Best Way to Vape Dark Juices?

[dearme]

What's the best way of vaping dark juices? I mostly DIY but have some premade dark juices that I like the flavor of. Dripping and rinsing/cleaning the atty fairly frequently? CE2? I don't have a lot of luck with CE2s. I killed 2 in a week. I have been mostly using the dark juices in cartos and even with not flooding them, I'm only getting about 3 to 6 ml out of them. I also have not had much luck with cleaning cartos. I tried the 5 min boiling method, the longer boiling method, and the syringe flushing method. I'm never happy with them after cleaning and have decided that's not worth the bother.
Is there a method/technique to using dark juices?

 

[dormouse]

Stick them in a box and make another juice.

Dark juices that have flavoring sediment will cake and gunk up every method of vaping. they clog cartos and wicks, bake onto atty and carto coils, and can evem clog up the end where air comes in.

Whatever flavoring you are using, try another brand of the same or similar flavor. Maybe you will find one that has no sediment. Or you could ask in the DIY section like Who makes a blank flavoring with no sediment?

BTW one thing I have never tried is filtering. I've wondered if the cloudy liquid could be filtered through tea-bag paper or some other kind of filter to get a more clear juice that would clog things less.

 

[dearme]

Thanks, Dormouse. Yes, clogging the air hole is my problem. I think that's why I don't have a lot of luck with cleaning cartos. It would be nice if suppliers would indicate dark juices. Do you know of any ejuice supplier that has a special clear, or mostly clear, juice line? It seems very possible to make almost all juices that are only lightly tinted and would make a great selling point. It's always a surprise when you open the box......LOL...........TPA has mostly clear flavorings and she indicates which are not. I think she even has a clear chocolate, but not sure as I have not ordered it myself.

 

[Psyche]

I read another members post in a thread the other day commenting on how clear the RY4 she ordered was. It was from High Desert Ecigs - Age Verification. You could ask the owner on the company's thread if you wanted to check it out - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...diy-supplies.html?highlight=High+Desert+Ecigs.

Myself I just recently ordered from The Vapor Room.net | Vaporize Nicotine | E Cig Atomizers (RY4, Cuban, Irish Creme, and Hypnotic) and all of them only had the slightest tint to them.

I empathize with your dilemma as I vape some really dark juices myself. Ce2's are what I've been using but I have to clean them every couple of days because the coils get so gunked up.

Hope that helps.

 

[dearme]

Thanks, Psyche. I'll check them out. There are just some flavors so intricate that it's easier not to try to DIY..........LOL

 

[hairball]

Unfortunately, nothing works...not atty's or carto's. Keep plenty of carto's at your disposal. I have a few dark juices that I love from Primevaping...clogs the tar out of them but like yourself, I only get about 5-6mls through a Boge and then it hits the trash.

 

[dearme]

Just lately I've been alternating a dark juice with an unflavored juice, which I like to vape anyway, and that does seem to allow me to vape dark juices in that carto longer.....seems to flush the worst of clogs out...........worth a try anyway..........

 

[dormouse]

I use Vapor4Life WOW juices as my two main juices. After trying MANY vanillas, their WOW Vanilla is a clear on I like. And I also tried lots of carto-clogging chocolate and cocoas and ended up using their WOWbacco which is a cocoa tobacco (very little tobacco smell) and it's clear an colorless except for the nicotine.

I have not tried any SmokelessImage juices but as another carto-model company maybe they also have clear juices.

Both of the above are KR808D-1 threaded for their cartos so if you want to try sample packs to try flavors you may need an adapter. Goodprophets has cheap adapters.

 

[BiffRocko]

Lies! This can be overcome!

I fell in love with a dark juice* that became my daily vape. I loved it so much that I changed my equipment specifically to vape it. After much trial and error, the solution turned out to be pretty simple.

More heat at the coil.

The combination I found that did the trick and resisted clogging was a Cisco 306 LR 1.5 driven by a 3.7v IMR battery. (ie. roughly 9 consistent watts)

Now my daily vape is much lighter thanks to a fortuitous sample sent along with an order of my former favorite, but I vaped that dark cloudy muck all day, every day for the better part of a year.

