blood pressure changes???

[MREXE]

I searched the posts and found very little on this. Ive been vaping for 3 months now and recently went for my yearly check up. Im 58, fairly good health, but my blood pressure was 160/100!!!! yikes. I have been on BP meds for years and checked it often at 120/70. I have been vaping 36mg and cut that to 24 and soon to 18. Nicotine is a powerful vaso constrictor, causing gum receding, and heart disease. Ok, so most of us know this.........just curioius, if anyone else has experienced high BP since starting...........Please check yours often!!! thx

 

[jj2]

First off, I'm pretty much off nicotine. Basically I use it for what I classify as special occasions.
I started vaping March and went to doctor September because I was having some problems. Well the culprit was that my BP was too low. He cut my meds and I'm doing great.
You might want to cut back on the nicotine and see if that helps. Also, dehydration will cause your BP to rise. Are you drinking more water?

 

[doots]

Mine has gone down considerably since I have been vaping.
averaging 134 over 86

I dont do low nic juice either.

BP was extremely high with analog use.

So it has went way down to a safe level now.

 

[martha1014]

From Web MD
How Does Smoking Increase Heart Disease Risk?

The nicotine present in tobacco products causes:

• Decreased oxygen to the heart.
• Increased blood pressure and heart rate.
• Increase in blood clotting.
• Damage to cells that line coronary arteries and other blood vessels.

I went to the doctor after vaping for 6 months and my B/P was up also. I must be getting more nicotine than when I smoked.

 

[MREXE]

interesting Martha, not sure how others are experiencing lower BP, I know nicotine is the culprit, that and the fact I retired 3 years ago. my weight is perfect for my height, Im just not as active as I was when working, so im sure that has to contribute. But, all in all, I feel much better without all the crap in tobacco.....just have to figure out the perfect formula for me.........

 

[doots]

You have to keep in mind when people say tobacco products they are almost always referring to cigarettes,

Which have over 4000 chemicals in each cig. Many of these components cause bp rise also.

Good luck to you. Hope yours goes down..

There are many causes for BP rise. We need to look at everything we are doing to ascertain what is causing it not just one facet.

 

[rocketvapor]

My BP was prefect all my life....until last year when it spiked suddenly and stayed there for several months. This coincided with some serious lung problems (anad stress from work).

Since vaping, my BP is back in the normal range (and lungs are better). I still have the same stressful job, so I contribute it to getting off tobacco. I never used BP meds, but I was headed that way if things kept on the way they were.

I hope you and your doctor can get to the bottom of it. Good luck!

 

[bassn99]

I've been vaping for over three months with the same BP as always. I really cannot see where vaping would cause a rise in BP unless you are vaping 36mg constantly all day long. I vape a lot, anywhere from 12-24 mg. At night it is almost continous. Depending on work (which I am back at) I have to cut back during the day.
I just had my physical before I left to work out of town and everything was good.
Oh except my bad cholesterol, (never been great)

 

[override]

My blood pressure has gone up to stage 1 prehypertension since I started vaping, but my weight has also gone up considerably aswell, Since I have become unemployed I have gained about 40 pounds, so I dont know if it is vaping or weight gain that has cause it to go up.

I can say that through all my life I constantly have struggled with my weight and keeping it below 200, at the same time I have been smoking since I was 18 and have never ever had high blood pressure, I don't see how vaping would cause high BP but who knows. I have never had problems with blood pressure while smoking and weighing about what I do now so I dont know, its deff something I am going to keep an eye on.

 

[quitting sucks]

mrexe, i'll let ya know how mine does. I haven't vaped yet but seems promising in ending the habit and should have everything in monday or so.

I'm half your age but have always had low bp other than a episode recently where it shot up to around 170/120 and got a ambulance ride, tubes in nether regions and all kinds of other fun stuff.

Anyway they put me on plavix, metroprolol, pravastatin and asprin if you happen to be on any of those. I'm not over weight but am lucky enough to be a very rare case at my age to have a rare blood disorder that makes my blood thick. Bp machine is on standby but the new meds and vaping will hit between oncologist visits so any data from there will be a mix.

If i forget to post here again feel free to pm me to remind me if it will help you.

