both. With identical builds, I think performance is very similar if not identical. I give Cthulhu the edge in the looks dept. Billow v2 takes the edge in the "way less pita" dept lol. What type of issues are you having w/ the Cthulhu?

Just the pita threads mostly. I do find myself needing to rewick around tank 4 every time for some reason.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Just the pita threads mostly. I do find myself needing to rewick around tank 4 every time for some reason.

Having to take the thing apart to rewick every 4 tanks would get old fast. Maybe keep it in rotation for your cleaner juices and get something easier to rewick for the gunkers. The billow v2 is a good choice I think.

I have this flavor from VZ called Klondike and I like it at strong percentages. That one is a huge coil gunker. Tastes pretty good though lol.

 

[JAZT]

I've really been enjoying the Zephyrus. I liked it so much I bought two more. Once you get the wicking down, it's really great.

 

[BennyAdeline]

Having to take the thing apart to rewick every 4 tanks would get old fast. Maybe keep it in rotation for your cleaner juices and get something easier to rewick for the gunkers. The billow v2 is a good choice I think.

I have this flavor from VZ called Klondike and I like it at strong percentages. That one is a huge coil gunker. Tastes pretty good though lol.

Yeah. It's a bummer. I'll pick up a nice clean menthol juice so I can ride the wicks longer. I like creamy stuff which gunks fast

I'm pretty sold on the billow v2. I'll be picking it up with either the atty3 or Sapor rda this week. Thanks!

 

[BennyAdeline]

Having to take the thing apart to rewick every 4 tanks would get old fast. Maybe keep it in rotation for your cleaner juices and get something easier to rewick for the gunkers. The billow v2 is a good choice I think.

I have this flavor from VZ called Klondike and I like it at strong percentages. That one is a huge coil gunker. Tastes pretty good though lol.

I rewicked the Cthulhu today using quite a bit less cotton. Juicer hits and better vapor were the result. Hopefully it helps the wicks last longer as well.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I rewicked the Cthulhu today using quite a bit less cotton. Juicer hits and better vapor were the result. Hopefully it helps the wicks last longer as well.

The more I try different wicking techniques, the more minimalist I'm getting. Somehow I know it shouldn't take more than a few seconds and shouldn't require hyper-fine surgical skills lol. As of now I'm at the point where I just cut the wick tails flush to the edge of the deck or just very slightly proud of the edge of the deck, fluff the tails, then quickly and without a lot of precision "encourage" some of the fluff in the general direction of the juice wells and blocking the airholes from the wells, assemble, vape, enjoy.

A couple days ago I tried an experiment where I just cut the wick tails flush with the edge of the deck and did absolutely nothing else. Wick tails just "hanging" in the air sticking out of the coils. Assembled and tried it. Once the cotton expanded from being juiced, it worked great. I'm still vaping that build today. That convinced me that much of the exacting technique and methodology I've seen used is just not needed and is mostly a waste of time and effort, if not actually counterproductive to wicking very thick juice. Doing absolutely nothing but getting the tail length right (absolutely no more than just enough cotton) is basically enough. Fluffing the tails and moving just a tiny bit of that fluff in the general direction of the wells to block the airholes from the wells is icing on the cake.

 

[dammit95060]

which has the biggest deck? Cthulhu, or Billow V2? Which has more airflow?