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JonnyVapΣ

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Note: tone does not translate well in text unless you're a professional writer. I am not a professional writer. The following is not posted to target or defend. It's just info.

I've probably built about a half dozen box mods from MadVapes parts....maybe more. Some the pre drilled with inclusive parts "kits" and the rest with clean parts. Every single one worked and is still working...wherever they currently are. (This post is taking a stupid long time for me to bang out because I'm vaping my sweet 3xAA box mod right now...and vaping and vaping....refilling the cart....and vaping....wait....one more hit) Did they all work right after assembly? Hell no. Did it take rocket surgery to get them all to work great? No. These are cheap-... parts banged out of a factory in China. If the sum of parts in this assembled "kit" cost $39 then there'd be something to complain about. It's 8 bucks (one pack of corner gas station smokes here in NY). The best plan; If you're going to build 4 mods, order 5 or 6. That's what I did. I considered luck to be on my side that I was able to build working mods from all the parts I ordered and wouldn't be too upset if I didn't. If it makes anyone feel better you can go to Radio Shack and spend about double on everything for all the same stuff. Like much of the cheap products sold throughout the planet these days these battery boxes and switches are probably pumped out of one factory in China...no matter who's name is on the label.

A few quick Box Mod tips;
Go to Home Depot (or similar...hey, even Radio Shack) and get some heavier wire, around 20ga should do. I work on cars and have a ton of relay wire (roughly 18ga) piled in the shop, this is what I use, space permitting. Eliminating resistance from your wiring (cheap thin stuff pre-attatched to the boxes) makes your batteries last longer and sends more juice to your vaporizer. (Electronics 101)

Have the right tools handy.
I could build a mod using my 200 watt soldering gun. Better to use something 30 watts or smaller with a nice clean tip.
X-Acto knife or similar. If you're not trimming anything you're not doing it right.
Bench grinder or cut-off wheels on a Dremel or similar tool. Grinding down the horn switch nut on two opposing sides allows it to fit within a battery space without having to mess with trimming brittle plastic (AA box).
Don't be afraid to tweak things. These are battery boxes designed to fit standard spec batteries, i.e. "AA"/UM-3 - "AAA"/UM-4 etc. alkaline/lithium-iron sulphide cells or NiMH or NiCd. They haven't changed the design since the 70's. They're not designed for protected Lithium Ion cells. The dimensions are not the same. Simply taking the positive battery contact and giving it a slight bend towards the battery (or building up a small bit of solder) will solve the simple connection issue without having to further modify the plastic box.
There's a ton more tips n tricks out there for these things but I need to go pass the hell out.
G'nite.
And remember, if you're not having fun building these, don't bother.
 
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JonnyVapΣ;2050924 said:
And remember, if you're not having fun building these, don't bother.

And there you have it... If it isn't fun... don't do it.

I would never expect 8 or 9 bucks worth of pre-drilled parts to be perfect. I wouldn't expect lexus build quality out of a Chinese battery box, nor would I expect the holes to be well-finished.

If by some miracle of fate you managed to get a run of them that was perfect, then THAT is the exception to the rule. I wouldn't get angry about it if they were not. Get out your tools and fix 'em up... that's what modders do! Get creative... if you can't, I personally wouldn't complain about it in public.

The hoog-meister does us all a GREAT service by pulling together all of these parts. There isn't another site on the planet that has everything you need in one easy to shop place. I can imagine it is a whole heck of a lot of work managing the inventory of these tiny parts, and rather than screaming that his quality control is lacking, it would probably be better to thank him for the hard work he is doing. Nobody ever got rich selling 50 cent parts, but he's got them, and I for one am thankful for it.

If a person doesn't like the parts from this supplier, there are others out there... Radio Shack has a nice assortment of battery boxes that have the same issues... you could try those instead... and if you don't like the quality of the holes in the boxes, drill your own. If you end up with a messed up hole, you can toss the box and start over... just like you're expecting hoogie to do... all while he makes precious little profit...

Hoog... you da man... thanks for all you do...

