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[dragonlover]

E-cigarettes: Threat or therapy? - Health & wellness - The Boston Globe


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[Vocalek]

I can't even read the full story.

 

[Running Wolf]

good catch. Liked it... and at least it had some fairness to it.

 

[cookiebun]

I can't even read the full story.

What browser are you using?.
I had no trouble with Firefox.
I saved it as a PDF and can send you a copy if you like.

 

[Vocalek]

IE 9. I get the following message after it displays the first paragraph:

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It would be very strange if they had different standards for different browsers.

 

[cookiebun]

IE 9. I get the following message after it displays the first paragraph:

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It would be very strange if they had different standards for different browsers.

It's probably optimized for IE.
My Firefox is old.
Forum won't let me upload it as an attachment as it is over 2mb

 

[Dougiestyle]

I'd say it's a fair look at the situation regarding the current state of e-cigarettes.

 

[MTV]

I thought that was fair...and no mention of anti-freeze either...but H2O is also toxic in high doses...and the leading cause of drowning

 

[bruiser]

I was able to read the entire article with the latest Firefox.

If you think some of the usual suspects are quoted in the article, you'd be correct.

 

[Rickajho]

I can't even read the full story.

You have got mail!

Elaine, check your casaa inbox.

Rick

 

[Rickajho]

The article itself was reasonable. The voices from the medical community, such as Dr. Paula Johson, not so much...

"This is a device that is delivering a toxic, addictive substance,"’ Dr. Paula Johnson, a cardiologist at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and chairwoman of the commission. "We need to treat it as such."

Johnson noted that the product will remain on the market for those adults who want to use it. She said more research is critical, particularly on whether the e-cigarettes are truly effective in helping people to quit smoking and what the long-term effects are of inhaling the vaporized liquid, typically made from a base of propylene glycol.

If Dr. Johnson could get a teeny tiny crack into that very close minded brain of hers perhaps she could look around and find out out THAT PEOPLE ARE EFFECTIVELY QUITTING SMOKING USING E-CIGARETTES!!!"

I sorry for shouting. But medical professionals with a pre-biased attitude like that really bug me.

Personally, if I knew what she looked like I would March right over to the Brigham, find her, and blow some vape in an appropriate place.

Rick

 

[Running Wolf]

Johnson noted that the product will remain on the market for those adults who want to use it. She said more research is critical, particularly on whether the e-cigarettes are truly effective in helping people to quit smoking and what the long-term effects are of inhaling the vaporized liquid, typically made from a base of propylene glycol.

If Dr. Johnson could get a teeny tiny crack into that very close minded brain of hers perhaps she could look around and find out out THAT PEOPLE ARE EFFECTIVELY QUITTING SMOKING USING E-CIGARETTES!!!"

Helped me cut down from a pack a day smoker. Can't even stomach the taste of them after the last pack I had.

From the stuff I have read the teens and a lot of the 20-something aren't into vaping. Mostly seems to be people in their 30's or above..... Something mentioned in the article about not banning them for adults... yet.

I thought that was fair...and no mention of anti-freeze either...but H2O is also toxic in high doses...and the leading cause of drowning

You also know that H2O is a leading cause of car accidents. And it is used in nuclear power plants so it has to be bad for you. It is also one molecule off from peroxide.

 

[Vocalek]

Hmm... Just as an experiment, I tried clearing my Browser temp files and cookies. Suddenly I am able to read the whole story. I get a feeling that the Globe is counting the number of times you go look, storing it in a cookie, and then cutting off your access after a certain # of views.

(But Thanks, Rick...I got yours before I figured out how to fix my problem.)

 

[Rickajho]

Hmm... Just as an experiment, I tried clearing my Browser temp files and cookies. Suddenly I am able to read the whole story. I get a feeling that the Globe is counting the number of times you go look, storing it in a cookie, and then cutting off your access after a certain # of views.

(But Thanks, Rick...I got yours before I figured out how to fix my problem.)

Now did you do that before or after I sent you the follow up email telling you to kill your cookies? LOL

Note: No offense CookieBun! Killing cookies, not the buns.

Rick

 

[Vocalek]

Before. Great minds....

 

[rolygate]

Nine out of ten voices raised against e-cigarettes derive their income or employment in some way from pharma. The other one is crazy but we don't mind that, it helps to liven up the day.

 

[rothenbj]

When you consider the largest industries in the US-

10 Largest U.S. Manufacturing Industries 2010 Revenue (Millions) Examples
1 Petroleum and Coal Products $1,027,938 ExxonMobil, Chevron, Conoco
2 Computers and Other Electronic Products $581,344 HP, IBM, Microsoft
3 Chemicals $387,326 P&G, Dow, Dupont
4 Food $284,390 ADM, Kraft, Tyson
5 Pharmaceuticals $257,975 J&J, Pfizer, Abbot
6 Aerospace & Defense $250,446 Boeing, United, Lockheed Martin
7 Electrical Equipment & Appliances $245,307 GE, Emerson, Whirlpool
8 Machinery $194,098 Caterpillar, Deere, Xerox
9 Motor Vehicles $150,721 Ford, Navistar, PACCAR
10 Beverages $133,619 Pepsi, Coke, Dr. Pepper/Snapple

