BOTTOM FEEDERS= a place for everything modified and/or custom made

[studiovap]

I received my FD V4s today, pretty quick service
I'll be giving the V4 a shot on this one and give my lack of tapping skills a rest. I'm considering sandwiching my pos buss between the pin housing and the insulator.
Steve, or anyone with V4 experience, what's your thoughts on conductivity in that manner? I'll be counting on either the pin making contact with housing and or the spring carrying the load. I could just drill a hole and press fit it on the pin. That's probably best?

Don't do it!, or should i say don't sandwich your pos connection between the delrin insulator and the brass nut of the housing ( the brass nut on the bottom of the housing id press fit and i have had one "unpress itself", the delrin threads are fine and weak, and should not be put under any extra stress), and don't rely on the pin making a good contact with the housing especially once the brass has got a bit gunky.
You can remove the brass housing and pin section , remove the o-ring, and solder (lead free obviously) a small flat tab onto the brass pin, then solder your wire to that, if it's a leaf spring then drill a hole and solder that direct, just make sure you measure first so you do not restrict the travel of the pin, you can then add the o-ring back in and "carefully" screw the housing back in. this is a semi permanent attachment, needing the soldering Iron again to remove, but is saves space and gives a great connection.

 

[rolf]

I received my FD V4s today, pretty quick service
I'm starting a squonker for a friend and co-worker who after seeing the first one I made, decided squonking was for him. I loaned him a RSM Cruiser and my spare Chalice so he could test drive squonking and it took him less than a day to confirm. So I've got to get him another setup asap!
Looks like Tom has some new attys coming so I'm hoping it'll be something my buddy will like 'cause he's not getting my chalice.
So anyway, I'll be giving the V4 a shot on this one and give my lack of tapping skills a rest. I'm considering sandwiching my pos buss between the pin housing and the insulator.
Steve, or anyone with V4 experience, what's your thoughts on conductivity in that manner? I'll be counting on either the pin making contact with housing and or the spring carrying the load. I could just drill a hole and press fit it on the pin. That's probably best?

hi rivernut!
where did you get the chalice ? I cnt believe the prices on that thing !
I got an odin ..a magma ..a lancia .. and some derringers. the flavor of the derringers is disappointing ..harsh ! the lancia best flavor but o ring to tight for the glass and cracked it and to loose for the ss sleeve . also most exept the odin leak out of the air hole .
the chalice don't use an oring to seal the bottom that sure looks nice to me .
never used the fd version 4

 

[CaptSteve]

I received my FD V4s today, pretty quick service
I'm starting a squonker for a friend and co-worker who after seeing the first one I made, decided squonking was for him. I loaned him a RSM Cruiser and my spare Chalice so he could test drive squonking and it took him less than a day to confirm. So I've got to get him another setup asap!
Looks like Tom has some new attys coming so I'm hoping it'll be something my buddy will like 'cause he's not getting my chalice.
So anyway, I'll be giving the V4 a shot on this one and give my lack of tapping skills a rest. I'm considering sandwiching my pos buss between the pin housing and the insulator.
Steve, or anyone with V4 experience, what's your thoughts on conductivity in that manner? I'll be counting on either the pin making contact with housing and or the spring carrying the load. I could just drill a hole and press fit it on the pin. That's probably best?

Mike I tend to agree with studiovap in that the delrin threading is kinda weak. The tapping method is the one I recommend for hassle free connection and reliability to tell you the truth pal. It's so easy to tap that thing by hand anyway so you really have nothing to worry about. Tap it, put a vented screw and a brass nut on the bottom and you have the most reliable and rock solid connection. Your method may work but I don't trust it over time to be frank

 

[Verb]

That is definitely a different design. You are not limited by the conventional box approach. This extends into the x, y, z and one additional directions. Not pocket friendly but belt clip friendly instead.

I figured out it is much easier to squonk with the bottle in the position below. It works well both vertically and horizontally. No solder other than the tubed used for extending the nubby fatdaddy V3 pin.

