Boycott PayPal

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Tankgirl

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This is it. If you think my saying that what PayPal, the FDA, the airlines, the tobacco companies, and more to be named later, are doing to us is evil is over the top, then I believe you have not been paying attention.

For decades no one has protected us from the death and disability by the millions all over the world that is the direct fault of the tobacco industries and the collusion of them with government. It was a conspiracy of silence to say the least, accessory to murder to say to most.

Now the roaches are crawling out of their dark corners to try to take advantage of a fledgling movement and a baby industry of regular people going over to the only sane way of ingesting nicotine there is. Many, many are finally able to give up an addiction to cigarettes that makes ...... addiction child's play.

Now PayPal has cut the vaping community from their services, most likely under pressure from powerful forces. No one can buy or sell e cigarettes, or more accurately, personal vaporizers through PP. I'm sure the airlines' bans on vaping are also the result of terror tactics.

We are being lied to, manipulated, and just plain old bullied by the powers that be. It is not happening quietly or gently, but the thugs are openly putting the boots to us and their suppression tactics will escalate in brutality until vaping in freedom will seem a distant dream. I am a woman who immigrated to the US when I was 15, and I have been sensitized by my former culture and my family to the danger signs of freedom's being gradually eroded, and to the encroaching thud of the dictators' troops. The FDA is illegally confiscating vaping products from overseas, and it's not long that when even our institutions openly flout our own laws, that we are in deep trouble.

We let them take one thing after another away from us and we do nothing.
I can, though, cancel my PP, let them know precisely why they have lost a good customer, contact the BBB, and spread the word to anyone I can I will disparage them to all of my contacts and band together with like-minded people to take back and to preserve not just some of our freedoms, but all of them. It's not enough to have some freedom, you are either free or you are not.

So, I am giving up PayPal in solidarity with all you vendors and suppliers out there, and for my sake, too. Money is the reason they are coming after us vapers and money is the only weapon we have against them because money is all they understand.

Let's talk to see if there is enough will out there to begin to stop this while there is time, because once vaping is under the government's control it will be to late. And that is a fact.
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Annette aka Tankgirl


 
Agreed, and any site that uses them. I carted up $300 worth of stuff at Totally Wicked's site and then PayPal refused to commit the sale - and worked fine in another tab as I bought a used bike on eBay.

I feel a little bad for TW, as I ended up getting my setup and supplies from a half-dozen other vendors, but there wasn't any way that I was going to make a $300 order over the phone.
 

Tankgirl

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Yeah, I'm less shocked than I should be now that I've calmed down a bit. I am dedicated to helping all vapers fight this witch hunt any way I can. It's ....ing outrageous, all of it. The bans and regulations and thefts, all of it. I want to start hoarding all e supplies I can before it's too late, and I'm afraid it will be. There is just no way those greedy hypocrites will keep their damn mitts off the lucrative pv community. All of that creativity and work will go down the drain and unless more people really fight we will be saying good bye to an uncomplicated, purely market-driven product. The doctors, the pharmas, the insurance, and the tobacco industries, in cahoots with the government, will be rooting in the profits and personal vapors will be regulated into the ground and too expensive without a prescription or something.
I'm so ....ing sick of every basic right in this country becoming something to fight about. One doesn't know what to do first, and fighting for the right to vape unmolested by big business and the government might not seem like the most important issue in light of the lack of health care in the US, or the systematic economic rape of the country. But for me personally this is important. I think that everyone can relate to my outrage that the very people who didn't give a damn about the tobacco companies lying and manipulating us so that millions of people ended up hopelessly addicted to their poison are now bull....ting us about the "dangers" of vaping and want to pretend to shut us down for our own good. Hypocrisy doesn't begin to describe their actions, and I am so willing to do whatever I can to put these clowns in their place. I hope someone out there can advise me how to most effectively help work on this and would appreciate any advice. TG:vapor:
 

AngusATAT

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They have moved my post so I don't know if I am supposed to reply on this location anymore. Just to let you know.

Why wouldn't you be able to reply to it? :confused:

And I find it ungracious that there's no mention as to where it was moved to. JMHO

And I find it kinda silly to have posted that, considering the OP (and you) have obviously found it... and a redirect to this thread was placed in the forum it was posted in previously. Also seems kinda silly to post where it was moved to after it had been moved... considering it's already there.

Oh, I forgot... forum staff are evil, and love to do things to irritate people for spits and giggles. :rolleyes:
 

Caddyman

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you are exactly right angus, you evil man you :p

um, boycotting paypal.

while a good idea in theory it wont work for obvious reasons. ecigs sales are .0001% of their business if we are lucky.

paypal has a right to refuse anything, they are their own business and make their own rules.

personally i like paypal, actually i love paypal, we are homies, most of my paypal money come from making websites though, and i have a paypal debit card which is awesome for when my wife spends all our real money i can just use it to pay for groceries.

i think a FAR FAR FAR better approach to any campaigning idea when it comes to paypal and ecigs is for us to email paypal enmasse and inundate them with emails full of information on electronic cigarettes and why they should be allowed. this would be a far better approach IMHO. boycotting will not make a bit of difference to them, but 1000's of emails with good info just might.

boycott = never using paypal with ecigs ever
enlightenment = possibly allowing ecigs on paypal, that opens a LOT of doors for smaller vendors

if you are a vendor now, i wouldn't even TRY to use paypal, you are playing with fire, just waiting to get caught, and that is NO FUN, pony up and get yourself a merchant account at the various 100's of companies that offer these services to ecig vendors.
 

Elendil

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you are exactly right angus, you evil man you :p

um, boycotting paypal.

while a good idea in theory it wont work for obvious reasons. ecigs sales are .0001% of their business if we are lucky.

paypal has a right to refuse anything, they are their own business and make their own rules.

personally i like paypal, actually i love paypal, we are homies, most of my paypal money come from making websites though, and i have a paypal debit card which is awesome for when my wife spends all our real money i can just use it to pay for groceries.

i think a FAR FAR FAR better approach to any campaigning idea when it comes to paypal and ecigs is for us to email paypal enmasse and inundate them with emails full of information on electronic cigarettes and why they should be allowed. this would be a far better approach IMHO. boycotting will not make a bit of difference to them, but 1000's of emails with good info just might.

boycott = never using paypal with ecigs ever
enlightenment = possibly allowing ecigs on paypal, that opens a LOT of doors for smaller vendors

if you are a vendor now, i wouldn't even TRY to use paypal, you are playing with fire, just waiting to get caught, and that is NO FUN, pony up and get yourself a merchant account at the various 100's of companies that offer these services to ecig vendors.

Have to agree 100%. I understand the frustration from a vendor perspective, but as a buyer I love paypal and have been using them happily for 13 years or so..............

Also, the paypal debit card is great!
 

Zal42

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um, boycotting paypal.

while a good idea in theory it wont work for obvious reasons. ecigs sales are .0001% of their business if we are lucky.

Well, "boycott" is the wrong word. I have had many beefs with PayPal, beginning roughly at the time eBay bought them. I don't boycott them, really, at least not in the sense of trying to change their behavior. Rather, I simply choose not to do business with them, much as I choose not to do business with many other entities whose behavior I disagree with.
 
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