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[stevegmu]

"part or accessory"

Of the tobacco product, i.e.- leaves, stems, nicotine, not hardware...


What products are not considered to be tobacco products as defined by the tobacco Control Act?
The term “tobacco product” does not apply to raw materials other than tobacco used in manufacturing a component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product. Nor does it mean something that is defined as a drug, device, or combination product under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/NewsEvents/ucm173174.htm

My mods aren't made from tobacco...

 

[zoiDman]

Okay, so part or accessory "used to mean" it was clearly and obviously part of an electronic cigarette?
And now the "intended use" will extend that to hardware like the flashlight?

I hope I finally understand where you're going with this.

I think you are Getting there. LOL

And I would Hope that Manufactures and Retailers would see the Importance of All this.

Because if I was an OEM/Major Retailer, my Lawsuit would state that the FDA can Not Differentiate between people Purchasing my Products to use 0mg or to use Nicotine in them.

 

[stevegmu]

The FDA did this with vitamins and supplements.
It made labels more honest, and put the liability on the manufacturer to act right and not make untested- unproven promises

That's what's happening here.

Yes, but who cares about the truth? Vaping will be banned, because the retailers can't say e-cigs are smoking cessation products...

 

[zoiDman]

The FDA did this with vitamins and supplements.
It made labels more honest, and put the liability on the manufacturer to act right and not make untested- unproven promises

That's what's happening here.

Nobody said there will not be Standardized Packaging in the e-Cigarette market.

But e-Liquids (that contain Nicotine that was derived from Tobacco) are not a Vitamins and or a Supplement.

So don't expect them to be Regulated the Exact Same Way.

 

[stevegmu]

Hardware won't be touched at all. I know some like to promote fear and raise donations through the fear, but the 2007 date only applies to e-liquid, according to the FDA's own definitions-


Will new tobacco products now be subject to FDA approval?
The Agency will need to conduct a premarket review of applications for tobacco products not commercially marketed in the United States as of February 15, 2007, unless those products are exempt for certain reasons outlined in the FSPTCA. For those products requiring premarket review, FDA will review, among other things, information submitted regarding the health risks of the tobacco product, ingredients, methods used for manufacture, and labeling.

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/NewsEvents/ucm173174.htm

Hardware is not a tobacco product...

 

[zoiDman]

Of the tobacco product, i.e.- leaves, stems, nicotine, not hardware...


What products are not considered to be tobacco products as defined by the Tobacco Control Act?
The term “tobacco product” does not apply to raw materials other than tobacco used in manufacturing a component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product. Nor does it mean something that is defined as a drug, device, or combination product under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act


My mods aren't made from tobacco...

Great. So the VG and the PG and Flavorings/Sweeteners or the SS in a Atty in the Raw Form are Not a Tobacco Product.

Go read the Entire FDA Clarification.

 

[stevegmu]

Great. So the VG and the PG and Flavorings/Sweeteners or the SS in a Atty in the Raw Form are Not a Tobacco Product.

Go read the Entire FDA Clarification.

I have. I understand it, so have no concern at all over regulations, but I don't make a living off of the fear of others...

The nicotine is in the e-liquid. That makes e-liquid a part of the tobacco product. Disposable cigalikes are the only hardware which meet the guidelines for regulations...

 

[zoiDman]

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Hardware is not a tobacco product...

So what is a "Tobacco Accessory"?

And can that be Consider a Tobacco Product? After Deeming of Course.

 

[DC2]

Of the tobacco product, i.e.- leaves, stems, nicotine, not hardware...