Then consider the 15 fastest growing industries-

1. Consulting: Management, technology, and scientific-related areas will proliferate.
2. Elderly Services: As “boomers” reach senior citizenship and enjoy good health, a wide variety of services will need staff.
3. Therapy: The areas of physical, occupational, and speech therapy are the most promising for opportunities.
4. EDP and Internet Hosting and Publishing: As mainstream readers move from the printed word to electronic news and information, hosting and publishing job opportunities should dramatically increase.
5. Home Health Care: As the population ages and health insurance companies tighten their budgets, home health care opportunities expand.
6. Cable and Satellite Programming: As the over-the-air networks face more quality competition from cable and satellite sources, job opportunities should continue an upward trend.
7. Computer Systems Design: Computer speed, power, and ability continues to increase and become intrinsic to all industries. While hardware design continues to provide opportunities, overall systems design is growing at a fast rate. The integration of hardware and software, particularly in the medical field, will accelerate new job opportunities.
8. Mental Health Services (non-physician): Non-psychiatric and physician services should hold steady (yet, still strong), but support service requirements should expand job prospects.
9. General Merchandise Retail: Brick and mortar retail stores should offer expanding job opportunities. Lower-level positions do not carry high compensation, but openings should abound as a good source of employment, particularly for younger members of the work force.
10. Outpatient Care: As medical procedures improve, in-patient hospital care necessities decline, making outpatient care job prospects ever brighter. Many procedures formally required multiple hospital residence. The success of arthroscopic surgery and non-invasive treatments allow more people to be fully treated as outpatients.
11. Other Health Practitioners: Health care is and will continue to gain importance for all ages. Support services need qualified professionals to maintain a high standard of care.
12. Medical and Diagnostic Laboratories: Superior health care depends on timely, accurate laboratory procedures. As diagnosis becomes more precise and effective, laboratory technicians and administrators enjoy many new job opportunities.
13. Employment Firms: When job opportunities are scarce, top employment firms, like Kelly Services, often control the best, most lucrative openings. During strong economies, good employment firms typically still offer the majority of the most promising job opportunities.
14. Waste Treatment: While it doesn’t have a high degree of “bling,” waste treatment companies should offer lucrative job opportunities in the coming years. As the population increases, the available land decreases, and concern for environmentally-friendly processes predominate, waste treatment enjoys expanding industry status.
15. Physician’s Offices and Administration: Along with the need for new physicians and registered nurses, the strong demand for health care will create expanding opportunities for assistants and administrators in medical offices.

The world is slowly creeping toward a "health through chemicals" philosophy.

 

[Bill Godshall]

rolygate wrote

Nine out of ten voices raised against e-cigarettes derive their income or employment in some way from pharma. The other one is crazy but we don't mind that, it helps to liven up the day.

I think its closer to eight out of ten voices raised against e-cigarettes derive their income or employment in some way from pharma. The other two are both crazy abstinence-only tobacco prohibitionists, but one of them is a government health official/regulator who has chosen to misrepresent the evidence and abuse his/her authority as a government official/regulator.

 

[mooreted]

I thought that was fair...and no mention of anti-freeze either...but H2O is also toxic in high doses...and the leading cause of drowning

Lol. Too true.

Sent from my easy chair using brainwaves.

 

[Bill Godshall]

The good news about this article is that the first five paragraphs (after the alluring title and subtitle, and beside the photograph with a positive description under the photo) are very positive about e-cigarettes, and most newspaper readers don't read beyond the first five paragraphs of most articles. Also, naive readers (who read entire articles that are contraversial) tend to side with the portrayal made at the beginning of the article.

For those who cannot access the article online, the title, subtitle and first five paragraphs are reprinted below, as is the description under the photo.

E-cigarettes: Threat or therapy?
Are e-cigarettes less harmful than real cigarettes? Advocates say they help smokers quit. But health officials aren’t so sure.

Valerie Schwaber smoked cigarettes while wearing the nicotine patch. It didn’t curb her cravings. The gum caused her heart to race. Acupuncture had no effect either.

Then Schwaber, a 29-year-old emergency medical technician from Lexington who smoked as much as three packs a day, tried electronic cigarettes. The battery-operated vaporizers, often shaped like a cigarette, use flavored liquids to deliver a dose of nicotine with each draw. She hasn’t smoked for more than two years.

Instead Schwaber puffs on “vape’’ that tastes like biscotti or peach. She no longer needs the asthma inhaler she once used regularly. She has no taste for tobacco. And she figures she has cut her daily nicotine intake to about one-fifth of what it was, with plans to wean herself off even that in the coming months

Give me a few more months, and I’ll just be breaking [the] hand-to-mouth’’ habit, she said.

Like many supporters of e-cigarettes, Schwaber believes the devices have saved her from a lifetime of smoking-related health problems. Yet public health and tobacco control officials have been loath to embrace them.

The description under the photo is below

Valerie Schwaber, 29, of Lexington takes a puff of her favorite e-cigarette device, which includes a small vessel for holding the liquid that was made for her by another ‘‘vaper.’’ The plume looks similar to smoke but is nearly odorless and dissipates quickly.