Epecially the discount codes... (hint hint)
 
The one thing I think that can be said people like the kitsThese things fly out of stock. I have got my share and don't have a complaint one. I want to see the catagory expanded. how about 5 volt 3XAA mod boxes. Pre soldered regulator boards on invatory waiting list or pre soldered connectors. This company has alwasy done right by me. I get better service from MadVapes then I do from local stores. As someone else said this kit it awesome for the small price we pay for it. I have put togather 18 or more of these to date and will be ordering a few more tonight if i get a chance before all are gone.
 

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Darn, just ordered a box mod kit today :( Hope it's not funky - I ordered solely for the snap and go aspect of it. Minimal soldering, minimal glue. Assuming all the pieces would be sound. Not sure if I'm agreeing with "just buy a new one" or "Expect the kit to vary, like a model kit". I shall soon see.

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The fix with the boxes in question is filling the positive battery cup with solder. The differences in boxes has gotten a bit blown out of proportion a bit and the modifications are typically quite simple.

I build boxes druing my free time all week long and they really are so simple to build despite variations in the boxes :)

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Ya know...

If you were selling 20 dollar bills for 57 cents each there would still be people complaining that theirs was wrinkled... GET A LIFE PEOPLE! The box mod is a cheap solution. It is sold as a cheap solution. It is composed of cheap parts. It is only $8.00. Did anyone ever tell you you get what you pay for in life?

So far I have received from MadVapes far more than what I have paid.
 

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Jeez, I'm sorry I pointed out my disappointment in these boxes not being up to par with the prior kits. Making fun of me and saying its just simple fixes just makes me wonder why even bother buying predrilled? Oh yeah, because the first ones were ream, solder, glue, go. They were relatively simple with no need to re-engineer parts as well as not adding more points of failure in the mod.
 

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It's all part of "Modding". We're taking a battery box, meant to be used with 'standard' batteries to power little electronics projects (think blinky lights or a radio kit), and modifying the box itself to install an electronic cigarette into it with batteries beyond it's original design. This is beyond the intended purpose of the box itself and there is no manufacturing precision factored into it beyond it's purpose of holding standard batteries. If anyone is looking for consistence in a box there are "project boxes" available which are completely blank on the inside. With these you can install every component yourself. This is the correct path towards building a consistent device since a box is a box is a box in this case. Yes, it's more work. But that's the trade-off.

Again....not bashing anyone. Just laying down the facts. Education is completely voluntary.
 

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JonnyVape...there should be some consistency as most plastics such as these are jet molded, right? Can't see why these things would be that far from the original mold.

Speaking of which, I got my box mod kit yesterday from MadVapes ($8)...AAAAAWWWE YEEEEAAAAA!! Not sure when I'm going to slam it together :p

Shoot, I've yet to even try vaping LOL. My RoughStack comes today according to tracking, so tonight I should be inhaling my first yummy cloud of juice, blueberry style :p

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Because they are completely different boxes.

If you're talking about getting 2 different types of 2AA boxes with switch keep in mind that MadVapes does carry 2 different 2AA switched boxes. Make sure you're ordering the correct ones. Read the descriptions carefully.
 

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JonnyVape...there should be some consistency as most plastics such as these are jet molded, right? Can't see why these things would be that far from the original mold.

Reasonable thinking. I was a machinist/engineer at a machine shop that did work for Delphi/GM, Rolls Royce Aerospace, IBM among others back in the day. Nothing is absolute. Even precision manufacturing has its duds. Ever throw out a titanium turbine compression ring? Now that's an expensive oops to complain about. But in the case of these battery boxes they're still hand assembled with someone wielding an iron to weld that little plastic switch retainer. Try to find two that are exactly alike...or even welded correctly (fortunately for us modders, many are not...LOL). But for many of us the challenge (no matter how minor) of overcoming defects adds to the fun of modding.
 

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I can't imagine I've gotten anything of supreme quality on my last kit order which was last week or so. They went together without a hitch. I'm going to be putting another order for more as soon as Hoog gets more 14500's in stock (that order was supposed to go out yesterday but the batteries sold out on me). I'll update then.
 
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