Are cigarette rolling papers regulated?

http://www.changelabsolutions.org/s..._Law_Notes_What_Is_Covered_FINAL_20110912.pdf

Flavored Rolling Papers and Blunt Wraps The 2009 FDA Law bans not only flavored cigarettes, but also flavored cigarette “component parts,” including the tobacco, filter, or paper.8 This means that flavored cigarette rolling papers may not be legally sold.9 However, flavored component parts of cigars, such as blunt wrap, , are not illegal to sell because the sale of flavored cigars is not currently prohibited.

http://www.hbiinternational.com/news.php?n_id=63

Here is what the FDA said: At this time, however, FDA intends to limit its enforcement of the requirements of Section 910 and 905(j) to finished, regulated tobacco products. These finished, regulated tobacco products include the products named in section 901(b) (i.e. cigarettes, smokeless tobacco and roll-your-own tobacco) and tobacco products deemed by regulation to be regulated under chapter IX, as well as the component parts of regulated tobacco products sold or distributed for consumer use, (e.g., cigarette rolling papers, filters, or filter tubes sold separately to consumers or as part of kits).

 

[stevegmu]

So what is a "Tobacco Accessory"?

And can that be Consider a Tobacco Product? After Deeming of Course.

Blunt wraps and everything in e-liquid except for the nicotine. The nicotine is the tobacco product, the PG,VG, flavorings the accessory...

 

[DC2]

The term “tobacco product” does not apply to raw materials other than tobacco used in manufacturing a component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product. Nor does it mean something that is defined as a drug, device, or combination product under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act

You are reading that wrong.

It does not apply to raw materials used in the manufacturing of a part or accessory.
But it does apply to the part or accessory.

It applies to atomizers.
Not to kanthal.

 

[stevegmu]

You are reading that wrong.

It does not apply to raw materials used in the manufacturing of a part or accessory.
But it does apply to the part or accessory.

It applies to atomizers.
Not to kanthal.

Only the atomizers in disposables...

 

[zoiDman]

I have. I understand it, so have no concern at all over regulations, ...

Man... Where have I heard this Before?

 

[stevegmu]

Man... Where have I heard this Before?

The last 2 years when the FDA was going to ban vaping the next day...
The states are where anything of significance will happen. The FDA will sit back and bankroll studies for 5 years...

 

[zoiDman]

The last 2 years when the FDA was going to ban vaping the next day...
The states are where anything of significance will happen. The FDA will sit back and bankroll studies for 5 years...

I sure wish You worked for the FDA steve in a Position of Power.

So the FDA is going to Wait for Another 5 Years? And take things into the Next (Unknown) Presidency.

Hummm? I wonder what the current Health and Human Service Secretary would have to Say about that?

 

[stevegmu]

I sure wish You worked for the FDA steve in a Position of Power.

So the FDA is going to Wait for Another 5 Years? And take things into the Next (Unknown) Presidency.

Hummm? I wonder what the current Health and Human Service Secretary would have to Say about that?

Minimum age, marketing restrictions, safety caps and labeling...

 

[Bad Ninja]

Are cigarette rolling papers regulated?

http://www.changelabsolutions.org/s..._Law_Notes_What_Is_Covered_FINAL_20110912.pdf


http://www.hbiinternational.com/news.php?n_id=63

http://www.changelabsolutions.org/s..._Law_Notes_What_Is_Covered_FINAL_20110912.pdf


No.

Rolling papers are not regulated by the FDA.
Nor are they banned.
See any convenience store for proof.


You just quoted a 5 year old post on HBIs website.
They are the largest wholesaler of rolling papers on the planet.

Not exactly the best source for information.

 

[DaveP]

We definitely want ecigs to be classified as tobacco products. If they were deemed to be medical devices you'd likely have to buy your mod and accessories from pharmaceutical suppliers and drug stores. If that happened the prices would skyrocket just because they could. Another control issue would be that pharma could control nicotine delivery levels to a preset dosage. No more variable voltage or wattage and probably no more devices with user replaceable coils. They'd want to be sure you didn't exceed the design dosage of nicotine your doctor prescribed.

As a tobacco product prices would remain affordable, IMO.

 

[DC2]

No.

Rolling papers are not regulated by the FDA.

Read this thread, and, of course the links provided therein...
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...n-new-tobacco-products-rolling-papers.477547/

It's too hot here and I'm going to the pool now.

 

[zoiDman]

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It's too hot here and I'm going to the pool now.

You got that Right.

It's Smokin Hot Outside.