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Quigs, how did you cut the glass down? I gotta know as this is a great idea. I want to get a few of those Lancias and do the same thing. Looks great! :p

I put a wrap of elect. tape around the glass and snugged it in the chuck of the lathe and ran the face of the dremel 1 1/2" diamond disc against the edge (so I didn't really cut it, I ground it down). I ran the lathe at about 500 rpm and the dremal at about 10K. When you do it, keep a pot of water and a sponge handy (you don't want to be breathing glass dust)...once you get into a rhythm it goes pretty quick. I didn't bother heat smoothing the edge as it's fairly smooth (plus I'm not sure my MAP gas set will go hot enough)
 

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On that note let me say that next week I have a weeks vacation and I'm spending it in the workshop refurbishing the place and making new workbenches because it's a mess. Planning to make one full wall with workstations for the mill, lathe, sanders and drill press. Then I'm relocation my table saw and extending the outfeed table to a workbench and router station. And I have to find a good spot for the bandsaw.
Fun for all the family :)
And obviously I'll sneak in a couple new mods with all that fine wood stash I have. As the subject was brought up just last week and to please my buddy Turbo I'll finish the next few mods with Danish Oil instead of lacquer.

Just curious Capt, you have a pretty elaborate setup there, you do much more then e-cig mods, don't you?
 

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Here's my first project on the lathe...I un-did my 3 cocktail bf'ing job on my Lancia by making a new pin...it's brass but I figured I should wreak that instead of sterling silver...

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...pretty impressed with that lathe, next to no lash in anything, the factory adjustments where almost spot on...

I really have no idea what I'm doing but lathing is fun...

For your first lathe project I would say it's a dayum good job, it beats my first attempt for sure :laugh:

Just waiting now to see what CC is comin' up with because he's being mighty quiet recently and he has all those new toys ;)
 

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For your first lathe project I would say it's a dayum good job, it beats my first attempt for sure :laugh:

Just waiting now to see what CC is comin' up with because he's being mighty quiet recently and he has all those new toys ;)

I didn't mention that it took me the better part of 3 hours to make that...mind you, with a learning curve that pretty much stuck to the Y axis, I'll take the win :p

CC has been quiet...like .... Van .... in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang quiet....

Add: That's hillarious, ECF censored out Mr. Van .... first name...what a joke, like what are we ECF, 4 yrs old?...relax :facepalm:

Add: Add:...and yet they didn't censor "...."
 
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I put a wrap of elect. tape around the glass and snugged it in the chuck of the lathe and ran the face of the dremel 1 1/2" diamond disc against the edge (so I didn't really cut it, I ground it down). I ran the lathe at about 500 rpm and the dremal at about 10K. When you do it, keep a pot of water and a sponge handy (you don't want to be breathing glass dust)...once you get into a rhythm it goes pretty quick. I didn't bother heat smoothing the edge as it's fairly smooth (plus I'm not sure my MAP gas set will go hot enough)
an other thing you could try is using valve grinding compound from an auto supply store . once made a "hole saw" from a 1 " brass tube with a couple of notches filed in it . it cut a hole in a glass carboy about 3/4 thick ! for an upside down fermentation tank for beer brewing.
takes a wile but a very clean polished hole.
quigs did you see my vid on the switches ? a while back in this thread what do you think of that idea ?
have fun
 

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an other thing you could try is using valve grinding compound from an auto supply store . once made a "hole saw" from a 1 " brass tube with a couple of notches filed in it . it cut a hole in a glass carboy about 3/4 thick ! for an upside down fermentation tank for beer brewing.
takes a wile but a very clean polished hole.
quigs did you see my vid on the switches ? a while back in this thread what do you think of that idea ?
have fun

I've got a tube of die grinding compound, while it works great and has a million and one uses, it's messy (and it would've taken me a month of Sundays to take 4mm off that tank). The Dremal diamond disc is your friend

Side note...back in the day, getting diamond cutters was an expensive undertaking...if you're old like me, you'll notice that these days diamond covered cutting tools are everywhere...I had to google what was up with that. Apparently there's a relatively new method of making industrial diamonds called Detonation, literally setting off an explosion in pile of carbon dust (inside a sealed, obviously very tough container :laugh:), in a split second, the heat and pressure of the blast turns some of the dust into what are called nano-diamonds...perfect for abrasion grit. Way faster than growing, then grinding them up...and the price has come way down. Kid's these days don't know how good they got it :p...pop down to Lowes and pick up a Dremal diamond wheel for $25, pfft, get 2...that would've been big bucks in the 80's

I saw your switch Rolf...pretty much a high amp version of that reed switch I mentioned, though I wonder why you're doing that?...why not just hard wire the trigger to "always on" so as soon as you power up the OKR it fires...unless it's a German thing, where unless there's 1500 parts engineered to exact precision that must work in perfectly controlled synchronicity it's simply not worth making :laugh:

The Swiss have a saying...don't buy a German can opener, it comes with a 67 page manual.
 