 

[CaptSteve]

I figured out it is much easier to squonk with the bottle in the position below. It works well both vertically and horizontally. No solder other than the tubed used for extending the nubby fatdaddy V3 pin.

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Verb I'll give you top marks for originality that's for sure. I don't know how convenient this is to vape but it sure is interesting. What I can't figure out is why you place the battery where you do when you have the main body long enough to accommodate the battery anyway and avoid it sticking out like that.
I don't like to criticize so please don't take it as such, I'm just giving you things to think about. I feel there are just too many things sticking out here making the mod ergonomically unfriendly.

 

[opensec]

I figured out it is much easier to squonk with the bottle in the position below. It works well both vertically and horizontally. No solder other than the tubed used for extending the nubby fatdaddy V3 pin.

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Is your tube taking a 90 deg turn? how do you feed the atty, it seems to be quite a zig zaging way for the juice to get on the wick, I always hesitate to curve and twist the feeding tube, how did u manage that?
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[studiovap]

Hi Folks, just wanted to post this quickly, not a very pretty build, but wanted to do some experimenting with mosfet builds, see how tight a space I could fit it all into.
It's a 3034 mosfet.
NO contact cleaning and consistent firing abound it is a great novelty

Mosfet mini 18650 Wood Squonker by Thomas Studios, on Flickr

 

[studiovap]

I received my FD V4s today, pretty quick service
I'm starting a squonker for a friend and co-worker who after seeing the first one I made, decided squonking was for him. I loaned him a RSM Cruiser and my spare Chalice so he could test drive squonking and it took him less than a day to confirm. So I've got to get him another setup asap!
Looks like Tom has some new attys coming so I'm hoping it'll be something my buddy will like 'cause he's not getting my chalice.
So anyway, I'll be giving the V4 a shot on this one and give my lack of tapping skills a rest. I'm considering sandwiching my pos buss between the pin housing and the insulator.
Steve, or anyone with V4 experience, what's your thoughts on conductivity in that manner? I'll be counting on either the pin making contact with housing and or the spring carrying the load. I could just drill a hole and press fit it on the pin. That's probably best?

In the mod I just posted I used the FD V4 pulled it appart and used a V3 BF pin soldered the B copper tab and then soldered onto that, the v3 BF pin is long enough then to use as a juice feed pipe straight onto the hose, and the soldered tab stops the pin from popping up and out through the 510. So nice to have a plain flat top with no useless slots for carto airflow.

 

[Quigsworth]

That's a nice little mod Studio, I like the hardware accents, it's got that medieval look. I'm really digging my FET Grand, I have to say I was a little apprehensive driving/switching that much current through a semi-conductor but I've had no issues with it...and I'm talking prolonged coil burn-offs on .5 duals...I'm glad I got 2 FETS

 

[studiovap]

That's a nice little mod Studio, I like the hardware accents, it's got that medieval look. I'm really digging my FET Grand, I have to say I was a little apprehensive driving/switching that much current through a semi-conductor but I've had no issues with it...and I'm talking prolonged coil burn-offs on .5 duals...I'm glad I got 2 FETS

Thanks quigs, do you mean you are running dual mosfets in the grand? what mosfets are you using?

 

[RiverNut]

hi rivernut!
where did you get the chalice ? I cnt believe the prices on that thing !
I got an odin ..a magma ..a lancia .. and some derringers. the flavor of the derringers is disappointing ..harsh ! the lancia best flavor but o ring to tight for the glass and cracked it and to loose for the ss sleeve . also most exept the odin leak out of the air hole .
the chalice don't use an oring to seal the bottom that sure looks nice to me .
never used the fd version 4

Hi rolf
yes the Chalice is pricey. I bought 2 on the last run and they are now my favorite bf atty. I'm a mouth to lung hitter though and flavor is more important to me than massive clouds. It's extremely well made, the air control is fantastic, and it does NOT leak. Mark has recently made another run and it appears that they will go up for sale this Friday here http://www.vapinart.com/cart/Chalice-V3--P1513.aspx
be quick if you want one though as all previous sales have sold out within minutes.

