Breakthrough Bleeding: change in estrogen levels?

[azzaman]

My naturopath said that quitting creates cellular stress from the chemical withdrawal independent of nicotine.

Thats nice, but the nicotine is what creates the cellular stress. So it would be dependent on nicotine not the other way round.

*** I probably didn't write this very clearly. Quitting nicotine will cause your body stress, that is what withdrawal is.

 

[azzaman]

The other thing I would consider is giving your body a couple of days break for the supps. You have been taking them very regularly for quite a while. Some vitamins and minerals give a toxic effect to the body if you use too much over a period of time. Allowing your body to flush them out and returning to your supps may be a good idea (just don't tell the natro that).

 

[kumquat]

Firstly, please buy some nicotine juice from a manufacturer on the forum for a dose that you would like Mixing stuff in a non scientific way is only going to make vaping worse for you.

FQ is extremely complicated, and the long term CNS effects and the like aren't well documented. You should still keep a daily diary and document your endo attacks. You may well of had the condition your whole life and it is presenting itself now.

The surgery option allows the visual examination of how bad the problem is. Your previous gyno gave good advice for the surgery but obviously you shouldn't use her anymore due to the FQ.

Iodine deficient? I doubt it. Your supps are loaded with micro-nutrients. Do not go off the pill, and see your GP/family doc for advise on other pill options. Ginger gave similar advice to this.

The diary might help with determining what the FQ and endo symptoms are or there triggers.

The dosages I have seem to be working for me. And I like the flavors and that the stuff is clean and American made.

The effects are fairly well documented, but the actual way the fq's destroy cells is not known and there's been little no research on reversal.

Oh, no, absolutely not, my onset was very clear and sudden. Prior to this, I worked doing large outdoor painting, sculpture and distressing. I had absolutely no symptoms of FQ Toxicity before being floxed in April. There are some people who will have spontaneous tendon ruptures months after taking the FQ or have symptoms which their doctors deny are adverse reactions to FQs and which they don't figure out are related to FQs for months or years, if at all. But it was obvious what the cause of my problems was and when they began.

Yeah, she did intra-uteral (-?) sonograms and so was able to see some of the problems, specifically the cysts. But she believes there is scar tissue binding my bowel to my left ovary. The point of the birth control is to both reduce the cysts, which from my series of ultrasounds, it appears to be doing and to "dry up" the binding tissue so that it will fall away. But, yes, I have no intention of ever speaking to her again. She's been horrible.

I don't have a GP. From the research I've done, Iodine Deficiency seems to legitimately affect ovarian cysts and endometriosis and the supplementation thereof has proven to help many other women with this condition. However, for obvious reasons, I'm gunshy to risk any more cysts exploding because I would have rather been dead that have gone through the pain caused by the last time that happened. I was laid up for over six months with continuing pain and fluid in my abdomen as a result.

 

[kumquat]

Thats nice, but the nicotine is what creates the cellular stress. So it would be dependent on nicotine not the other way round.

*** I probably didn't write this very clearly. Quitting nicotine will cause your body stress, that is what withdrawal is.

There are hundreds of other chemicals besides nicotine in commercial tobacco products.

 

[kumquat]

The other thing I would consider is giving your body a couple of days break for the supps. You have been taking them very regularly for quite a while. Some vitamins and minerals give a toxic effect to the body if you use too much over a period of time. Allowing your body to flush them out and returning to your supps may be a good idea (just don't tell the natro that).

Oh, I don't take them every day. Not entirely because of overwhelming my system, but because it feels like a prison.

 

[azzaman]

There are hundreds of other chemicals besides nicotine in commercial tobacco products.

Yes and they cause cancer, this is well documented. A testimony to the e cig is the bulk of people use it to quit smoking cigarettes successfully. Its active ingredient is only nicotine. I am not sold of this WTA stuff. It is unnecessary and the majority of people who need it probably have not broken their psychological addiction to cigarettes. I've watched and read reviews of people saying it works, or they feel a little different. Its probably the placebo effect in action.

 

[azzaman]

Well you don't know if your are iodine deficient or not, unless you get the test for it. Iodine is in almost everything. They put it into foods in the western world to stop birth defects. It usually occurs in poorer countries.

A qualified doctor is going to know far more about this than myself. All the information I have provided is to offer something you may not thought of, as you posted it as questions in the health section I hope you feel better soon.

 

[kumquat]

Oh, I totally disagree. I'm one of the people who can't quit with just nicotine and is dependent upon the MAOIs in tobacco as anti-depressants. I take passionflower now and because I'm on painkillers at the moment for the FQ stuff, I'm having a much easier go of quitting than I did when it was just my regular body trying to switch over. The juices I use, also, have trace amounts of actual tobacco in them. I've also used CigRx.

 

[kumquat]

Well you don't know if your are iodine deficient or not, unless you get the test for it. Iodine is in almost everything. They put it into foods in the western world to stop birth defects. It usually occurs in poorer countries.

A qualified doctor is going to know far more about this than myself. All the information I have provided is to offer something you may not thought of, as you posted it as questions in the health section I hope you feel better soon.

Yeah, we'll see. There are a lot of things we're deficient of and theoretically shouldn't be. For instance, my Vitamin D level is 6.

 

[azzaman]

Well if you stop eating and don't go out into sunlight you will have those deficiencies

 

[kumquat]

Well if you stop eating and don't go out into sunlight you will have those deficiencies

And, yet, I have it despite getting plenty of sun and eating!