 

[Cherice]

I recently did a comparrison as I was feeling odd and my heart seemed to be racing from time to time. Here is my background... I am now 41 and was on bp medicine about 6 years ago. Was on it for 3 years. I then lost 100lbs and cut back on my smoking and was able to get off the meds. Gradually, I increased my smoking again and in the last 3 years have gained back 20 of my 100 lbs lost. Anyway....I started vaping the end of Sept. I still continued smoking my Camels, but only 3-5 a day. I noticed when I smoke an analog, I got light-headed and my heart would race...got sort of a buzz. I decided to pick up a blood pressure wrist cuff on my way to work. When I got there I took my pressure and it was 154/100. I about fell off my chair. I had always been about 120/80 after the weight loss, etc. I started taking my readings after vaping and after an anolog. I saw no increase in bp after vaping, however, after the analog it always spiked heavily. A week ago I smoked my last Camel as my bp was 165/104. This is simply my experience. It was enough to scare me away from analogs after 30 years (yes, I started smoking at 12!). Every person's body is different and responds uniquely to things. For me, I am thrilled that I can vape worry-free relative to my bp. One further thing I should mention...I vape 6-12mg nic. I noticed the same "funny" feeling when vaping 24mg nic that I did with the Camels. Good luck to you and keep a close eye on it.

 

[lunaras]

Long story short, I went to the urgent care in Oct '08 for constant headaches for weeks and as part of the initial testing was BP. Mine was 182/136. I ended up getting carted off to the ER by ambulance because they thought I might end up stroking out on them (I was only 25 at the time). I ended up on BP meds and began home monitoring. Over the next six months my BP ranged from 140/90 up to 240/160. Over the summer, my doctor found the correct meds and dose and my BP stayed around 140/90 for the most part.

Two months ago, I started vaping and my BP has not gone above 130/85 and this morning, it was 100/68 and I could barely get out of bed because of this. I am amazed at the difference in my BP but I think it's time to visit the doc again to adjust my meds.

 

[Vaporista]

I'd like to resurrrect this thread, I also notice increased bp but can we have more input on this thread here? I would have thought that by quitting analogs by now the bp would have dropped. I just hope that I won't have to drop to 0 nic. But there are other factors- age and of course I gained a little weight after stopping cigarettes.That doesn't help. Maybe it's the caffeine, my intake is up of that, but there's a lot of factors. All I know I was borderline high a couple of months before quitting analogs. Now it's High. Would vaping 18-26 daily with 36 interspersed have any pronounced effect? or is it just unknown.?

 

[MREXE]

well, as stated before, nicotine is a knownn vasoconstrictor. havent had an analog in over 3 months, gained five pounds but that shouldnt be a factor. I am using 24mg juice and think that is the reason. Ill cut to 18, which works fine, problem is, I think I vape alot more than I use to smoke (1 pack a day).......but, none the less, I still feel much better, and can taste and smell again! oh, since last check, bp has gone down to 148-150 over 90 or so, still not good or what it used to be.

 

[Madame Psychosis]

In terms of heart disease risk, I'd just remind y'all that one of the biggest sources of stress on the heart from smoking analogs is the carbon monoxide it adds to your blood.
CO binds to hemoglobin and reduces the blood oxygen carrying capacity, and your heart has to work harder and harder.
Unfortunately, because CO binds to hemoglobin irreversibly, you have to wait 2-5 years for your body to make all new blood.
That's not really a blood pressure issue, but it's another heart stress issue that is gradually improving for us all as we quit/reduce analogs.

It's also worth considering that blood pressure is one of those indicators that is really sensitive to a lot of things: it can be raised by dietary salt, stress, sleep deprivation, weight gain (even minor gain!), other medications you are taking (including common ones like the birth control pill), reduced athletic activity, caffeine intake, hormonal changes, other underlying conditions......and surely more that I don't know.

Still, I can definitely believe that some people are taking in more nicotine than before and it is raising BP. I actually can resolve my hypotensive dizziness by vaping a bit of high nicotine liquid. (I'm on a medication that has a side effect of sharply lowering BP, so I'm at 100/70. Some days I can't stand up without my vision going fuzzy.)

For those of you who need to reduce nicotine intake but worry you won't get the same satisfaction, I'd suggest you try an HV mod -- you get killer flavor and throat hit and vapor at the same time you lower the nic.

 

[four2109]

I got dizzy just reading this thread.....

