i started off with ego-t and with a smoktech tank and a booge carto and it was good... then i went vv witha vmax with my smoktech tanks and standard resistance cartos and that was better... then i went to a aga-t rebuildable on my vmax and i am damn impressed so much flavor and so much smoke production. my l-rider lambo gives me a nice smooth hit on my smoktechs tanks with cartos. ive tried a bunch of other pv with carto tanks systems but my vmax with my aga-t seems to do it for me =D i do believe the best throat hit and smoke production comes from atomizers but thats kinda my personal prefrence you might want to look into atomizers thats if you dont mind dripping but there atomizer tanks as well im just rambling hopefully this helps a little bit
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I disagree with Dlmarti on the big battery mods not giving a better vape. Every single big battery mod I have had including the 14500 stuff has worked better than any ego I have had.
mmm, that is a good point. A quick draw does not work with that setup.
14 watts on that smok tek dual coil is a little harsh too me though.
let me think about it some more.
You think the electrons taste better out of the expensive batteries?
There is a point on both sides here. A big battery is not always better, I agree but with that said, a 650 mah is not as stable voltage wise when there is a draw on it as say a 1500 mah so it all depends.
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no I know they have more power behind them which does effect the vape
I think your set up would be great with a single coil 2ohm carto
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The problem with the whole "you can get a perfect vape without VV" argument is... well, there are a couple. It's not wrong, but it ignores the major advantages of VV,
First, while you can get close to an optimal setup without it, there's no tweaking. With VV, you can take an almost-optimal setup and push it the rest of the way. You've also got a range of choices, and if you're just starting out, chances are you don't know what type of atty/carto/whatever you're going to like. There's a huge advantage in having a battery that can adapt to whatever knew toys you happen to pick up, without worrying whether or not it'll even work with them.
Honestly, with as cheap as VV devices are these days, I'd never recommend a mod without it to a new vaper. Being able to adjust your vape to exactly how you want it, especially when you're still trying stuff out, is a pretty big deal.
So, yes, the electrons from a VV device often will taste better, because they can be fine-tuned to your taste and your gear.
A Twist these days is, what, twenty bucks or so for a battery? It'd be hard for me to recommend something that cost just as much, but that couldn't be tuned, to someone new at this. It'd be like selling someone a TV without volume control.
First, while you can get close to an optimal setup without it, there's no tweaking. With VV, you can take an almost-optimal setup and push it the rest of the way. You've also got a range of choices, and if you're just starting out, chances are you don't know what type of atty/carto/whatever you're going to like. There's a huge advantage in having a battery that can adapt to whatever knew toys you happen to pick up, without worrying whether or not it'll even work with them.
Honestly, with as cheap as VV devices are these days, I'd never recommend a mod without it to a new vaper. Being able to adjust your vape to exactly how you want it, especially when you're still trying stuff out, is a pretty big deal.
So, yes, the electrons from a VV device often will taste better, because they can be fine-tuned to your taste and your gear.
A Twist these days is, what, twenty bucks or so for a battery? It'd be hard for me to recommend something that cost just as much, but that couldn't be tuned, to someone new at this. It'd be like selling someone a TV without volume control.
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VV or VW might be nice , but many of us don't use it, so to tell anyone they have to have it is wrong. Many of us like and prefer mechanical mods.
Op it comes down to you need to decide what you want in a pv or apv, then go from there. If you want VV or VW great by all means get it. If you want mechanical get that. All anyone here can do is tell you what worked or didn't work for them, but that doesn't mean it will be right for you.
I am so confused now..........
The c-twist is a great device it is what I started with. Pair that with a vivi nova or a kanger T3 hope I spelled that right lol. Get the vivi or t3 in the 2.4 ohm range adjust the voltage to your taste and enjoy.
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I must say I did like VV BUT, I must have been using the wrong tanks. I couldn't get over 4.0 without a burnt taste. Any recommendations on good carts for a c-twist? I think I'll stick with that. I just have trouble finding a good tank.
I completely agree with imtrick vv is easier for new people vaping to get the taste, smoke, and throat hit they want sometimes i like a nice warm vape with certain flavors other times i like a cool vape with others
Well that answered by question! thanks. I was looking at those two tanks. If you don't mind, what are the pros and cons of each one? And how high can I adjust the voltage on them? My other tank I couldn't get over 4.0V without it tasting horribly burnt. It was so bad, it would hurt my throat.
But the fact remains a vv device will do the same thing as a mechanical mod and for same price. So why not especially for someone that is new and don't know what ohms and watts are at least with vv you just adjust to your taste.
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I like the kanger better it has a bottom wick so you will get little to no dry hits with it. That is what is giving you the burn in your throat. Also slow down a little take longer slower puffs this allows to wick to wick better. I run around 4 volts on the kanger at 2.4 ohms but that you just adjust to taste.
Also remember it takes a tank or so to get a tank working and tasting good.
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They are only the same in the respects that they both will heat the cart, clearo or whatever you are using. There are however many reasons to have a mechanical. The most important to me is being able to fix it.
Read through the forums, how many people drop the pv's or put them through the washer, or let them go swimming in coffee, just to name a few of the thread I have read. You do that with most of these vv or vw out and you are buying a new mod, yes you should have a backup, but what about when it is charging or if it breaks.
A lot of us don't have vape shops near by, which means waiting on orders to come in, and we just all know the usps is always so helpful and on time and never loses a package.
With a mechanical wash it in hot water let it dry and you are good to go.
You may have been using a low resistance (Sometimes referred to as LR) carto/atty on your PV. If you were running something like a 1.5 Ohm coil at 4V, that's pretty dang hot and would probably give you a burnt flavor.
IMO, ~2.2-2.5 Ohms is the magic range for a VV device, it will let you explore a wide range of power output (watts, in our case coil heat, like a lightbulb dimmer switch) without much danger of overloading the battery. You can run them nice and cool in the lower voltage range, for a cool vape... Or run them all the way up to around 5.5V and they'll be peaking the current rating of your PV and running hot as heck, and really tasting horrible. A low resistance atty is going to start pretty warm even at low voltage, and a higher resistance atty (3+ Ohms) is going to be too cool at lower voltages.
If that's all a bit too intimidating at this point for you, then I think a fixed voltage 3.7V eGo style passthrough is a good choice, along with a few different carto/atty choices so you can find out what you like. Something like 1.8, 2.0, 2.4... That will allow you to play with a few different heat ranges without having to play with the battery. Same overall effect as a VV, but you're changing resistance rather than voltage... In the end it's the exact same effect, it alters your power output in watts. Using the lightbulb analogy again, each carto would be progressively brighter than the other with highest resistance being the dimmest, and lowest resistance being the highest.
Don't be ashamed to ask questins here either... The dumbest questions on these forums are the ones people didn't ask!
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