Blood Pressure

[Retriever]

A 50/50 mix will cut your nic by one-half, as the plain vg won't have any nic in it. Good Luck!

 

[eddy-r3]

Great stuff! Thanks for the reply

So i guess then if i mix 50% 20mg and 50% 10mg it would result in 15mg juice?

Many thanks
Eddy

 

[Spacycase321]

I found that vaping makes my heart rate go up. That could just be me tho.

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[eddy-r3]

Well ive been doing some regular testing the last few days on this subject.

18mg puts my BP up quite a lot where as 11mg doesnt even make it move a little bit! lol even though i still get my fix of nic on the 11mg it doesnt really affect my BP too much. Not like the 18mg does. Well yeah this is all very obvious, the purpose of this was to a) see what effect various nic levels have on me and b) try it 0nic and see what effect the PG has on the BP/PR

I am still waiting for some 0 nic to come in the post and when it does ill be giving it a whirl

I feel a little bit heavy chested this morning, is this a normal effect of giving up smoking or should i attribute it to vaping?

Many thanks
Eddy

 

[pAth77]

I found that vaping makes my heart rate go up. That could just be me tho.

It's not just you. An increased heart rate is one of the side effects of nicotine.

Just to clarify a few things that I've noticed over the past year. It's pretty apparent that a lot of ECFers misunderstand the correlation between nicotine, blood pressure, and headaches. Now while it is true that all three can be interrelated, it's usually not the case for most of us. Nicotine primarily acts as a stimulant when it binds to nicotinic receptors in both the CNS (brain) and the adrenal medulla. Binding to the brain results in the release of dopamine and leads to the pleasure/reward sensation. Binding to the adrenal medulla results in the release of epinephrine and leads to the sympathetic response, which includes an increased heart rate, blood pressure, etc. Headaches can result from both too much nicotine (which most of us have experienced when we get new PVs or new juices) as well as from too little nicotine (withdrawal symptoms).

The effects of nicotine are very short-lived (half-life of around 2 hours), and it's effects on blood pressure are not extremely significant for most people. Using the OP's values from his original post, an increase of 141/82 to 158/92 is not clinically significant (unless he was symptomatic...and the headache does not count here since it can be attributed to the nicotine). Both values are still considered to be stage 1 hypertension. Granted, this may pose more of a problem for an individual whose baseline BP is closer to 180/120....but a person with a BP that high would be a whole 'nother story.

Just keep this in mind, although we all experience an increase in BP when we vape, we are all still taking in a whole lot less nicotine than we were when we were smoking. Studies have shown that the respiratory epithelium absorbs approximately 11% of nicotine that is inhaled when smoking. Studies have not been done to determine how much nicotine is absorbed when vaping, but I think that it is safe to say that it would be around the same value. Assuming that the average vaper uses 24mg/mL liquid and vapes 5mL per day (and I think that this is more than the average person), that would translate to 13.2 mg of nicotine absorbed into the bloodstream. Once cigarette contains about 9mg of nicotine, so a one pack per day smoker absorbs nearly 50% more (19.8mg). Suffice it to say, a majority of vapers are taking in a lot less nicotine than when we were smoking...now everyone pat themselves on the back!!!

...I feel a little bit heavy chested this morning, is this a normal effect of giving up smoking or should i attribute it to vaping?

It is very common for people to experience this when quitting smoking. The respiratory tract is lined by ciliated epithelium that acts to push out all the "gunk" from your lungs. This lining is damaged when smoking, but once you quit your lungs start the process of healing/repairing that damaged lining. Coughing up phlegm and mucus is also normal during this time.

I hope that this wasn't too heavy of a post. I just wanted to get some education out there.

 

[eddy-r3]

Its always good to get a break down of why and how, thanks for the educated post

My BP is far from high but wanted to know if the PG/VG that we vape actually has an impact on the BP/PR as well as the nic, i was aware that nic does cause a rise in BP and find it interesting how much of a difference 18mg to 11mg of nic makes in regard BP/PR.

Glad that my heavy chest is just a normal process of quitting, which i did think it was its just nice to have a second outside opinion Im on 18mg this morning and finding myself tolerating very well in comparison to the last 2 days where i have struggled with headaches from vaping it, i guess its just a case of getting used to it, i never used to have a problem with 40 analogs a day, full strength as well! I used to want more, where as im quite happy on 18mg.

I know this has probably been asked before, but what is the equivilant nic content of a normal analog compared to eliquid?

Many thanks
Eddy

 

[pAth77]

Its always good to get a break down of why and how, thanks for the educated post

My BP is far from high but wanted to know if the PG/VG that we vape actually has an impact on the BP/PR as well as the nic, i was aware that nic does cause a rise in BP and find it interesting how much of a difference 18mg to 11mg of nic makes in regard BP/PR.

Glad that my heavy chest is just a normal process of quitting, which i did think it was its just nice to have a second outside opinion Im on 18mg this morning and finding myself tolerating very well in comparison to the last 2 days where i have struggled with headaches from vaping it, i guess its just a case of getting used to it, i never used to have a problem with 40 analogs a day, full strength as well! I used to want more, where as im quite happy on 18mg.

I know this has probably been asked before, but what is the equivilant nic content of a normal analog compared to eliquid?

Many thanks
Eddy

Honestly, I don't have an answer as to why we didn't have a problem with headaches when we smoked, yet we all have experienced nic-headaches when vaping. My only guess is that the other 4000+ chemicals in cigarettes have something to do with it.

The average cigarette contains approximately 9mg of nicotine...so 1mL of 12mg liquid would be equivalent to 1 1/3 cigarettes.

 

[eddy-r3]

So nic levels in eliquid is always measured mg/1ml? example, 20mg eliquid is 20mg per 1ml of liquid?

Which would equate to approx 2 analogs?

I hope im getting this right its just i want to try and monitor what i am taking in, for examples, i vaped approx 2.4 ml of 11mg eliquid yesterday in the space of approx 6-7 hours. So what would the equivilant be in analogs? Sorry for all the questions!

many thanks
Eddy

 

[pAth77]

Technically, most vendors are labeling things incorrectly. It should be labeled as a concentration (mg/mL)...so your 11mg liquid contains 11mg of nicotine per mL of solution. If you vaped 2.4mL, that would equate to 26.4mg of nicotine, which is equivalent to about 3 cigarettes.

 

[cardiackid]

the year leading up to my heart attack I was having a "blackout" sensation that I know realize was a blood pressure issue(low)
I was a little confused too as since I started vaping I am having heartburn issues as well - hard to figure as all the meds I have to take now can also cause the heartburn.Yesterday though..I had a good day...drank water...whenever I thought about it, but I did notice than when I'd swallowed some juice 12mg pure vg...bang...had a lump in my throat! So...not like I'm gonna quit vaping - just gotta try some other recipes!
But ya...water helped me w/blood pressure as well....had a good day.

 

[Stormiefury]

Swallowing juice is not good. Keep up with the water!! I'm glad you had a good day. Just don't swallow anymore juice if you can help it.

Stormie