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I've got a tube of die grinding compound, while it works great and has a million and one uses, it's messy (and it would've taken me a month of Sundays to take 4mm off that tank). The Dremal diamond disc is your friend

Side note...back in the day, getting diamond cutters was an expensive undertaking...if you're old like me, you'll notice that these days diamond covered cutting tools are everywhere...I had to google what was up with that. Apparently there's a relatively new method of making industrial diamonds called Detonation, literally setting off an explosion in pile of carbon dust (inside a sealed, obviously very tough container :laugh:), in a split second, the heat and pressure of the blast turns some of the dust into what are called nano-diamonds...perfect for abrasion grit. Way faster than growing, then grinding them up...and the price has come way down. Kid's these days don't know how good they got it :p...pop down to Lowes and pick up a Dremal diamond wheel for $25, pfft, get 2...that would've been big bucks in the 80's

I saw your switch Rolf...pretty much a high amp version of that reed switch I mentioned, though I wonder why you're doing that?...why not just hard wire the trigger to "always on" so as soon as you power up the OKR it fires...unless it's a German thing, where unless there's 1500 parts engineered to exact precision that must work in perfectly controlled synchronicity it's simply not worth making :laugh:

The Swiss have a saying...don't buy a German can opener, it comes with a 67 page manual.

thanks the comeback quigs !
love the german can opener !!!
you got a point there..,.my way of thinking was that the first contact would only connect the power to the board with no sparking since the current is extremely low. then the fire botton will fire with the pos contact already made.the contacts should last for ever .
to wire the zener to pin 1 solid ....that sounds a good way to go ! the contact points of 10 amps should last any who .
still would use the relay contacts even not needed for current reqired but simple to build and very small switch .
back to the drawing board...the kraut
 

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Thanks for the input Capt. I agree on all counts. I spent most all of my adult life working either on the road or in the center of a major city, so never a chance to have a garage, let alone a shop. Grew up with my step dad having a nice wood shop in the garage for a couple years, but he left it once we moved. I've always been into building, quite a bit with wood, and exposure to many others while earning a BFA, but am finally, finally not only settled, but getting a shop space to continue building. I have quite a bit for larger scale building, mainly with wood so far. Haven't build nice, small objects since high school though. My patina shop is small and is mostly chemicals, not tools.

Not that I need to justify the expense, but I am quite serious about building a shop. I'm in the fortunate situation of having left my previous career to stay home and care for my son during the day. My goal is continue growing the little biz I started this past year, so by the time he starts going to school I'll be dialed in and ready to go full time. I only talk about ecig stuff here, but there are quite a few other areas I've been building this year as well. I think I've far since exhausted the limits of my Dremel and other tools I've used in unique ways to get things done.

That said, I do plan on doing a bit of milling. Not making metal mods so much, but parts for mods and cutting sheets of Al, Cu, etc; all pretty light duty. I've seen some folks milling out their wood sometimes, and it looks intriguing, although I see to get a mill with that speed capability is a bump up. I'm looking to spend around $1500, keep in mind that includes, bits, clamps, and any other accessories. Been scoping the local used market since this thread was started; nothing close has popped up and I don't have the space for a big mill.

Am I asking for too much from one machine? Maybe a mini mill and a nice router setup?

I'm new to this stuff but if your main goal is making mods or projects in the same scale, a mill can do it all....square, plane, mill, drill, and drum sand. If your projects are going to be bigger, a router setup would probably be better. I've only had my mill a little while but I already wish I had bought one of these years ago.
 

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I'm new to this stuff but if your main goal is making mods or projects in the same scale, a mill can do it all....square, plane, mill, drill, and drum sand. If your projects are going to be bigger, a router setup would probably be better. I've only had my mill a little while but I already wish I had bought one of these years ago.

Thanks RN! I really am torn. Looked a mills vs router, dp, other options. My radial arm can do quite a bit with wood for me... One day I'll hopefully have all of them. Just a question of what will give me the most added capabilities next.

Decisions, decisions. Which mill did you get?
 

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All is quiet on the thread so I presume you're all building frantically :)

I started on my second this weekend :)

I'm working with ebony again, and spalted maple (I think). The spalted wood looks cool but damn is it a pain in the .... to work with. I had a couple of panels soaked with a couple of layers of ca then sanded down real nice, both sides because I couldn't decide which side I wanted facing out. Then I milled for final thickness but got deeper than the ca soaked in so it ripped that poor balsa like wood to shreds. I managed to salvage it but it took more work than it's worth I think.
This ones going to have a couple a metal accents too :)

By the way, while I was pouring ca on the spalted wood, in some areas (not all), I saw what looked to be small trails of smoke. Is this some kind of reaction with the fungi in the wood? Is it toxic?
 

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I'm new to, and if your goal is to build a first working mod, you can do it using whatever tools you have on hand. Sandpaper and drill is pretty much all you need if you're willing to apply a lot of elbow grease. Doing the first one with whatever you already have available will give you a good feel for what you need in priority in order to make the second one better etc.. my 2 cts
 

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Thanks RN! I really am torn. Looked a mills vs router, dp, other options. My radial arm can do quite a bit with wood for me... One day I'll hopefully have all of them. Just a question of what will give me the most added capabilities next.

Decisions, decisions. Which mill did you get?

I got the Grizzly G0463 which seeing in person and using for a little while, I think I'd have been just as happy with the LSM. I wasn't sure what all projects I'll be doing so I splurged for a little bigger one. But that LSM package is a nice deal and LSM has good clean product (I have their lathe) relative to competition.
Will you be fabricating any metal parts? If I had no plans of working with metal, I would have opted for a router setup with an x/y table.
 

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...By the way, while I was pouring ca on the spalted wood, in some areas (not all), I saw what looked to be small trails of smoke. Is this some kind of reaction with the fungi in the wood? Is it toxic?

I've noticed that before using Q tips doing a CA finish. If the cotton of the Q tips has a high humidity level it'll smoke (CA cures with moisture).

Is the smoke toxic? probably[emoji6]



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I'm new to, and if your goal is to build a first working mod, you can do it using whatever tools you have on hand. Sandpaper and drill is pretty much all you need if you're willing to apply a lot of elbow grease. Doing the first one with whatever you already have available will give you a good feel for what you need in priority in order to make the second one better etc.. my 2 cts

no doubt, I've seen work done with a dremmel that at first glance you'd of thought it was CNC. Straight up amazing work. With limited tooling, time and patience is really all you need to create some nice work.
 
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