BOTTOM FEEDERS= a place for everything modified and/or custom made

[Quigsworth]

I'm a big fan of the dual (opposing each other) squonk holes... makes squonking a breeze , it looks more balanced plus you're shedding weight (every gram counts)

I've finally got all the major parts to my latest built and since the subject of weight came up I decided to pile everything on to a digital scale and holy crap!...381 grams (no batt, no juice)... this will NOT be a daily...but in all honestly it was never mentioned to be...It's more of a "I wonder if I can even build this" mod kinda thing...

I keep track and I notice that when I go out I almost always grab one of my plastic Hammond's or the new Woody I made... lugging around a lb. of mod gets boring fast (never mind the batt life)... in fact you'll end up leaving some where cause you're always putting it down to do something.

While I completly agree with Steve on the "box" paradigm...its tough, you've got a bottle of juice, rda and batt.... When you pile all that stuff together so it'll function the most logical shape is rectangular...Turbo and I have both built shot gun tube mods to mix it up a bit but the bottom line is its still sort of rectangular in shape.

One thing I always thought of doing is mocking up a batt, bottle and RDA in a functional layout out of high density foam, then get some of that putty that hardeneds when you bake it and hand mold a body encasing the gear....Cook it, then bandsaw it in half and get to work on the mill...just a thought

 

[RiverNut]

+1 on the dual squonk holes

on the box subject- function dictates shape for the most part but as young as this thread is, it has already demonstrated how aesthetically diverse a box can be.

Modding for me not only serves to challenge my build skills but more importantly is a creative outlet where I can perceive and create something unique. I have a modest background in art and nothing gives me more satisfaction than the whole creative process. I've done a couple of PC mods with some light fabrication and this is just a way for me to continue that creative outlet.

 

[CaptSteve]

Quigs you're absolutely right in that given we have to use a bottle, battery and an RDA that immediately limits the form factor somewhat. What I'm saying is that given these limitations I'm going to play with different materials and ergonomic lines to achieve some uniqueness. Just sick and tired with the standard rectangular box, don't know maybe I'm going through a phase.

I'm thinking of your hybrid idea and that certainly will help spice up the form factor. Now I'm busting my head to find a good way around the air intake

 

[CaptSteve]

Here is a great example of creative design. Yes it's still pretty much a rectangle but nonetheless has that certain wow factor and that's exactly what I mean. I'm not talking reinventing the wheel, I'm talking making the wheel desirable and a work of art.

 

[Quigsworth]

Quigs you're absolutely right in that given we have to use a bottle, battery and an RDA that immediately limits the form factor somewhat. What I'm saying is that given these limitations I'm going to play with different materials and ergonomic lines to achieve some uniqueness. Just sick and tired with the standard rectangular box, don't know maybe I'm going through a phase.

I'm thinking of your hybrid idea and that certainly will help spice up the form factor. Now I'm busting my head to find a good way around the air intake

Given the fact that at least my creations are far from air right I never had an issue with sinking an RDA below the air hole line... but then that battery off-gas thing crossed my mind so I at least direct vent with body holes as close to the RDA's air hole's as possible. Given the fact that I squonk till it bleeds does create a liquid issue inside the mod which I know drives some guys nuts... but it never really bothered me... I've got 3 what I call anomalies that are dry as a bone (all hybrids strangly enough) but for the most part bf's leak...It's a fact of life for me

 

[CaptSteve]

I'm certainly gonna try it buddy because I really like the idea of not having a big atty sticking up.

 

[CaptSteve]

As for squonking till it bleeds I hear ya. I don't want to mention how many times I pick up my Reo and oversquonk the daylights out of it because I'm not paying attention and doing something else. Usually happens when I'm in the shop or busy on the net and I don't even realize till hot juice is all over my hands.

 

[OthatGuy]

Thanks for the feedback guys,much appreciated. I thought of makikng a tube mod feeder with a dna and as bottle above it, but anything more than a 18350 gets pretty long...and imo running a dripper atty given its bettor fed, just sucks with a 350.

My 26650 with a battery and full of juice weighs in at 230g. I'm pretty proud of that number. A copper big tobh weighs 100g. So with juice and a battery it weighs about twice as much a an atty..