 

[holycrap]

I received my FD V4s today, pretty quick service
I'm starting a squonker for a friend and co-worker who after seeing the first one I made, decided squonking was for him. I loaned him a RSM Cruiser and my spare Chalice so he could test drive squonking and it took him less than a day to confirm. So I've got to get him another setup asap!
Looks like Tom has some new attys coming so I'm hoping it'll be something my buddy will like 'cause he's not getting my chalice.
So anyway, I'll be giving the V4 a shot on this one and give my lack of tapping skills a rest. I'm considering sandwiching my pos buss between the pin housing and the insulator.
Steve, or anyone with V4 experience, what's your thoughts on conductivity in that manner? I'll be counting on either the pin making contact with housing and or the spring carrying the load. I could just drill a hole and press fit it on the pin. That's probably best?

hey river i used a fat daddy 4 with mine i got the hollow bottom feeder core for it and the kit i put the needle in the core hole and soldered it to the bottom then soldered the pos to the needle as that is what is now making connection to the addy. DO NOT LET THE SPRING HOLD THE LOAD. My buddy did that and the spring collapsed with a .2 ohm build

 

[opensec]

hey river i used a fat daddy 4 with mine i got the hollow bottom feeder core for it and the kit i put the needle in the core hole and soldered it to the bottom then soldered the pos to the needle as that is what is now making connection to the addy. DO NOT LET THE SPRING HOLD THE LOAD. My buddy did that and the spring collapsed with a .2 ohm build

is the kit necessary or can you make it work with just the bf core?

 

[holycrap]

well, my soldering skills are not that great. if you can manage to solder the pos connection to the bottom nipple without accidentally soldering the nipple to the housing you should have enough nipple left to put your hose on. I just used the kit pin for the extra space because it sticks out the end an extra inch or so. If you don't care about it not being spring loaded then it doesn't matter if u accidentally solder it together.

 

[Quigsworth]

Thanks quigs, do you mean you are running dual mosfets in the grand? what mosfets are you using?

Just a single...I got 2 because I thought I was going to pop it either by driving it too hard or by installing it in a Grand...instead of insulating everything I used the body as a return conductor and flipped the batt. to go pos. ground...the circuit looked good on paper but until I pressed the fire button that first time...

add: IRLB3034PBF-ND's

 

[opensec]

thx buddy
will try without, placed an order already, did not realize the kit was needed

 

[studiovap]

Just a single...I got 2 because I thought I was going to pop it either by driving it too hard or by installing it in a Grand...instead of insulating everything I used the body as a return conductor and flipped the batt. to go pos. ground...the circuit looked good on paper but until I pressed the fire button that first time...

add: IRLB3034PBF-ND's

Please show me the wiring diagram or mod itself Quigs.
Pm sent

 

[holycrap]

no problem was just sharing because i didn't want anyone to get a collapsed spring or a leak

 

[CaptSteve]

Hi Folks, just wanted to post this quickly, not a very pretty build, but wanted to do some experimenting with mosfet builds, see how tight a space I could fit it all into.
It's a 3034 mosfet.
NO contact cleaning and consistent firing abound it is a great novelty

Mosfet mini 18650 Wood Squonker by Thomas Studios, on Flickr

Nice little BFer Studio, simple, clean and functional, I love it. I keep meaning to try a mosfet but still haven't come around to even ordering one.

 

[CaptSteve]

I modded today another Derringer and this time I got a clone and frankly I can't tell the difference with the original which cost me $95.

I drilled the center pin with a whopping 2mm bit and the feeder holes to the coils with a 1.5mm bit. I love how easy the squonk is now and I think I'll adopt this setup from now on and do all my atties like this.

I've found the easiest way to drill the center pin is on the lathe as opposed to the milling machine. I removed the pin here, chucked it in the lathe and drilled the pin using a chuck on the end stock with my drill bit.
The side feeder holes were drilled on the milling machine with the pin clamped and I drilled straight through both holes in one go.