Bought Green Smoke...did I get suckered into the hype?

[nolighterneeded]

This is starting to get way over my level of understanding lol. Reading every post is making smoke come out of my ears...that can't be good for my kids Back to the topic at hand...what's going to give me the most bang for the buck in terms of getting a whole new "system". I like gadgets...gizmos...and whatchamacallits...so, I'm not afraid of something like the Apollo (I just don't understand it all yet). I am one of those people that once I get into something...I go headfirst and research the hell out of it until I feel I have a grasp of the whole concept. Being a newbie, I just haven't invested the time yet. A little more about what I'm finding by vaping my GS is the TH. I bought "Full 1.8% nic carts" which I actually wish it was a little bit lighter. I tried my friends eGo t with 7leaf flavor @ 18mg nic and almost fell on the floor I think I'm drawn more to flavor and vapor production over TH. I don't know if this will make a difference in your recommendations however, I thought I would throw that out there.

Here's my priority list in order of importance as of now.

1. Flavor (I find that's really important to me at this point)
2. Vapor production (close tie for 1st as I feel it's very important)
3. Ease of changing flavors (I don't think I'll be dripping much though...don't know for sure)
4. Battery life (It hasn't been an issue yet with my GS so that's why it's #4...maybe I just don't vape that much yet either)
5. Light TH (I know...some of you are probably going WHAT?!?! but...I just can't handle too much of it)
4. Size (I'm coming around to the fact that it really doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would after trying my friends eGo t. I do like the convenience of the size of my GS though but, it's no longer a major deciding factor.)
5. Options (I don't have to have the latest and greatest...just something that works is good enough for me)

I hope this clarifies some grey areas I may have presented in my quest to find what's best for me. I can't thank you all enough for all the help and support everyone is sending.

Thankful,
nolighterneeded

 

[sailorman]

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Here's my priority list in order of importance as of now.

First off, I apologize for my participation in the threadjacking that went on here.
So, I'm going to try to answer these questions as clearly as I can at 3:52 AM.

Some of these priorities are influenced by the device, some by the juice, some by the particular juice delivery system and some by a combination of any of these.

1. Flavor (I find that's really important to me at this point)

Mostly a function of the juice and the juice delivery device, cartomizer or atomizer or clearomizer.
The particular e-cig just has to be matched properly with the carto/atty/clearo.
The right resistance has to be chosen for the battery's voltage. Too low resistance and you lose flavor or get a burnt taste. To high a resistance and you get weak vapor. A variable voltage allows you to compensate by changing the voltage. Some juice tastes better at a higher heat (tobacco) and some juice is better at a lower heat (fruits)

2. Vapor production (close tie for 1st as I feel it's very important)

Again, the juice is important. Higher VG% gives more vapor, but mutes the flavor a little. The carto/atty/clearo also is important because it is responsible for delivering the right amount of juice to the coil.

3. Ease of changing flavors (I don't think I'll be dripping much though...don't know for sure)

This is almost entirely the function of the cartomizer or clearomizer. Generally clearomizers are the easiest to fill. With cartomizers, you must devote a cartomizer to one particular flavor. If you vape 3 flavors throught the day, you could have 3 filled cartomizers with you, or you could have 3 filled clearomizers, or you could have one clearomizer and 3 bottles of juice. Other than that, you just screw them in. No PV is any easier than any other.

4. Battery life (It hasn't been an issue yet with my GS so that's why it's #4...maybe I just don't vape that much yet either)

This one is strictly a matter of battery capacity. You can expect, as a rule of thumb, about 1 hour per 100mah of battery capacity. A variable voltage PV will drain the battery a little faster, since you will likely be vaping at a higher voltage than you would on a fixed voltage PV.

5. Light TH (I know...some of you are probably going WHAT?!?! but...I just can't handle too much of it)

For minimum throat hit, use higher VG and lower nicotine juice. Also, use lower voltages and/or higher resistance carto/atty/clearo. It is a combination of nicotine, VG and the heat of the coil that affects your perceived throat hit. Some clearomizers are also known for low throat hit, although that is considered a flaw.

4. Size (I'm coming around to the fact that it really doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would after trying my friends eGo t. I do like the convenience of the size of my GS though but, it's no longer a major deciding factor.)

Good move. Many of your other priorities will be easier to meet without the restrictions imposed by a small battery. These include battery life, options and vapor production.

5. Options (I don't have to have the latest and greatest...just something that works is good enough for me)

I hope this clarifies some grey areas I may have presented in my quest to find what's best for me. I can't thank you all enough for all the help and support everyone is sending.