*Vapor's Etc. - Red Box

 

[dearme]

I'll try that. I used to use 306 2.0s cartos, but recently changed to 510 2.0 cartos. I think I have some Cisco 306 LR 2.0 attys around and maybe some 510 1.5s. I also use a bottom feeder box with 18650s. Maybe you have persuaded me to drop cartos..........LOL

 

[BiffRocko]

Yeah. If you like the flavor enough, give it a shot.

I should point out that 1.5 510s (Eastmall & Joye) could not keep up with my liquid. It wasn't until I went to the Cisco 306 1.5 specifically that I finally beat the clogging enough that it wasn't breaking my bank. Even then I was still using LiIon batteries and had to change to IMR's to get enough heat throughout the charge to conquer clogging.

One thing to watch out for is that your coil will get ashy. The key to getting a dark juice to not clog is getting enough heat to burn off some of the particulates stuck to the coil. This of course means a bit of ash. This can affect flavor over a period of time. Alcohol soaks help get rid of the build up as well as lightly scraping your fingernail across the coil.

Also, because you're burning the particulates off, it helps to occasionally let the atty go a bit drier than you normally would. I'm not talking cherry red coil dry, but not too far shy of it. Sort of a semi-dry burn.

Those are the main things I learned loving a dark liquid. If I think of anything else that might help, I'll be sure to post again.

 

[BiffRocko]

Oh, I also found that using a bottom feeder helped. I could run the atty a bit drier and give a squonk mid-vape to cool the coil down if I tasted it going too dry.

 

[hairball]

Lies! This can be overcome!

I fell in love with a dark juice* that became my daily vape. I loved it so much that I changed my equipment specifically to vape it. After much trial and error, the solution turned out to be pretty simple.

More heat at the coil.

Pfftttt...lies?...pfftttt...6V with a Boge 3.0ohm carto provides tons of heat and still clogs. You have good thinking but still doesn't work. Dark juices clog...some more than others. I think it's more in what the vendor uses. Primevaping's dark juices are the pits but tasty yet I've had FSUSA's dark juices and the carto has lasted longer.

 

[dormouse]

My fave FSUSA was Cocoa but the sediment drove me away from it (one of these days I'll try filtering it...). And I've had some vanillas - not that dark at all - more of a golden color - that dropped a bunch of sediment and made the carto look like butterscotch pudding on top.

 

[BiffRocko]

Pfftttt...lies?...pfftttt...6V with a Boge 3.0ohm carto provides tons of heat and still clogs. You have good thinking but still doesn't work. Dark juices clog...some more than others. I think it's more in what the vendor uses. Primevaping's dark juices are the pits but tasty yet I've had FSUSA's dark juices and the carto has lasted longer.

I suspect that, in addition to the heat, there's something different about the Cisco 306's coil that resists clogging as well. Perhaps that the coils are wound tighter than other attys I've tried. I haven't used anything else since I started using them, but everything else I threw at this juice clogged up really quickly. Once I switched to IMRs with the Ciscos, I was able to regularly get 2-3 weeks, sometimes up to a month, out of the 306 1.5s before the performance degraded to the point where I threw on a new one.

I don't doubt that certain juices are worse than others though, and this setup might not work across the board. If you like the juice enough, it's worth experimenting to find a setup that resists clogging imo.

 

[NinaFin]

I haven't had any clogging problems with Kanger dual coil lr cartomizers or with 510 SmokTech Dual-Coil XXXL 3.5ml 1.5 ohm Cartomizer. I did, however kill a bunch of atomizers with toffee and liquorice juices :-(

 

[BiffRocko]

One thing I forgot to mention is that I do debridge and dewick my Ciscos. I didn't with my first few Ciscos and once I started doing it, they lasted longer.

 

[NinaFin]

What is dewicking?

 

[BiffRocko]

There's a small wick inside of the coil on most atomizers. Dewicking is the process of removing it from the atty.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/224834-question-dewick-debridge-306-atty.html

Dewick and Debridge 306 atomizer! - YouTube

 

[DaveP]

I second the 306 and a drip tip for darker, thicker juices that clog up an atty that uses filler material. Cartos are just made for thinner, high PG mixes. I find that even a 40pg/60vg juice will kill a carto in a day or two. For those, I retire to the 306.