So I've been vaping for about a month now on a basic setup (eGo-twist with Kaniger T3S). Recently I bought a K100 to start getting into modding. I figured the mech mods would be the best idea to go with. So I went to fill the atomizer but even after 15-20 drips, the wick looks dry after a hit and will taste absolutely miserable. Now I'm not the most knowledgable about this so if anyone wants to offer any advice please do.
Bought a K100, Need Help
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Which atomizer are you using? The K100 generally comes with a cartomizer, which requires preparation prior to use.
hmm, well do you have an ohm meter, do you know the ohm's of your build? what batteries are you using? How many watts are you passing through your wick? What kind of build are you using? Sounds to me like you are either not wicking enough for the watts supplied, or you have hot spots on your build creating dry hits. Knowledge is required when building and using a mech mod, lack of knowledge and a vape can blow up in your face.
It's right out of the box. He is right, it is a cartomizer. It's the Kamry 18650 (3.7v) right now with the 510 cartomizer that it comes with. The guy at the shop said that this was the best choice to go for with a starting mod. Any advice on how to get the most out of this? I'm a total noob.
This site has some good info including a you tube video. Pay particular attention to the use of a kick.
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...Just for clarity, that facepalm is for the guy at the store, not you...
If you're going to use a mech mod, it's very important to do your homework. There's a good reason ECF veterans do not normally recommend mechanicals to new vapers. Read the rechargeable batteries page, Baditude's blogs, read up on mechanical mod safety, watch some videos on mechanical maintenance, own a multimeter and use it to regularly test your batteries, atomizers, and mod. Remember, with a mech mod, you're the safety feature. If you're going to do it, do it carefully.
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The guy needs help on properly filling his cartomizer with juice, and you guys are recommending different mods to get or telling him how he needs to set up an RBA and telling him about mechanical mods and batteries. He never asked about those. Do you even read what the OP asks?
wtbcody - the most important thing to learn about cartomizers is to properly fill them the first time. I have a strong hunch that 15 - 20 drops was not nearly enough juice. It tastes miserable because you are attempting to vape a essentially dry cartomizer. Unfortunately, that carto is probably ruined now. Once a carto's filler is burnt, you'll never get that taste out of it. Start over with a new one.
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Above is a cut away of a cartomizer. (Disregard the red arrow outside the carto)
Cartomizers or carto's are steel tubes filled with polyfiber that looks like a cigarette filter. A heating coil within this material heats e-liquid into vapor. A small air tube in the center of the filler runs its entire length which directs vapor into a drip tip placed on the end. The drip tip is just the name vapors use for a mouth piece.
Single coil cartomizers have one heating element, dual coil cartomizers have two. Heating coils have a ohm or resistance rating, which determines the amount of energy used to heat e-liquid and turn it into vapor. A drawback to using a cartomizer is being unable to see your juice level. Cartomizers can be used alone, or be used in a cartotank which allows larger quantities of juice. Since these tanks are often clear, you can see the juice level in them.
Before you add liquid to the carto, use this tip. Plug the center air hole with a toothpic. You don't want any e-liquid getting in that hole. When the carto's filler looks wet, shake it down like a thermometer. Then add more e-liquid. Shake it down again. Repeat this drip-n-flip technique until the filler will absolutely hold no more liquid. It should look like a slushy drink when ready.
You'll need to add additional liquid after a period of time. It's tough to know when, so top it off frequently at first so that you don't burn the filler again. After vaping a few drags, the top of the carto will always look dry - that's normal. You should be able to repeatedly refill the carto multiple times. Once it gets a stiff pull when you vape, it's time to replace it.
wtbcody - the most important thing to learn about cartomizers is to properly fill them the first time. I have a strong hunch that 15 - 20 drops was not nearly enough juice. It tastes miserable because you are attempting to vape a essentially dry cartomizer. Unfortunately, that carto is probably ruined now. Once a carto's filler is burnt, you'll never get that taste out of it. Start over with a new one.
click to enlargeAbove is a cut away of a cartomizer. (Disregard the red arrow outside the carto)
Cartomizers or carto's are steel tubes filled with polyfiber that looks like a cigarette filter. A heating coil within this material heats e-liquid into vapor. A small air tube in the center of the filler runs its entire length which directs vapor into a drip tip placed on the end. The drip tip is just the name vapors use for a mouth piece.
