Best place to purchase these batteries

[dhowardpeters]

my list of acceptable batteries?

for 3.7V...

...the AW IMR 16340 LiMN for something in a CR123a size...mind you this is a safe chemistry battery so it's use is a little "advanced"

Drozd, I have a Screwdriver MK1 from Trog. Can you elaborate on your statement quoted above? Is it the "LiMN" that tells you it's the new, safe chemistry? But mainly, what does "it's use is a little "advanced"" mean?

Oh, and thank you very much for the list!

 

[Drozd]

sure the LiMN is lithium manganese..so it's a safe chemistry...basically it doesnt produce it's own oxygen if it were to fail so it doesnt burn....basically the same thing LiFePo4 does..
The LiMN batteries are also a high drain so you can really up the C rate that they can be safely drained at thus the ability to pull more amps off them...

so for example...in the AW batteries their regular Li-Ion 16340 batteries are 750mAh with a 2C rating... meaning it'll do up to 1.5A for 30min continuous
versus the IMR 16340 high drain that's 550mAh but with an 8C rating...so they're capable of discharging 4.4A in like 6 minutes...

so the good thing is that the amp draw of whatever atty you're going to throw at this battery isn't going to exceed the max drain rate of the battery...but what I mean by a little advanced is that it doesn't have a PCB so it is possible to overdrain the battery...which could damage the battery's service life....basically in theory it is possible to try and drain the battery to the point where you wouldn't be able to charge it...and safe chemistry batteries can possibly vent if damaged...they just wont vent fire..

 

[Blaze]

sure the LiMN is lithium manganese..so it's a safe chemistry...basically it doesnt produce it's own oxygen if it were to fail so it doesnt burn....basically the same thing LiFePo4 does..
The LiMN batteries are also a high drain so you can really up the C rate that they can be safely drained at thus the ability to pull more amps off them...

so for example...in the AW batteries their regular Li-Ion 16340 batteries are 750mAh with a 2C rating... meaning it'll do up to 1.5A for 30min continuous
versus the IMR 16340 high drain that's 550mAh but with an 8C rating...so they're capable of discharging 4.4A in like 6 minutes...

so the good thing is that the amp draw of whatever atty you're going to throw at this battery isn't going to exceed the max drain rate of the battery...but what I mean by a little advanced is that it doesn't have a PCB so it is possible to overdrain the battery...which could damage the battery's service life....basically in theory it is possible to try and drain the battery to the point where you wouldn't be able to charge it...and safe chemistry batteries can possibly vent if damaged...they just wont vent fire..

So what's the expected daily "life" out of one of these IMR? I'd like to give these batts a shot, but I don't own a multimeter, and would rather not have to deal with the hassle of checking batts during the day (if you knew all I have to deal with in a normal day's time, you'd understand why I say hassle )

Don't need exact numbers, just a rough estimate for a heavy vaper

 

[dhowardpeters]

sure the LiMN is lithium manganese..so it's a safe chemistry...basically it doesnt produce it's own oxygen if it were to fail so it doesnt burn....basically the same thing LiFePo4 does..
The LiMN batteries are also a high drain so you can really up the C rate that they can be safely drained at thus the ability to pull more amps off them...

so for example...in the AW batteries their regular Li-Ion 16340 batteries are 750mAh with a 2C rating... meaning it'll do up to 1.5A for 30min continuous
versus the IMR 16340 high drain that's 550mAh but with an 8C rating...so they're capable of discharging 4.4A in like 6 minutes...

so the good thing is that the amp draw of whatever atty you're going to throw at this battery isn't going to exceed the max drain rate of the battery...but what I mean by a little advanced is that it doesn't have a PCB so it is possible to overdrain the battery...which could damage the battery's service life....basically in theory it is possible to try and drain the battery to the point where you wouldn't be able to charge it...and safe chemistry batteries can possibly vent if damaged...they just wont vent fire..

Sorry if this is dumb, but I'm trying to decipher the language of these things. Am I correct?

• LIR means Lithiom Ion Rechargeable (old chemistry = needs protection)
• IMR means Ion Manganese Rechargeable (new chemistry - protected by design)

Will IMR batteries always have the LiMN label, too? Is LiFePo4 a different kind of new chemistry or what?

I've been reading battery threads here and there in the few months I've been vaping, but information on this subject has been slow to gel with me and it's buggin' meh (you're probably already sorry you got into this)