 

[turbocad6]

othatguy, I recognize you now seeing your aluminum feeder and the bulb went off over my head, oh it's THAT guy

I like yours with the dual holes too but it's because there much larger than the gdeal, if you opened it up to one hole at this point then it would be too big I think.

personally I love the gdeal feeder and I think it's awesome that guys can buy something like that in kit form and build there own mod with it. gdeal has single handedly done more to help out the budding modder here than anyone I've ever seen on ecf, and I really love the whole concept and think it's a spectacular mod, nothing but respect for him and his mod but unfortunately I just never felt it was for me. as much as I don't really like aluminum I just really hate plastic, my mentality there is for the time money and effort personally I can build something more to my liking but again I love the whole concept and design and really think it's an awesome mod, especially for those who couldn't otherwise really build a mod from scratch or modify an existing mod to be dna'd the gdeal mod is simply awesome... several times I've been slightly tempted to pick one up but I just have too many other potential projects and ideas I'd rather do.

as far as the box, originally I really wasn't feeling the whole box format and I did build mods that don't follow the box format but in the end for many designs it just winds up being the most practical form in one way or another. sure you can put twists on it by way of rounded edges here or there or sloped surfaces and stuff, variations of rounded oval profiles etc but in the end most pretty much fall within the whole rectangle form in one way or another

I've got one dual 18650 mod under construction that goes outside of the box but I haven't finished it and probably won't for a bit. right now I have 2 good friends woodvils that I really need to get finished up then it'll be back to my own mods but heres a peek at what that one is shaping up as

 

[RiverNut]

Man, that is sweet! What wood is that?
And do you have some trusted sources of wood you can share?

 

[OthatGuy]

Agreed, it all comes down to how tight you can hold two round cylinders together. I love the gdeal feeders, I like how light it is but at the same time Im not a fan of it's topheavy feeling with even a pretty small /light odin. I share your hate with plastic as well, but I am not a fan of wood either. I really like aluminum, it doesn't patina, I can put a lot of different finishes on it ,it conducts well and it's light and strong...wins all the way around...but I also have access and the ability to do it.


I'm thinking of running screws up from the bottom to hold the top on so you can't see the screw heads .. Gonna be expensive tho I don't think it's worth it..m

 

[turbocad6]

Turbo, I'm assuming that's brass on the front of that mod, is it solid? Does it make it front heavy?

it's made from a solid brass bar but the inside is milled out to accommodate the dna so it's not that heavy, def not heavy enough to make it feel unbalanced or front heavy but enough that I can def feel it's heavier overall than any of my other woodvils. the little step notch and then the further protruding fire button I winded up really liking because it makes it that much easier to hold and not drop, also has a very tactical feel as your never got to be searching around feeling for the button and it's stiff enough that it'll never accidentally fire... that protruding button was intended to be temporary until I had the time to machine a custom flush button but I have come to really like it just the way it is


normally I hate to see any exposed hardware, even the 2 Philips screws in that brass cap on my mod drove me nuts, I really didn't want to see any exposed screws or hardware but in the end I wanted it finished more than I really cared about the screws showing at that point, but really I hate exposed hardware in general but your mod has such an industrial and purpose built look to it that I think the screws look fine on yours really. the hard edges and the screws and the rough machine marks all give it a character it wouldn't have otherwise, it would be an entirely different look if you smoothed and polished out all the machine marks and hid the hardware but I like it just the way it is really

Given the fact that at least my creations are far from air right I never had an issue with sinking an RDA below the air hole line... but then that battery off-gas thing crossed my mind so I at least direct vent with body holes as close to the RDA's air hole's as possible. Given the fact that I squonk till it bleeds does create a liquid issue inside the mod which I know drives some guys nuts... but it never really bothered me... I've got 3 what I call anomalies that are dry as a bone (all hybrids strangly enough) but for the most part bf's leak...It's a fact of life for me

yeah I got to the point that I can't stand any leaks. airhole squonk errors may be inevitable with most atties but I hate it and if an atty is more prone to that then it winds up at the back of the shelf with the ss feeder def can't stand any leaking anywhere other than the airholes though, I think the only way I'd consider putting an atty into the box below airhole level would be if I could secure a way that the air passage is completely sealed to a passage or opening that exits the mod, any liquid inside would def drive me nuts and I probably wouldn't even use the mod

I think that's one reason my favorite mod has a chalice on it, the chalice is awesome feeding and almost never leaks unless you get really nuts on the squonking... now the new chalice is even better and it completely eliminates any chance of leaking at all so yeah it's now not impractical to have a mod that never leaks

 

[OthatGuy]

Turbo, I think that looks dope. Can't wait to see a screen in it.