Single coil cartomizers have one heating element, dual coil cartomizers have two. Heating coils have a ohm or resistance rating, which determines the amount of energy used to heat e-liquid and turn it into vapor. A drawback to using a cartomizer is being unable to see your juice level. Cartomizers can be used alone, or be used in a cartotank which allows larger quantities of juice. Since these tanks are often clear, you can see the juice level in them.
Before you add liquid to the carto, use this tip. Plug the center air hole with a toothpic. You don't want any e-liquid getting in that hole. When the carto's filler looks wet, shake it down like a thermometer. Then add more e-liquid. Shake it down again. Repeat this drip-n-flip technique until the filler will absolutely hold no more liquid. It should look like a slushy drink when ready.
You'll need to add additional liquid after a period of time. It's tough to know when, so top it off frequently at first so that you don't burn the filler again. After vaping a few drags, the top of the carto will always look dry - that's normal. You should be able to repeatedly refill the carto multiple times. Once it gets a stiff pull when you vape, it's time to replace it.
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Some of Dice's questions are very appropriate....
You're using a cartomizer. Do you know the resistance (ohms) of the cartomizer? Have you tested it with an ohm meter or multimeter?
You're using an 18650 battery. What kind? Is it an IMR? Protected? Something else? Did you test the voltage off the charger with a meter? What kind of charger do you have?
Related: Do you have a kick to regulate wattage with? If not, have you calculated the wattage using the battery's voltage and coil's resistance? Are you using any kind of fuse?
Me and the out of the box carto did not work. I had a full carto and endless dry hits. I ended up using a Protank 2, but that's just me.
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The problem here is Not the K100, it's the fact that you don't understand how to use the cartomizer that came with it.
I don't believe you filled it enough, or let it soak in before trying to vape it. You may have burnt the poly fill already if you can't get the burnt taste out.
You can use almost anything you want on the K100. T3S probably won't fit, but the Evod does. Any 510 connection device should work, and for those ego connection devices, you could always use an ego/510 adapter in order to use the rest.
I currently have an MT3 with and ego/510 adapter on mine. Switch back and forth with an MT3S and an Evod, as well as an X8 tank and my Smok UDTC... I rarely touch my RBAs
The Evod is ego threaded, so it won't work without a 510-ego adaptor.
Vision Vivi Nova, Kanger Protank, and Innokin iClear clearomizers all have a 510 connector which will work on your mod without an adaptor. These do not use cartomizers, but have string wicks going to the coil heads, which are replaceable when they burn out. These are easy to fill and use.
Proper Terminology: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?
Vision Vivi Nova
Innokin iClear 30 clearomizer
Kanger Protank
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The K100 has ego threading.. The well is too small in diameter for most ego items though...
My bad.
LOL No biggy, most people can't see in the well (or want to use and ego device on it..) anyway
wtbcody, the K100 is a great simple mod and as stated above will work with just about anything on top. Forget about cartomizers unless you're just sampling flavors, they are too much work, constantly topping them off. Tanks are the best. The K100 with an iClear 30 with a 2.1 low resistance coil is my favorite setup for most juices. I also use it with a Pro Tank and it rocks. Don't lose hope, keep experimenting.
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I didn't see people recommending a different mod. Is the K100 not mechanical? I thought it was?
Wow, thanks a lot everyone. The responses definitely taught me a lot. I guess I should have done a bit more research other than relying on what others have said. I tried properly filling and prepping the carto but the taste is off so I'm betting money on the fact it's burnt. Live and learn. I'll pick up an evod from one of my friends to hold me over till I can get a protank or something else that'll fit. Till then ill be doing a lot more research and get an ohm meter to make sure everything is running smoothly. Thanks everyone.
My point was it was obvious he was having a problem with his cartomizer, and the first few responses had nothing to do with the cartomizer.
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