You will have the maximum number of options with a 510 type device. 510 threading is the standard of the industry now for all but the small mini-cig type e-cigs. Most of your options will come in the form of different compatible cartomizers, clearomizers, tanks, etc. In concert with the juice you choose, all of these juice delivery devices will be what determines flavor, throat hit and vapor production. In the end, a battery is just a way to power your juice delivery system.

So, considering all that, I would suggest a mid-sized 510 battery with a good voltage output, such as the kGo. The kGo will take a variety of the juice delivery devices that will give you the best vapor, and flavor and it is powerful enough to give you good vapor.
Avoid tank systems like your friends ego. Tank systems are famous for muting flavors. If you want good vapor with low TH, you're going to want higher VG content. VG mutes the flavor some already. Add the muting effect of the tank and your flavor goes downhill rapidly.

For a cartomizer, which will give you the ability to rapidly change flavors, if you have them already loaded with juice, cartomizers like the Boge 2ohm will work well. For better flavor, 2.1-2.4ohm Fluxomizers can't be beat.

So, a kGo kit with some Boge 2ohm cartomizers, 2.1-2.4ohm Fluxomizers and perhaps an eGo Vision Clearomizer will give you the best combinations of flavor, vapor production and convenience in a simple, reliable and economical package with excellent battery life. The juice you use will be a critical factor though. Don't underestimate it. Make sure you have a 2ohm atomizer to test juices before you devote a cartomizer to a juice you may not like. Hoosierecigsupply.com has a good kGo starter kit.

As an alternative, you may consider a variable voltage PV for a few dollars more. This allows you to adjust your voltage to produce optimum vapor and flavor tailored to the juice you have. Keep in mind that you will want something that comes with 2 batteries so that you can charge one while you use the other. This is why kGo and other kits come with 2 batteries. You can get an eGo vairable voltage, called a Twist, but you will need two of them. For the price of two Twists, you can get a variable voltage PV that takes separate batteries and that you won't have to throw away when the battery wears out. If this interest you, a very good newbie variable voltage is the Lavatube or the Lavatube mini. The mini especially is fairly compact and extrememely easy to use for beginners. It costs about $50 with free shipping and year warranty. There is a coupon code for 30% off. It is available at apolloecigs.com under the name Vtube.

Thankful,
nolighterneeded

Hope this helped some.

 

[DedTV]

what's going to give me the most bang for the buck in terms of getting a whole new "system". I like gadgets...gizmos...and whatchamacallits.

In that case (and since you said you're not too worried about size now), I'd (like sailorman) suggest something like a Lava Tube. It's versatile, Variable Voltage and fairly cheap which makes a great learning device for a gadget lover. Alternately you could also try the Ego Twist but those only go up to 4.8 volts which limits the ability to tinker a bit. But it's quite a bit smaller so it just depends on how much size isn't a factor compared to how much versatility you want.

And research won't do a whole lot as things are so subjective. You really have to dig in, try things and figure out what you like before you can put any of the vast amount of info to any practical use. No amount of research is going to tell the difference between how a 2.5 Ohm carto at 4.5 volts and a 3.5 Ohm Atty at 6v is going to feel to you. You just have to try them and see what you like most. Which is why I'd suggest the LT over the Twist as that extra 1.2v gives you a bit more room to experiment
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I'd also suggest getting verified and making use of the classified sections as much as possible. Buying the stuff other people didn't like and selling off the stuff you don't like will help keep your wallet a little happier during the initial learning curve

And sailorman answered everything else. Ditto to what he said

 

[fbdugan]

Yes and no. Yes you paid 3x what you could get at various suppliers [check vendors here on ECF] No, because you discovered the world of vaping and ECF! It's not bad product--just over-priced.

 

[MyKosmo]

If you DO decide to try the lava tube method may I suggest the Apollo eCigs VTube. It's their version of the lavatube and right not they are selling them at 30% off. That is a major discount. My brother has the Stainless Steel version, which he thinks is too heavy, and the Red one, which is he nuts about. He's a major vaper, so he uses several different things. After all his experience is trying different devices he always has their TGo with him, a Red one at that. Loves it, totally.

30% off the Apollo Vtube is a major savings

 

[tally618]

I don't think you got suckered in at all. Green Smoke is a little more costly than other ecigs, but I started there in 2009 and still use my Green Smoke today. The cartomizers can be cleaned, dried, and refilled countless times and hold up better than any others I have tried. It's a matter of personal preference, really. I like the size and weight of it, and the simplicity can't be beat. Once a week I clean, dry, and refill my cartomizers and I'm good for the week.

 

[Epeelife]

I'll second that, I started with my green smoke in all 09 also and thought it was the cats meow. flavor and vapor production were right on. that's the company that basically got me off of the real thing and I will be for ever grateful for that product. I have only recently within the last six months converted to a proveri and silver bullet with the hh 357's