 

[quitting sucks]

In terms of heart disease risk, I'd just remind y'all that one of the biggest sources of stress on the heart from smoking analogs is the carbon monoxide it adds to your blood.
CO binds to hemoglobin and reduces the blood oxygen carrying capacity, and your heart has to work harder and harder.
Unfortunately, because CO binds to hemoglobin irreversibly, you have to wait 2-5 years for your body to make all new blood.
That's not really a blood pressure issue, but it's another heart stress issue that is gradually improving for us all as we quit/reduce analogs.

It's also worth considering that blood pressure is one of those indicators that is really sensitive to a lot of things: it can be raised by dietary salt, stress, sleep deprivation, weight gain (even minor gain!), other medications you are taking (including common ones like the birth control pill), reduced athletic activity, caffeine intake, hormonal changes, other underlying conditions......and surely more that I don't know.

I was thinking rbc's only have a life span of about 3-4 months?

 

[ladyraj]

I'm 53 and always had low blood pressure even as a 1-2 pack a day smoker for 36 years (103/70) would spike higher depending on stressors (120/70) migraine/pain (138/70).

General medical info:
Normal BP is 120/80, prehypertension is 139/89, 140/90 HBP
1) The top number is systolic BP: people who are 50 or older, systolic pressure gives the most accurate diagnosis of high blood pressure.
2) The bottom is dystolic BP: decreases over age 50 but is indicative of HBP in younger folks.

Source: What Are High Blood Pressure and Prehypertension?

My experience since vaping 11-24 mg at about 3-5 ml a day has resulted in my systolic BP spiking as high as 161 and after 20 minutes of relaxing and not vaping returning to about 131.

Not good numbers in my book. The only variable that has changed in this scenario is a switch to PVs. Though I know there are many stories to counter my individual experience I sense there are many who simply do not know their numbers.

I specifically enlisted my physician in this endeavor to monitor bloodwork, BP, heartrate and other variables to assess how this product would effect MY physiological responses. (It was the closest I could come to being a lab rat) The systolic bp of 161 was done 5 minutes after a 2 minute vaping session at 24 mg. Twenty minutes later the number dropped to 131, and 20 minutes after that a return to baseline.

The good news is triglicerides decreased moderately and cholesterol dropped 10 points via blood serum. Urine cleared the amber test and specific gravity...but I didn't asess cotinine.

Sorry for the long post and possibly more info than needed!

 

[Madame Psychosis]

I was thinking rbc's only have a life span of about 3-4 months?

I did overstate. I wish I could still edit as I would say 2 years at most.

Average lifespan of a red blood cell is about 120 days (source). The range quoted by blood banks for restoration of one pint of donated blood in a donor varies a bit but minimum in the US is 56 days (source) and you have about 8-12 pints in your body. Many hematological characteristics start turning around within two weeks of smoking cessation (source). I overstated on the time it takes for hemoglobin to restore, but some studies say it takes up to five years for other hematological characteristics to return to normal (source).

 

[rave]

I posted this on September 1st. My apologies go those that have already read it:

"About a month ago I "accidentally" quit smoking analogs in favor of vaping. There was no intention of quitting - I just like vaping much better. This is after 41 years of smoking analogs! I felt so FREE!!

I started feeling very dizzy to the point of feeling like I would pass out. Then I missed a day of work because I was just too frightened to drive. So I quit vaping for 24 hours to see if my mental "balance" would return. I tried smoking analogs again during this 24 hour period, but they tasted so awful (I'd been vaping exclusively for two weeks) that I could only take a couple of drags every few hours. I still felt nearly drunk and barely able to walk.

At that point I called my neurologist because I have multiple sclerosis and thought that I was having a relapse. She prescribed some meds. I was still being whammed with "the whirlies". I felt so tired and drained I was barely able to do anything other than sleep.

Yesterday at work, it hit me so hard at my desk that I think I may have actually blacked out a coupla times. Can't be sure of that because I couldn't think. I could hear my bosses and another co-worker in the background discussing whether they should call an ambulance or just drive me to the ER. The co-worker took me.

A blood pressure test very quickly determined that my blood pressure had tanked. I was still taking the blood pressure medications of a smoker ( three of 'em! ) even though I'm not a smoker anymore. It had never occured to me because I'm still getting nicotine. Apparently, not nearly as much as I was getting as a pack and a half a day smoker.

By the way - The doctor said that MY LUNGS WERE CLEAR! Prior to taking up vaping, they would crackle when I laid down to sleep at night. "
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To clarify, I am currently vaping 12mg - but I do so constantly at work and at home. BP is dern-near perfect.