Leaking is one thing I really don't like . What I'm doing now is setting up my 510's so the pins are threaded into the insulators, making them sealed and adjustable, I'm pretty happy with that and I'm taking it one step, maybe two , further, I'll show ya when pays arrive. I also shelved an idea to hide the hardware but since we've been talking about it it's been bothering me so I'm dusting it off, flipping it over and working on getting it dialed in.

I'm also of the opinion that carrying tools sucks. I've passed on magnets, even tho I have then in some mods, because I'm rough on my toys and I always have the thought of parts scattering during my next drop in my head. I even sank piggyback ' ed magnets to hold lids a but stronger but I still don't trust em. Maybe on a regulated mod but not a mech.

 

[turbocad6]

yeah I don't like carrying tools either but I hate a mod that easily springs apart into pieces even more, I've had a few mods I've wanted to just drive a screw right through it to hold it together I'm hard on mods, I like stuff that screws or goes together tightly and securely and can take a beating, not so much into fragile stuff that parts self eject from just because I happened to accidentally dropkick it across the room

Man, that is sweet! What wood is that?
And do you have some trusted sources of wood you can share?

that's desert ironwood. def one of my favorite woods to work with. it's very hard and dense and polishes up so nice and silky smooth. it's from the same piece that I built my 26650 mod with but the streak of sapwood adds a bit of contrast. I don't have any great sources of wood other than ebay mostly, you can pretty much find anything you might want in woods on ebay.

I used to be like othatguy, I've always been a metal kind of guy, my whole life is working on cars and working with metal. cutting welding and machining, these are the things that turn me on, I used to think woodworking was for pussies, a real man works metal.... but then I slowly started to look at wood a bit more and more, started to maybe appreciate it enough to at least consider maybe trying a woodie.. once I really got to hold and use a wood mod my whole outlook just changed and more and more I got into woods and woodworking. now I love woodwork as well as metalwork and have come to appreciate woods, some are really beautiful and adds a richness and warmth that metal alone just doesn't have. it's an acquired taste for sure and I can def understand not liking it, hell I never did until relatively recently. one good thing is once you have the tools to machine metal, wood becomes almost easy

 

[CaptSteve]

Turbo that is looking real nice, it's that same shape pretty much as that new Dublin from pdib but slightly thicker because you've put in there 3 tubes. That's exactly what I was implying, love the design and the choice to use Kingswood is perfect because it just makes it pop.
Great work buddy

 

[CaptSteve]

Man, that is sweet! What wood is that?
And do you have some trusted sources of wood you can share?

That wood Turbo used is called kingswood

River I buy wood online from two sources, here they are

Exotic Wood Suppliers - Buy Exotic Wood Turning Blanks, Squares, Blocks & Stock - Online Sale

20deano05 on eBay

 

[turbocad6]

on ebay it's called desert ironwood. there's a guy on ebay from arizona that always has some nice pieces of it. I like hardwoods mostly, rosewoods, ebonies, african blackwood and one of my favorites is also snakewood, gloss feel and hardness is awesome with snakewood. I've also been collecting a bunch of wood pieces for future stuff, some nice exotics... have I mentioned that I really like wood now?

 

[CaptSteve]

Turbo sorry I didn't know desert ironwood is so similar to Kingswood,

Here is kingswood

and here is desert ironwood both stunning
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Desert...g-block-knife-scales-pen-blanks-/301412830402

 

[RiverNut]

seriously one of coolest woods I've seen, thanks guys

 

[asdaq]

I have to agree that the brass milled mod is going to be a challenge to keep the weight down on. Not impossible but, pretty much every wall will need to be maximum 1.5mm including fill space between holes. I really like brass, but thinner pieces are critical, simple mod made from brass plumbing fittings is way too wieldy. I've come to find that wood really does not need to be bulky and really is nice to grip and hold.

I know we all have are favorite preferences, but I've become so biased with a cherry and brass mod that I've been vaping it 95% of the time since at least the beginning of August. I carry a spare mod throughout the day, but honestly it only serves as something to clean the congealed juice from the wick every now and again so it is 'ready to go'.


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